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Party - are people just rude now

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Meltedcheese2 · 10/12/2024 05:57

Hosted Xmas get together for 30 people on Saturday late afternoon and evening - 12 adults, rest kids.

Feeding everyone so ALOT of work and prep

2 different families didn't turn up (one last minute message, 1 didn't even message just said to a fellow attendee - can you let them know kids playing up so we aren't coming)

2 others turned up completely empty handed and the expected to be waited on hand and foot the entire time and then asked for leftovers to take home!

Is it just me or is this really rude. You've said yes, I've catered for you, cleaned house top to bottom spent an absolute fortune and people just flake last minute or turn up and take the mick.

I absolutely understand if it's illness or family emergency but it wasn't. Just say no and I won't cater for you.

It then emerged during the party that one of the groups hadn't come because a large number of them had all been out together the night before and were.partied out......We didn't ask you to come as we knew you'd be busy arranging this......

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DinkyDale · 16/12/2024 12:48

Yellowpens · 11/12/2024 18:13

It’s not you. Most definitely the height of flaky rudeness.

Last year I had 30 people confirmed for a Christmas party at home. Like you, I cleaned, decorated, catered with a lovely table of food and beverages for everyone’s tastes, organised a family quiz event and even created a lucky dip for guests to leave with.

On the event day, from 4pm onwards, texts started to arrive, “sorry, can’t come now”, “don’t think we can make it”, “we’re knackered after a busy day”, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.

In the end 7 people turned up. I was gutted, deeply disappointed and felt let down by people who had all confirmed attendance. I felt embarrassed for those who did turn up.

I’m never going to hold another Christmas party at home again. I’ve held them previously and there’s always a 10% no-show but this was humiliating and was a waste of food and money. People just don’t seem to think about the time, effort and cost that goes into creating these events.

if you’re somebody who knows they’re likely to flake at the last moment then don’t confirm your attendance. It’s better for a host to tailor an event to a smaller number of people from the beginning than a larger number of people where some will flake and create a wasted expense.

Humiliating...yes you've summed it up, exactly how I felt - and I'm very sorry you've experienced it too.

Op, it's shocking how someone tried that again. It's so crass. Genuinely never surprised at the front and entitlement of people.

MillyGoat · 15/12/2024 18:12

MillyGoat · 10/12/2024 06:31

Where on earth does neurodiversity come into this?? Are we all supposed to tiptoe around rude behaviour saying oh I mustn’t say anything just in case there’s a neurodiverse child in the mix…

Rude is rude. There’s never an excuse!

Requoting this to say I’ve now been thanked 28 times for this post… in case it make a difference to your view OP x

MummaBear2017 · 15/12/2024 11:00

It’s the night before thing that’s really grating on me. I have a couple of different friendship groups where it is really difficult to pin down a date for a get together, due to kids, work schedules, caring duties, etc etc. We end up with polls etc. Fairly sure it’s like this for most people these days. I’d imagine it will have been tricky for this lot to coordinate a date too so, I’m sorry to say, but I suspect even if it weren’t scheduled for the night before your event, you weren’t on the radar as an attendee.
These people are not your friends. They don’t deserve you and you definitely deserve far better than them.

CleverGreyDuck · 15/12/2024 06:49

Such a shame when you have gone to so much effort. Horrible people don’t waste your time on them in future

Meltedcheese2 · 15/12/2024 05:57

MrsWallers · 13/12/2024 14:49

Hi OP
I'm always baffled by things like this
We would love to be invited to events like your house party!
My younger son has ASD with an expressive language disorder with no real friends so we are quite socially isolated
We do socialise at things like arranged events to enure he has some social interactions (Scouts and Church) but not much else

Equally people are very rude I cooked for a joint 40th dinner party and our "friends" were all hung over from the night before from a massive mutual friends party we hadnt been invited too I literally wanted to turn round and leave with my Beetroot Wellington, salad and Roulade
We arent frineds anymore!

I'm a very straight forward person so dont really understand all the stres of going to someones house and being hosted and wined and dined, its just lovely and kind!

So sorry to hear this 😢 xx

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Bluebellsparklypant · 14/12/2024 09:08

I was really upset about the night before. I am a bit of a people pleaser and often have wake up moments like this - and then go back to being a people pleaser

OP i could have written this, you did a nice thing and i feel for you. They could have least of told you about the night out before. That’s poor of them not to tell you they couldn’t make it. Lesson learned here , meet out somewhere & don’t offer again

another1bitestheduck · 13/12/2024 16:02

CosyLemur · 13/12/2024 06:05

But they sent a message through someone they knew was going - which I'd most likely do. If you're hosting a party you're probably not going to be attached to your phone, so may not see a message if someone is verbally telling you then I know you've got the message.

you couldn't do both? Someone has made the effort to invite you to their home and buy food for you and your family, and you can't spend 30 seconds sending them a text?

