Mounjaro offending close "friends"

Out of the 5 people close to me who are on MJ, literally none of them have had anything other than mild nausea 😳

Mounjaro is not easy. You feel nauseous. You shit through the eye of needle, or you can't shit at all. You get crippling trapped wind, you vomit, and your gas tastes and smells like sulphur.

I haven't had any of this.

Mounjaro is not easy. You feel nauseous. You shit through the eye of needle, or you can't shit at all. You get crippling trapped wind, you vomit, and your gas tastes and smells like sulphur.

In the interests of balance, I haven’t had a single one of these side effects and nor have any of the friends I know that are on it. I’ve felt completely normal but the only difference is I have no appetite. So for me, it really has been an easy fix.

Why do you care to this extent about what other people do?

Ah… so you think being slim is a sign of hard work and virtue.

welcome to the world not being fair.

No. Mounjaro is not easy. You feel nauseous. You shit through the eye of needle, or you can't shit at all. You get crippling trapped wind, you vomit, and your gas tastes and smells like sulphur. You have appetite suppression, and the food noise in your brain is quiet. But you still have to fight against habits that are most likely lifelong. You have to find other things to fill your time and brain with, besides the one thing that has ruled your life for decades. And you have to feed everyone else you're responsible for, whilst not wanting to cook, or even see, the foods that you've built your life around.
You've got to forge new habits, around food and exercise, that go against everything you've ever done in your life, and you have to resist the overwhelming temptation to throw it all away and go back to how you were.
And the ONLY thing between you and a long life of failure, despair, self loathing and obsession, is a drug that you're paying a small fortune for, because for you, there is no other way. Even though you KNEW that you were killing yourself with food.
And you don't lose weight fast, at all. In the first month, you can lose considerable amounts of water weight, but over time, it balances out. The average weight loss is generally 1 to 2 lbs a week.

There are people on MJ threads losing at phenomenal rates but there's also a slow losers' thread and I am someone who loses a pound a week at best on the injections. Probably because years of yoyo dieting has fucked my body's ability to lose weight to the point where for me now it had actually become impossible. The injections have made it possible again, but it's still a laborious process.

I think people want to make it clear that the injections only work in conjunction with healthy eating, a calorie deficit and ideally exercise because of the misinformed belief that persists on here that people on injections eat junk food all day and magically lose weight. Yes, the jabs make it easier to make good choices over a sustained period of time, but they aren't what some people seem to imagine they are.

@RabbitsEatPancakes How exactly do you believe the jabs work?

You seem to think people just inject every week and then sit back and wait for the fat to melt away.

People still need to be in a calorie deficit, eat healthily and - preferably - exercise. The jabs help them feel fuller quicker, slow down digestion and help give headspace to work on themselves and learn to listen to their bodies. All whilst regulating insulin production. Sure you'll get some that are treating it like an expensive quick fix and carry on eating crap (they will learn the hard way when the side effects bite them in the arse), but most people use that headspace to learn new healthy habits that will stand them in good stead when they eventually come off the medication. Then they'll need to start "working hard" just like you to avoid piling weight back on.

You seem to think you are somehow being cheated. The jabs don't just permanently magic 5 stone away.

I didn't say it was it was a competition @Onceachunkymonkey and I absolutely would be pleased for my friend @SilenceInside I certainly wouldn't judge her or cut her off.

People can say all they want that people on the drugs still have to watch what they eat and count calories, but that's a lot easier to do when your appetite is suppressed so you don't feel as hungry all the time.

and it does result in faster weight loss..... the only people I know who have lost weight at the same rate as people on these threads quote are people who have starved themselves miserable.

I don't begrudge anyone using it, and I think it's a great thing if it's helping people's health and reducing pressure on the NHS.

but please don't delude yourselves that it's no easier than doing it without the drugs, because if both ways were equal then people wouldn't need the drugs would they?

If you think that Mounjaro = "slim with no work", you're clearly madder than you sound!

But if you could have been “happily fat for years”, why couldn’t you just be happily fat full stop? Your goal and a Mounjaro user’s goal is the same - to lose weight. If you wanted years of eating all the cakes and chips you wanted before losing weight, you could have had them. You’re deluding yourself if you think it’s a case of stuff yourself silly, have a couple of injections and then hey presto - you’re a size 10. It really doesn’t work like that.

Also, if you really enjoy food, the effects of Mounjaro could come as quite a shock! I’ve had meals that I’ve started out enjoying, but that have become chores halfway through. Of course it can be a positive thing once you get used to the portion control, but on the other hand, the occasional treat you might have on a standard weight loss plan might not be a treat anymore if you’re struggling to finish it.

There’s the cost to consider too. These “magic” injections are not free! I’ve just stepped up my dose, and the cost has gone up with it, to £190 for a month. It’s a lot of money, but I’m prepared to spend it because I’ve been battling weight loss for years. Are you really prepared to spend between £1000 - £1200 in six months for the privilege of an extra year’s worth of cakes? Because guess what - you don’t “just get a jab” as you put it. It’s jabs plural, and they ain’t cheap.

And what happens when you’ve finally reached your goal? You've still got to maintain it. Start eating the treats again in the original quantities, and the weight goes back on. And then you’ve got to find four-figure sums again for the magic jabs.

