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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
CatMummyOf3 · 09/12/2024 19:54

WWID?

  • Seek legal advice immediately, and start proceedings to take him for every penny you can.
  • Kick him out of your home as soon as possible, following the legal advice given.
  • Apply for sole custody of your DS and unborn child.
  • Kick him in the balls. Hard. Repeatedly.

You have no reason to feel ashamed, he's a total arsehole.

JollyZebra · 09/12/2024 19:46

He is a mother's boy who is feeding her lies to keep her happy. He needs to see a psychologist. What weird behaviour. Take screenshots of the messages to his mother. Keep records of how you are supporting your family financially while he is keeping his parents afloat. You don't want him to have a financial claim on you of your house if you divorce.
I'd give him an ultimatum - he tells them, in person, in front of you, that he's been lying about you and that it stops now. They do not see the grandchildren without you being present. If he doesn't agree or keep to it, I'd send him back to them permanently. You go not want to bring your children up in a family like that.

Lairymary · 09/12/2024 19:31

Ironic that she calls your son a Mummy's boy.......

Thelittlehouseonthehill · 09/12/2024 19:23

You frequently post about all your issues with him and his family but I don’t think you want advice just posting to get things off your chest.
You are always going to get the same answers, everyone can see he’s abusive so there’s nothing more anyone can say because you obviously can’t find it in yourself to get out of this sorry mess.
Perhaps some therapy will help you to say enough is enough and leave.

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Saschka · 09/12/2024 19:22

OP, when your children are old enough he will try to poison them against you too. “Mummy says you aren’t allowed to do this”, “I was going to take us all to Disneyland but mummy said no”, “Mummy said your picture was horrible, but don’t cry because Daddy loves it”.

Get out of there as soon as you can.

Pinkpanther70 · 09/12/2024 19:13

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

I would go there with your husband, and then say infront of your in-laws that there is something we need to discuss isn't there husband? ... then make him tell the truth...

WendyA22 · 09/12/2024 19:11

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/12/2024 12:25

I would really struggle to stay with him in those circumstances.

Can you go and stay with your family for a while?

He needs to understand that this is potentially relationship ending stuff. If he wants to save your marriage he's got a lot of work to do, starting with telling his mother that he lied about everything.

I can't see him doing any of that as he sounds a very weak man.

WendyA22 · 09/12/2024 19:08

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

The children and you will be better off without him. You have your home. Send him back to his mother as it sounds like he's not ready to leave her anyway.

Peopleinmyphone · 09/12/2024 18:51

If he loves you his instinct should be to protect you and defend you. I'm so sorry.

SpryCat · 09/12/2024 18:45

Your mil is not the problem it’s your DH who is the problem, she is believes his web of lies, what if he for instance started to tell mil you were hurting your child? Whenever your child had an accident he took pics and sent it to her and Ss got involved and mil showed them the texts as proof, his family could end up bringing your child up because he had made up you were a danger to child/ children. This could get serious so you need to change the locks when he is at work and leave bin bags of his outside, then text him and say you dumping him! He is a fantasist

Coolasfeck · 09/12/2024 18:34

OP don’t discuss anything with your DH. He’s a very experienced liar. He acts like he loves you but betrays you to the people he feels genuine loyalty to. Someone who can lie to you this easily can never be underestimated.

If you confront him, he will lie. Plus it will alert him to you knowing how he really feels and him and his family may start executing plans to fuck you over. How do you know they aren’t listing your ‘crimes’ on record so they have a custody case lined up. Remember how he said you didn’t dress the baby appropriately for the weather? Could this be to show the judge that you’re a neglectful parent?

Luckily you have a friend and DB who you can trust.

Divorce is your only option here.

MrsPositivity1 · 09/12/2024 18:34

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I'm actually dumbfounded, what a horrible thing for him to do.

Berthatydfil · 09/12/2024 18:29

I read your post about the car seat and thought he was awful then.
He is making up stories about you to feed into your mil’s fantasies about you as its easier than standing up for you to her.

Go see a solicitor asap as on paper (in reality) he could have very little in the way of assets as it sounds like you have kept the family afloat financially and also you own the house, so you need to make sure you are protected in any divorce.

pikkumyy77 · 09/12/2024 18:19

OP’s husband has a mouthful of promises and a life full of betrayal. His family and the family farm are his everything. If, for a minute here and there, he enjoys OP and the family she has given him it is still nit enough to wake him from his quasi religious servitude to family and farm. “How this makes her feel” doesn’t even register with him, or only sporadically while he is fave to face with OP. He will say whatever to get out of an uncomfortable talk then go right back to serving family and farm.

Cyclebabble · 09/12/2024 18:15

Hi OP. I am really sorry this must have been horrid to see. You are right that you are now in serious territory and you need to think carefully what you do next. I would leave it a couple of days and then have another discussion with DH. Ask him why an earth he thought it was good to do this, and does he understand how this has made you feel? What he has done is to build/reinforce their view of you by using lies and deceit. You would need to see massive change to continue this marriage and he needs to know that you are on the edge.

Vaxtable · 09/12/2024 18:05

You’ve posted before, and I am sure got some support from that, but this has now moved on. I would screen shot and save the comments, then look to telling him to leave and go live with mummy.

allthatfalafel · 09/12/2024 17:37

I mean personally I'd upload photos of the meals I cooked, chores I did, and walks I went on on a daily basis to social media, if not their Whatsapp group or texting to DH directly.

Just as a starting point, before I went apeshit.

pikkumyy77 · 09/12/2024 17:35

Separate without divorcing and sell the house and move. Then divorce at your leisure. You can gain nothing in the divorce since he owns nothing and will show zero income at the divorce or for CMS. You can even rent out the house in order to fund a move. Just leave as fast as you can.

Motnight · 09/12/2024 17:34

Another thread, Op, where it is obvious that this man and his family don't even like you.

I hope that this time it's enough to make you leave. You and your children deserve better.

Rowen32 · 09/12/2024 17:34

SummerSnowstorm · 09/12/2024 14:02

Does he have any history of psychosis/paranoia where he may believe these things are true?
I can't see any other reason? It's just obscure to make things up when there's no issues, I could understand if you weren't getting along and he was trying to vent but didn't know how to explain the actual issues, but it doesn't sound like that's the case?

I'd imagine it's a case of, his mother wants to give out about her so he goes along with it to stay on her good side, weak and pathetic

Endofyear · 09/12/2024 17:33

You've posted multiple times about your DH and his family. He's an arsehole and his family are arseholes. You need to leave.

teatoast8 · 09/12/2024 17:20

That would be the end for me

BringMeTea · 09/12/2024 17:17

Christ he sounds psychopathic! No coming back from this. You really really need to divorce this creepy no-good excuse for a husband. Good luck... 💐

FancyRedRobin · 09/12/2024 17:11

To add, this is all on him and his fault.
He broke up your family and effectively bullied you.
You are not an emotional punching bag, but a person deserving of respect.