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Catasleep · 2024-12-09T21:18:52+00:00

Not going to name any specific women actors but I was just looking at one of my fave comedians whose just had a face full of fillers and she just didn't look great. She was about the same age as me (early 50s) and my friends and none of them have had anything done, (well maybe a little but it's not obvious if they have), but they all great and I'd be really shocked if any of them started to go down the route of such extreme fillers / botox etc. I'm not saying I look like I've fallen into the fountain of youth, far from it, but I look, for want of a better word, normal. I do get there is so much pressure on women in the public eye but after a certain stage of procedures it doesn't make anyone look any younger and just starts to make people look weird. I

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 22:06

@blueshoes
Don't get an upper bleph, please 🙏🏻
Also a Fassbender fan, tbh I was quite surprised he did it.

You can see the difference:

AIBU to think famous women don't look worse because they age, it's because of the surgery.

blueshoes · 11/12/2024 21:55

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 20:23

@blueshoes seen Fassbender in The Agency? I can see the work he's had done. It's good work but the upper bleph was overdone.
Sorry I'm a bit pernickety 😂

I am a fan of Fassy. So will put that on my list to scrutinise his eyes, amongst other things ...

blueshoes · 11/12/2024 21:54

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 20:16

@blueshoes yes meant upper bleph. Not sure if it was Brad or his surgeon decided, but it was a smart move to leave them or if they were touched, it's a subtle change.

I've always thought this about them. I find it's a difficult procedure to get right, from the results I mean. They end up looking startled or one eye is more open that the other. I've rarely seen a really great result. And because some individuals have very distinctive eye lid folds, ie. Renee Zellweger, when they have them removed, it doesn't look like them anymore.

oh shucks. I want an upper bleph.

User14March · 11/12/2024 20:26

@Beentheredonethat0 yes on lighting so true, close ups & HD etc can be brutal. Graham Norton’s guests always look fab good lighting here I think.

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 20:23

@blueshoes seen Fassbender in The Agency? I can see the work he's had done. It's good work but the upper bleph was overdone.
Sorry I'm a bit pernickety 😂

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 20:20

@blueshoes yep, Redford no doubt had a bad upper bleph 🤷‍♀️ a bit like buccal fat removal, not a lot you can do if it's not done well!

I've heard of patients unable to fully close their eyes again to sleep too.
So even the good upper blephs look off to me.
Uncanny Valley territory for me.

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 20:16

@blueshoes yes meant upper bleph. Not sure if it was Brad or his surgeon decided, but it was a smart move to leave them or if they were touched, it's a subtle change.

I've always thought this about them. I find it's a difficult procedure to get right, from the results I mean. They end up looking startled or one eye is more open that the other. I've rarely seen a really great result. And because some individuals have very distinctive eye lid folds, ie. Renee Zellweger, when they have them removed, it doesn't look like them anymore.

blueshoes · 11/12/2024 20:08

@Beentheredonethat0 interesting about how not doing a bleph (I assume you mean upper blepharoplasty) makes a facelift less obvious.

I did not think Michael Fassbender looked weird to me. The one whose eyes have been looking weird for a while is Robert Redford.

Beentheredonethat0 · 11/12/2024 19:57

Brad Pitt had great work done. His facelift didn't include bleph which makes it look more natural and as if nothing was done.

I was watching Michael Fassnender in The Agency the other night and you can tell he's had a bleph and it doesn't suit him at all. Looks weird.

Lighting is EVERYTHING when it comes to photography and film.
If you've been on a film set, you see how critical it is.

Ladyswhatlunch · 11/12/2024 17:47

Brad certainly didn’t look that ‘fresh’ at the formula 1 at the weekend, pictures are not a good barometer of what people really look like in the flesh.

User14March · 11/12/2024 16:39

@uptheculdesac lighting in the first picture I think making a big difference too? I am amazed by how much of a part that can play.

Gowlett · 11/12/2024 16:33

uptheculdesac, ha ha, I remember once reading that the most high-pressure job in the world is Brad Pitt’s Plastic Surgeon!

uptheculdesac · 11/12/2024 15:31

Gowlett · 10/12/2024 21:50

I can understand older women wanting to stop time, preserve their looks. It never looks good… But I can see why they want to do it.

But young women altering their perfectly good faces? Tulisa just looks terrible. And most of the reality TV girls, ruining their looks.

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I think they can look very good done well

uptheculdesac · 11/12/2024 15:21

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 07:41

LL has had a deep plane facelift. The optimum time to have a face lift, particularly a deep plane lift is in your mid-late 30s, and then once a decade thereafter. Kate Beckinsale is done similarly. Sarah Jessica Parker has bemoaned that she missed the window to have work done (such as a face lift) and now it would be too obvious she had (surgical) work done.

