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Aibu to keep my daughter off school?

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Lilacbluewaters · 09/12/2024 22:25

I am so stressed and this is weighing heavy on my chest. My daughter who is nearly 6 has struggled ever since starting school both mentally and academically. During the spring/summer this year she completely shut down. Her tics were consuming her, she was just a shell of herself so I took the leap and de registered her from school as they were offering absolutely no support for her as they said she was fine in school. Since this time we have moved house (we were living in a very mouldy house and it was not doing any of us good).
we live in a new area now and my daughter was feeling a bit lonely as it is very hard to socialise home educated kids. So we had a look around the schools in the area and one of the best is full so she couldn’t get in there but she has been put on a waiting list.
so she started school 3 weeks ago and I thought things might be okay but she is breaking down again. She’s not eating and drinking enough, her tics are getting worse, she is going from extreme highs to lows. She’s will sit in silence and just burst into tears. She is really struggling and doesn’t quite understand herself how she is feeling. She finds it hard that not everyone wants to play with her but then she contradicts herself and says she likes to play alone. Her sleep is another story, now she’s back at school she must be getting only 7ish hours and she is exhausted. I don’t know how she can be learning anything in school because she is half asleep.
I have kept her off today and the school office were just so pressuring saying “I urge you to bring her in” but I said no that she is not coping and I don’t want to have to pull her out again. Am I in the wrong here?
what do I even do, where do I stand here? Can I keep her off school? I am worrying about her education but also how can she be learning in this state. I have read online the local authority have to provide an education when a child is out of school but how accessible is this? Anyone been through anything like this?

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Westierd · 09/12/2024 22:57

Do you think possibly adhd or autism?
As they can be associated with tics
Has she had or got friends?
Does she know how to make them
Generally have sleep issues?
Tantrums or crying?
Would she prefer to play with the boys?

Lilacbluewaters · 09/12/2024 22:56

quarterofanonion · 09/12/2024 22:36

Please consider posting this in the PANS PANDAS UK support group on Facebook too

What is PANS/PANDAS?

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Felixfox · 09/12/2024 22:53

Of course you are doing the right thing. Her physical and mental health are the most important things. I think you will need to keep pushing to access help and support though. Children can always stay back a year if necessary. Keep pushing and advocating for her! 👍

WanderfulTonight · 09/12/2024 22:52

Trust your own instincts...always! You know your child best.

My child had a breakdown in year 7 due to lack of support in primary school and denial of needs. Apparently, she was always 'fine' at school. I knew that she wasn't.

You will be gaslighted by the school.

I've since fought for an EHCP and my child is now in a specialist setting. Still a long road to recovery but getting there.

If I'd had my time again, I would say to home educate.

Join some national.home education Facebook groups for support.

For CAMHS etc, it's a case of she who shouts loudest. That said, if she's not in school, she'll probably be better.

Apply for DLA so you can spend that money on home edding. Contact your local council's money advice unit for assistance with applying. If your child has greater needs than am average 6 year old, you are likely to get it. No diagnosis required.

HPandthelastwish · 09/12/2024 22:51

You can't just keep her off without the necessary paperwork to back you up and have no consequences. If she is registered with a school then that's where she needs to be until you have the medical evidence to back up your decisions or do what lots of families do and deregister.

You need to get her an EHCP started you can do this yourself.

To go into school and have a face to face meeting with the SENCO to get assessments in progress and reasonable adjustments in place - this could be part-time time tables, quiet place at lunch to recharge.

You keep on at the Drs or go private by taking out a loan so she gets the assessments that she needs.

You keep home low demand and relaxing and prioritise her spending her energy on her school hours.

Silvertulips · 09/12/2024 22:51

Can you go to school in the mornings - main lessons then.

Can you volunteer to get a feel for school and what’s she like?

Could you get school involved more - I mean what do they see/think?

Work with the school not against, they have access to agencies that could help.

TheDowagerCountessofPembroke · 09/12/2024 22:48

The school get all sorts of shit from on high if their attendance is poor so they will try to get you to get her in.
As a teacher it is really hard because we so often get told that the child who doesn’t display any problems in school is having huge problems at home. I’m sure this is often the case but it’s hard to help with as we simply don’t see it.

Withdrawing and home educating is certainly an option worth considering.

Elisheva · 09/12/2024 22:48

I think you have to decide if she is going to go to school or be home educated and then throw all your resources behind that decision and stick with it, because chopping and changing is going to add to the anxiety.
She is not going to adjust to school unless she is there, but clearly she can’t cope with being there in the current form. So how can the school support? What does she need to be less anxious in school?
My dd is EBSA, currently she is on a customised timetable that she helped put together, based around an assessment of what aspects of school made her most/least anxious. Who can the school get to support them? Do they have a schools mental health team? An ELSA? Can she see an EP? What about a reduced timetable? Flexischooling?

MiniMaxi · 09/12/2024 22:47

I came on to flag PANS PANDAS too, I see someone else got there first! Assuming you know about this condition but just in case not…

Bubbleswithsqueak · 09/12/2024 22:47

Google 'not fine in school ' and Naomi Fisher. Many, many families in your position. It's a difficult road, but there is a lot of support available.

PeloMom · 09/12/2024 22:44

Do you think in the meantime she’ll be able to handle going for short days- sort of gradual entry- 1st week for 2 hrs a day, 2nd wk for 3 etc?

benefitstaxcredithelp · 09/12/2024 22:39

School won’t like it if you keep her off (attendance is more important to them than your child’s mental health 🙄) but they will have to deal with it. Personally if my 6 year old was as miserable as you say I’d be keeping them off too. Be prepared for a fight though as they don’t take kindly to it but it may well help speed up support being put in place. Be your child’s voice and advocate.

Your alternative is to pull her out completely and home educate her as before. If you need any advice on this I can help (ex primary teacher now home educator).

quarterofanonion · 09/12/2024 22:36

Please consider posting this in the PANS PANDAS UK support group on Facebook too

Lilacbluewaters · 09/12/2024 22:33

PeloMom · 09/12/2024 22:27

Have you spoken to her doctor? To the school? What support is available?

Yes, she has been referred to see a paediatrician but that is months waiting list. She was also referred to camhs but was rejected. I have a new doctors appointment for her this mOnth and I am asking for more support and another referral to camhs

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pinksquash13 · 09/12/2024 22:31

Ah so sorry. Sounds awful for your daughter. You definitely need to access support. Definitely speak to your GP and book a meeting with the school Senco (special needs coordinator). Keep communicating and pushing for help. I wouldn't remove her from school yet as they will just say we can't help her unless she's in.

PeloMom · 09/12/2024 22:27

Have you spoken to her doctor? To the school? What support is available?