But yeah - Mounjaro is an easy cheat.

Are you confused?
You have created an agenda, ran with it, then accused me of doing the same.
Enjoy that, hun

I disagree, not sure about in this specific situation (probably a mixture of the two) but generally speaking it can often be the case that some people don’t want to lose their fat friend .

I don’t surround myself with those kind of “friends” now but when I was younger I had a (now former) friend who always had so much resistance to me losing weight and I’ve never used anything other than calorie counting, walking and the gym.

I was about 9.5 stone give or take a few pounds throughout my 20s and she was just under 8 stone. We were /are both 5ft 2.

It used to strike me as odd that she thought me losing a few pounds was me becoming “too thin” when she was significantly lighter than me and certainly wasn’t looking to increase her weight AFAIK. I was hardly the “fat friend” at 9.5 stone but I was still a lot bigger than her and it did seem she liked it that way.

I can think of other examples with friends of all sizes either discouraging me from losing weight or looking disappointed after seeing me following weight loss.

thank 😊

7 months first few months it drops off

best thing is the food noise has greatly quietened down and I feel in control it’s been absolutely great for me

Yeah, I dgaf if people get angry that I am prioritising my health by paying privately for a medication that has helped me in myriad ways. This isn't a zero sum game, what I choose to do about my weight has no impact on their weight. They aren't going to suddenly find those pounds I've lost! 😄

As much as the thread and mindset is interesting, does anyone on the drugs remotely give one shiny shit if anyone thinks it’s cheating, or is against the drugs, or any other negative feelings. I genuinely don’t. I mean I feel sorry for them, to an extent, as clearly some folks woth real hang ups about weight. But their views on the drugs,,meh, couldn’t care less.

Indeed. Watch the haters combust.

It won't stop people using the injections and seeing results.

Bully for you. You have no idea what it’s like for anyone else other than yourself. You get to self congratulate because you think you’re somehow better than others because you don’t have disordered eating. Poor you having to work hard to be thin. As I’ve said before you’re more than welcome to eat what you want gain loads of weight and then use the ‘easy option’ of paying £180 a month to take injections that make your burps taste of eggs and suppress your appetite to get thin again. Or just stay smug and keep feeling sorry for yourself that other people are losing weight

Sorry but these posts are bollocks! I'm sure anyone who was once a friend doesn't want someone they (presumably) care about to be the "fat friend" to make themselves feel better. It will be jealousy because she perceives that she has to work at it while OP gets the easy ride. So she's be happy for OP to be slim as long as it's HARD.

She’s not your friend, it’s as simple as that. She doesn’t want the best for you, she just wants you to stay overweight, probably so she can feel superior. She’s pigeon holed you as the “fat friend”.

I’d either distance myself or mention it loads every time I see her, just for shits and giggles. Probably the latter.

You don't enjoy food when you have disordered eating that puts you in a binge-restrict cycle. The amount of hard work a person puts in doesn't always equate to results. Some people can work and work and work at a particular thing and never achieve as good results as another person - I was always very academically gifted and while I worked at school/college/university/post-grad, I don't tell myself that my results were better than someone else's just because I worked harder than them. I have seen kids who work incredibly hard just to scrape a pass; they have other barriers to overcome. So looking at results alone won't tell you exactly how much more one person has tried than another.

I didn't have a good time becoming obese; I battled with disordered eating for more than three decades, from childhood to my forties. I suffered all kinds of shame and pain and sadness, I endured a lot of restriction and punishment along the way and all I had to show for it, along with my misery, was a body I could never find peace with and one that didn't fit the standards of what's considered acceptable.

Taking Mounjaro enables me to find that kind of peace. I still think about what to eat, how to eat, how much to eat and I work very hard at the gym to maintain and build muscle while I lose weight. But my suffering is reduced and I can finally work on the mental health aspect now I have some peace to do so effectively after a long time trying and failing.

You wouldn't have enjoyed eating more and gaining weight over the past few years - if you think you would, do it now! After all, the injections are available right? So go for it, put on weight knowing that you can lose it down the line! Why not? Because you don't actually want to, and you know it. Because you realise, deep down, that it isn’t a whole lot of fun being fat and you don't want to choose it.

It's jealousy. Your "friend" wants you to stay fat. I feel a lot of slightly overweight people who don't qualify for Mounjaro are also struggling to lose weight. I can understand why they woukd feel jealous

This is excellent!

I’d like to see on there ‘it will give you pancreatic cancer’ and ‘it will make all your hair fall out’ as I’ve had both said to me.

@FrangipaniBlue it's a shame that you wouldn't be able to be pleased for your hypothetical friend. And reassured that the option is now available to you should you find yourself obese again and finding it harder to lose weight the next time.

The injections don't help you lose weight faster, they just help you to lose weight in the same way that everyone loses weight - by eating less calories than you need for an extended period of time. They're there to help people who have not been able, unlike you, to stick to a reduced calorie diet for long enough to reach a healthy weight. You should be thrilled that you didn't need to spend your own money and risk side effects in order to lose the weight. Unlike your hypothetical friend.

But it’s not a compeition between you and other women, others being slim doesn’t detract from your achievements.