It's not like it's 1912 and you're being charged per word.

Alternatively calling someone on the phone and actually speaking to them would "ensure" they got the message too. And allow you to apologise rather than just a third party telling the host you weren't coming.

another1bitestheduck · 13/12/2024 15:58

CosyLemur · 13/12/2024 06:06

Since when does an invite to a party require payment towards the costs?

since forever? It's basic etiquette to bring a contribution if someone is hosting you - wine, chocolates etc.

If I knew someone had catered for me and I didn't turn up, I would absolutely offer to refund them for the wasted money. A whole family not attending is quite a lot of extra food that OP wouldn't have bought otherwise, and food is hardly cheap nowadays. If the meal had been at a restaurant with a deposit per head I would also offer to repay the deposit if I dropped out last minute.

It adds insult to injury when as well as letting someone down last minute they are also at a financial loss because of your rudeness. Quite surprised I have to explain this to someone tbh.

MrsWallers · 13/12/2024 14:49

Hi OP
I'm always baffled by things like this
We would love to be invited to events like your house party!
My younger son has ASD with an expressive language disorder with no real friends so we are quite socially isolated
We do socialise at things like arranged events to enure he has some social interactions (Scouts and Church) but not much else

Equally people are very rude I cooked for a joint 40th dinner party and our "friends" were all hung over from the night before from a massive mutual friends party we hadnt been invited too I literally wanted to turn round and leave with my Beetroot Wellington, salad and Roulade
We arent frineds anymore!

I'm a very straight forward person so dont really understand all the stres of going to someones house and being hosted and wined and dined, its just lovely and kind!

Petrasings · 13/12/2024 12:25

There are two separate issues here. One is that some of the CFs in that group are exploitative piss takers and they will do this to everyone and anyone that will let them. They need jettisoning. It’s not a friendship but purely milked for their convenience only.
They are always, always the ones that also are MIA the minute anyone else needs support or help. Selfish and self absorbed.

There is the wider cultural issue though that as families we are all under so much pressure these days. So many demands. We have to pay such high bills, subsidise so much and also raise a family, care for pets, house, the elderly - that the effort and resources required can be overwhelming. As much as you might like a friend, you simply might not have the necessary energy required to do it all. That happens frequently in my circles and many of us have agreed to be open and honest when life is too much and we can’t make x it has been so good for the friendship. Now we agree to just do our best to come to things, and know we would each be there if we could be. That life isn’t always easy.

Username8b72 · 13/12/2024 11:34

Meltedcheese2 · 12/12/2024 07:03

I just wanted to say thanks so much for all the advice and kind words. Unbelievably (can't believe I'm typing this) had repeat of the same issue last night when one of the non-attenders messaged me about a night out she was going on (with some of the rest of the group!) asking if I could pick her child up! You will be pleased to know I said no but it has absolutely reinforced something for me 😥. Thanks again.

The way my jaw hit the floor reading this... the audacity! I am so sorry you've been treated in this way. Well done for saying no - first step to setting in a boundary that says you won't be walked over. Stick with the lovely ones who helped at your party.

We live in a very flakey world unfortunately - because we can message people instantly, we think we can drop out of things last minute.

We should hold ourselves and each other to a higher standard - you deserve friends that don't flake, appreciate the effort required for a party (perhaps even offer to help!), and invite you to fun things. And we should do the same for others in return, thats what it means to be a reliable and good friend.

I hope you'll feel empowered that you are worth better friendships. Set those boundaries! Enjoy the freedom of them!

Mary46 · 13/12/2024 11:33

Yes its time wasting. Maybe a neutral venue best. I do agree people are flaky now. I stopped making plans due to this.

KAT0779 · 13/12/2024 10:51

People are rude, and many just won't commit to plans anymore I've found. Or in your case they commit but just don't turn up. There have been many times we have invited people round and you can tell that they just won't commit in case a better offer comes up. We've had people say they are coming then apparently they are unwell on the day but get tagged in a facebook post of somewhere else they have been on that night. We do get invited to their houses so I don't think its because they don't like us ha.

Berthatydfil · 13/12/2024 08:17

Meltedcheese2 · 12/12/2024 07:03

I just wanted to say thanks so much for all the advice and kind words. Unbelievably (can't believe I'm typing this) had repeat of the same issue last night when one of the non-attenders messaged me about a night out she was going on (with some of the rest of the group!) asking if I could pick her child up! You will be pleased to know I said no but it has absolutely reinforced something for me 😥. Thanks again.

Good for you.
So you aren’t good enough friends to be invited out with them but you are good enough to ferry her child around??

Stop bothering with these people, they aren't your friends. Stop inviting them and stop doing them favours.