Face lifts, particularly deep plane ones work best on faces that haven't been tweaked with botox or filler.

I have never read that you should start in your 30s and then every decade.
I have heard pre 50 and then potentially one more

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 11/12/2024 11:42

Demi Moore looks great, simply because the work that she's had done looks incredible.

Ladyswhatlunch · 11/12/2024 11:32

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 07:41

LL has had a deep plane facelift. The optimum time to have a face lift, particularly a deep plane lift is in your mid-late 30s, and then once a decade thereafter. Kate Beckinsale is done similarly. Sarah Jessica Parker has bemoaned that she missed the window to have work done (such as a face lift) and now it would be too obvious she had (surgical) work done.

Face lifts, particularly deep plane ones work best on faces that haven't been tweaked with botox or filler.

What normal person would have any sort of face lift in their mid thirties which is the prime of life and when everything is still in place, that is insane and honestly a ridiculous suggestion, no doubt some online cosmetic surgeon is peddling this ridiculous notion.

ghostyslovesheets · 11/12/2024 11:25

NetDesMamans1 · 11/12/2024 09:04

HA! This has made me laugh. Hermit crab! White spiders!

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It’s one of my favourite comedy sketches - it’s so on point - Mrs Claus and She Means Well. Plus the Sally Fields point - glad it made you laugh as much as it does me

Delatron · 11/12/2024 09:31

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 09:13

It's because of the way botox can weaken the facial muscles, not just temporarily, but permanently. A deep plane face lift works with all layers of the face including muscle, hence the caution for those who have had botox. Apparently surgeons get the best results on virgin faces (much like colourists with virgin hair).

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Ah ok. Yes muscles can weaken and atrophy with Botox. Nicole Kidman’s doctor must have had a hard time!

I was watching the ballet last night and Darcy Bussell looks amazing. Whatever she has had done is good work.

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Catasleep · 11/12/2024 09:16

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 07:41

LL has had a deep plane facelift. The optimum time to have a face lift, particularly a deep plane lift is in your mid-late 30s, and then once a decade thereafter. Kate Beckinsale is done similarly. Sarah Jessica Parker has bemoaned that she missed the window to have work done (such as a face lift) and now it would be too obvious she had (surgical) work done.

Face lifts, particularly deep plane ones work best on faces that haven't been tweaked with botox or filler.

Sarah Jessica Parker looks great - one of the things I love about her is seeing a woman on screen looking amazing and simultaneously looking her age.

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chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 09:13

Delatron · 11/12/2024 09:00

I think they say no filler for facelifts. As it lasts a lot longer than people realise - like up to 20 years. And it migrates. Botox wears off so I can’t see why that would be an issue

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It's because of the way botox can weaken the facial muscles, not just temporarily, but permanently. A deep plane face lift works with all layers of the face including muscle, hence the caution for those who have had botox. Apparently surgeons get the best results on virgin faces (much like colourists with virgin hair).

Portakalkedi · 11/12/2024 09:07

Re Nicole Kidman, I watched a film with her and Zac Efron, and they were like a pair of shop dummies, such was the lack of human emotion on their waxy faces. Had to stop watching as it was so bad.

NetDesMamans1 · 11/12/2024 09:07

Ohnonotmeagain · 09/12/2024 21:40

I would just like to say Pamela Anderson.

bloody amazing woman. Looks amazing too, despite not conforming to Hollywood pressure.

clearly she felt the pressure as a young actress but happy for her that she can embrace her looks now.

Might be because she's vegan. I'm not saying all vegans look great, but I think she really does.

NetDesMamans1 · 11/12/2024 09:04

ghostyslovesheets · 09/12/2024 21:28

They have to stay believably fuckable unlike men

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpsI8mWKmg&list=PL1gI2eKjrAW--IJe7gFmk5dt75EGVLzJd&index=1&pp=iAQB

HA! This has made me laugh. Hermit crab! White spiders!

Delatron · 11/12/2024 09:00

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 11/12/2024 07:41

LL has had a deep plane facelift. The optimum time to have a face lift, particularly a deep plane lift is in your mid-late 30s, and then once a decade thereafter. Kate Beckinsale is done similarly. Sarah Jessica Parker has bemoaned that she missed the window to have work done (such as a face lift) and now it would be too obvious she had (surgical) work done.

Face lifts, particularly deep plane ones work best on faces that haven't been tweaked with botox or filler.

I think they say no filler for facelifts. As it lasts a lot longer than people realise - like up to 20 years. And it migrates. Botox wears off so I can’t see why that would be an issue

rewilded · 11/12/2024 08:01

I disagree about LL I think she has looks waxen and not at all natural. If this is an example of a deep plane facelift then I am not a fan.