Colleen

I don't think of Colleen as being a role model but she seems a nice person

I wouldn't put McGregor in the category of family man ...

It’s incredibly disturbing that you think ‘rapist’ and ‘family man’ are two entirely separate categories of human being.

Dee devlin put up with years of very legitimate cheating that ended with her looking stupid in court & on social media by standing by him on a rape charge....

He didn't go from family man to accused rapist the first time he played away

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I was impressed with her on I’m a celebrity…
I think she’s a good solid person. She's definitely got a lot of grit and determination.

Also impressed with her putting silly traitor girl VV in her place.

I find it interesting how we often see on mumsnet, a husband with a high flying career e.g. city lawyer or in finance, which pays mega money but leaves them available for very little practical parenting, unanimous recognition that he would not have been able to have that career without the wife sacrificing her career and keeping the home and family ticking over like clockwork.
However in this case, it's a bloke from a working class background who has been successful through a working class sport (which involves extensive travel, working away etc but pays incredibly well). Apparently she has nothing to be proud of, is only with him for the lifestyle etc.
From what I can see she makes sure that their 4 children have a high quality of life and learn good social skills and morals. They have a luxurious life, go to the best schools etc but she makes sure that they are not in a bubble, e.g. they have been to Butlins.

She does not seem materialistic. She talks about how her parents described themselves as 'having won the lottery'- metaphorically as in they were healthy, a loving family, had a secure home etc.

Her eldest goes to a highly selective academic school (one you will see mumsnetters cutting their arm off to get their kids into). Several of them play football at a high level through club academies. She clearly supports her parents and is involved in the kids schools etc. She is doing a cracking job of bringing up 4 young men in a bubble where they could easily be taught not to work so hard.

The idea that she stays for the lifestyle is ridiculous. They have been married for about 20 years and have 4 kids. If they divorced she would be awarded a fortune.

The double standard is blinding obvious.

I didn't realise that people who form a relationship with sportsmen are all from exactly th same background 😂

Or that they are they only people who put up with less than perfect relationships for the kids (it's not like there aren't multiple posts about similar issues in Mumsnet from women across a range of backgrounds on a daily basis).

If you can let me know what location/religion/culture/money all partners of sportsmen are from I will let you know if am also from that homogenous group of women, and whether I am offended in solidarity with them...

Have my first Mumsnet

I’m not clear what you’re saying here. Are you saying that Coleen Rooney not divorcing an unfaithful husband is the same as Dee Devlin standing by someone found guilty of a violent sexual assault and publicly attacking his victim and calling her a liar?

These girls who settled young with various sportsmen then build followings who claim they can't leave due to the multiple kids & there spouses who run around on them can't function without them as they've been their before the fame/success/money ect.

Id lump Connor McGregor Mrs in there aswell - if she wasnt with him she'd be with somebody else like him so "leaving" is not necessarily worth the hassle regardless of how their treated

If you feel offended by that due to self perceived similarities based on location/religion/culture/money then that's on you....

Also, she’s far from thick. “These girls” is very patronising.

She didn’t choose to do A levels but she got 10 o-levels and could have easily gone to university presumably?

In addition to newspaper and tv work, she also headed up a £3 million pound George at Asda advertising campaign, had a similar deal with Littlewoods and has published about four books. That’s lots more than a lot of people have achieved.

I suspect that people are disparaging her achievements out of snobbery.

Anyone who is raising four dc and is doing it well deserves a medal and is very admirable indeed in my book.

But before children she wrote a fashion column and did some tv work. Like many women, she is getting back to work now her youngest is five or six.

What has Coleen achieved, accomplished? What is it that we should be admiring?

Who are 'these girls' please?

I am in no doubt you are aspirational as your user name implies. We can't all like the same things #bedifferent #strongwomen #AIBU #probably #probably not #don'tcare 😉

@SherbetSweeties if her reason for going into the jungle was only to show ‘us’ she’s not as VV portrayed & all round good egg she didn’t need to. She came out of the ‘Wagatha’ debacle so well.

She said she’s wanted to do it for years.

Is it? Just that? Regardless of what sort of mother you might be? Regardless of the upbringing the children have or the people you help form?

Really there isn't more to great achievement than being a mother ?

Plenty of women are mothers who are terrible people (not CR ...)

I think Colleen is family orientated. They way she helped nurse her sister shows how strong she is. Her faith is strong and therefore she can forgive. Family is everything to her and good on her. As for those who say she hasn't got a single achievement to her name you are wrong. If you mean she hasn't a job title so therefore is nothing then shame on you, do you really think a career makes you a superior person ?

She'd be giving up half custody of the kids though ...

Which is worst then how much money she would get

I think being a mother to 4 children is a great achievement

Catholics get divorced. In fact, the Catholic Church won't start its annulment process until the parties to the marriage have a civil divorce.

Annulment is the adjudication by the Church's canon lawyers that a valid sacramental marriage never existed. Both parties are free to remarry in the Church if an annulment is granted.

The Church can forbid remarriage in the Church to one or both, too, depending on the reason(s) for the annulment - if one party is incontrovertibly gay, for instance. There are a few other reasons, all to do with an assessment that the person isn't capable of adhering to the marriage vows.

There are cultural reasons for a woman to decide not to divorce, perhaps to do with a religious viewpoint, or perhaps to do with culture of a family of origin, or perhaps personal ability to compartmentalise, who knows.

I agree. I really like her, I think she's most likely a wonderful and devoted mother and wife, and has lived her life for her children, so now they're all at school it's time for her to be a bit selfish and do something for her.
We will never know the whole truth about how Wayne behaved, or how he is towards her, but that's okay because it's between them, and who are we all to judge. I loved watching her on Fearne Cotton's Happy Place podcast

I work in PR and the media and all my journalist friends say he is still cheating left right and centre and has a number of NDA's out to stop stories being published (as does David Beckham.)

I like Colleen but my god she makes questionable choices.

I think your wrong RV should not have done what she did it was awful she didn't give a flying fig about putting Colleen through it and RV was the one that took it to court knowing that she was lying, don't dish it out of you can't take it back.

His cheating was NOT 20 years ago! It may have started 20 years ago but he’s been caught with his pants down a lot more recently than that, shitty bastard!