NewMrsF · 13/12/2024 07:53

Asking for left overs is wild, I wouldn’t even ask my mum for leftovers 😂
not inviting you in the night out because you’d be prepping for them the next day is awful

TheDearReader · 13/12/2024 07:14

Sound like absolute arseholes and I certainly wouldn’t bother again. Spend the money on a nice family day out. I am supposed to be going to a Christmas brunch on Sunday organised by one of the mums in our group but currently feeling very unwell so if I end up not being able to make it I’ll be sending sincere apologies along with money to cover the food she’d bought for us

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 13/12/2024 07:11

Happyinarcon · 10/12/2024 06:08

This is a difficult time of year. I can imagine people feeling they’d like to come along and then actually feeling exhausted on the day, or having a neurodiverse kid that needs coaxing to get out of the house. People are under a lot of pressure. I would feel fed up in your shoes, but I also know how hard it can be to get the family out the door.

What a load of crap.

CosyLemur · 13/12/2024 06:06

another1bitestheduck · 12/12/2024 16:41

well you're a lot MORE likely to "feel exhausted on the day" if you've been out til late the night before, to an event you didn't even have the decency to invite the host to!

Plus, as others have said, even if you "can't" (let's be honest in this scenario it's "could but can't be arsed to") make it, there's no excuse for not sending a sincere apology (and offering to contribute to costs).

OP maybe your NY resolution could be to find better friends! You sound lovely, I bet there would be many many people who would hugely appreciate your hosting

Since when does an invite to a party require payment towards the costs?

CosyLemur · 13/12/2024 06:05

Meltedcheese2 · 10/12/2024 06:11

Thanks - and I absolutely agree and get that. I really do - but what got me was not sending a message. I would have been absolutely fine with "x is not coping, we can't come, I am really sorry". But to not even message was what really bothered me. But I do get the wider point.

But they sent a message through someone they knew was going - which I'd most likely do. If you're hosting a party you're probably not going to be attached to your phone, so may not see a message if someone is verbally telling you then I know you've got the message.

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 16:48

Your friends are lucky to have such generous and lovely you op. I am sure your other friends were seething. I know I would be if this happened to a friend of mine. Don’t let the ingrates ruin future plans and fun events. You can just decide to give them the chop and replace them with better friends that appreciate your efforts.

another1bitestheduck · 12/12/2024 16:41

Happyinarcon · 10/12/2024 06:08

This is a difficult time of year. I can imagine people feeling they’d like to come along and then actually feeling exhausted on the day, or having a neurodiverse kid that needs coaxing to get out of the house. People are under a lot of pressure. I would feel fed up in your shoes, but I also know how hard it can be to get the family out the door.

well you're a lot MORE likely to "feel exhausted on the day" if you've been out til late the night before, to an event you didn't even have the decency to invite the host to!

Plus, as others have said, even if you "can't" (let's be honest in this scenario it's "could but can't be arsed to") make it, there's no excuse for not sending a sincere apology (and offering to contribute to costs).

OP maybe your NY resolution could be to find better friends! You sound lovely, I bet there would be many many people who would hugely appreciate your hosting

CannotWaitForSummervibes · 12/12/2024 16:10

Don’t invite them in the future. They are absolute piss takers, not friends.

IsawwhatIsaw · 12/12/2024 16:05

Well they sound horrible frankly.
You on the other hand sound a good friend.
So for the New Year, I’d be looking to spend time with decent people who aren’t users and know how to behave.

OnlyinBlackandWhite · 12/12/2024 13:08

It sounds like overall a good night was had by pretty much everyone, but I do agree passing on a message or not texting is rude, very rude.

You aren't a drop in centre!

That said, I do think people are flaky with parties and in life in general, there are too many events, too much to do at work and too many things for the kids at Christmas and it can feel overwhelming.

All you can do in future OP is either accept that a few won't attend and may be a bit crap, or do smaller events for the two families you know are brilliant and would let you know.

You won't be able to control these other people, sadly, rude or otherwise.

Petrasings · 12/12/2024 13:04

Oodydoody · 12/12/2024 10:15

OP, do you want your children growing up like you?
Feeling like you?
Trying too hard?
Making little of yourself?
Having people treat and think you are a mug?

Is that really the future that you want for your children?
Your legacy?

If not, start putting in the effort you put into to being a people pleaser, to changing this about yourself.

It can be done.
I couldn't bear for my children to live lives of feeling less than by being treated like a mug.

Fix yourself, model self respect, self esteem and firm boundaries so your children can learn them too.

The alternative is unthinkable IMO.

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People don’t ‘choose’ to be people pleasers. They are conditioned to be that way from childhood. I agree that this party can be a turning point for op to really do some work around people pleasing if that is what this is, but you can hardly blame op for other people’s behaviour.

The so called friends are deplorable and yes the onus is now on op to find her anger and stamp this out. Most of us enjoy having friends and celebrations. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem lies with the rancid CFs that think it’s okay to treat good people like dirt.

I hope op dumps them unceremoniously too, but your berating tone is a bit much tbh.