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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 10/12/2024 23:31

You said that before you got together you owned your home mortgage free OP, does this mean that you've now mortgaged it, possibly to prop up his parent's farm?

Personally I would struggle to forgive him for badmouthing you to his mother, but if as you say, he's lied about you to make you sound bad, that is beyond forgiveness in my book. I would therefore be telling him that if you're so awful, and his parents so wonderful, then he can clear off back and live with them.

I would also be giving very serious consideration as to whether or not to continue with this pregnancy OP, as it doesn't sound like now is a good time to be bringing another child into the mix. Time to do some serious sole searching, I think!!

Shotokan101 · 10/12/2024 23:13

You have to confront him, and don't let him try to def,Oct the problem with his behaviour by trying to have a go at you about you "snooping" on his phone.

Sorry, but it looks like the in-laws are tge least of your problems here, though not to trivialise their unreasonable coercive behaviour....

Jim ❤️‍🩹

Horses7 · 10/12/2024 22:11

Unforgivable - you and your children are worth so much more than being part of this toxic relationship.

Bernardo1 · 10/12/2024 22:04

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 12:16

There is a big difference from him not sticking up for you when your MIL complains about you and badmouths you and him making up a load of absolutely toxic lies about you.

How can you even look at him after this? He wouldn't be able to work on the family farm for no money without your house and your wages. You are a great mother to your shared child and he pretends that you do nothing and that you are a bad and neglectful mother?

How can you stay with him after this? His behaviour is unforgivable.

This!

HoundsOfSmell · 10/12/2024 21:16

Ask why he has told so many lies. Tell him you’re blown away by the endless lies he has told his family and he has to leave. You’re meant to be a team, how can you ever trust him again when he tells lie after lie to his family, destroying your good standing and their relationship with you.

id also message his sister and mum and tell them you’d read his messages to them and have asked him to leave your home. You can’t bare to be in a relationship with someone who has lied to such a cronic degree. Non of what he says is true and you don’t undertake why he has said such damaging things

chipsaway · 10/12/2024 20:49

I’m sorry but this is a red flag for me. He is a narcissist.
this has been done to me but I didnt find out until he had had an afffair. Loving to me. Couldn’t do enough.

When it all came out in the open about the affair, his brother said I deserved it after all I had put him through. Apparently I wouldn’t let me see his friends, didn’t cook a meal. He was out every night of the week and a meal on the table.
I would challenge him in front of mother in law and tell him to get out!
Like you said if he loves you, he would be your best mate, your cheerleader not slagging you off.
If it was your friend at school doing this behind your back would you still want to be friends

ThistleTits · 10/12/2024 20:45

@Helpinghand1234 that's horrible and I'm incredibly sorry your husband has done this.
Your children will be better off cmg from a broken home, than a poison laden family. Are you there to provide children to continue the family farm?
Please do not equate the odd nice day with being a happy loving family, your husband is ensuring you don't not have one.
I think I would copy and save the messages. I would also fill the mil in on his lies and your truth. I could never continue the relationship with him. The mil I could forgive, she is basing her knowledge of you on his lies.
Good luck.

catlover123456789 · 10/12/2024 20:39

I've read some pretty shocking things here on mumsnet, but the absolute two-faced, lying shittery of this is staggering. I am so sorry that the person you were meant to be able to trust most in this world has done this to you, it's unforgivable.

Mrsgreen100 · 10/12/2024 20:38

Apologies for typo university fund, covert Narcissist!!!

Mrsgreen100 · 10/12/2024 20:37

I had an ex like this that, I couldn’t get my head around why his whole family seemed to loath me, even though I made huge efforts hosted huge Christmases et cetera et cetera. I finally woke up
dumped him (30 dam wasted years )
turned out he was being toxic all the time his family where arranging stuff months ahead etc giving him the heads up …
he never told me anything until the actual day
of course other plans in place etc
it made me look awful in their eyes etc
30 years on it turned out he had a whole separate life had been defrauding me and stealing from my business. He also stole his daughter‘s uniform and saving Side put aside for her and he’s about to marry the other woman. Meanwhile, he’s got another one on the side she doesn’t know about my daughter said to me mum you know his family hate you don’t you . they always have I found out that he has got Npd actually cover narcissist when I kicked him out his mother called me and said oh you’re so wicked he’s got no money. I’m having to buy his groceries. He has stolen £800,000 for me over 20 years.
It’s pointless saying anything because they would never believe me because he has been working away for years to make me look like a baddie there’s a lot of really fucked up boys out there. I blame their mother.

Codlingmoths · 10/12/2024 20:36

Julimia · 10/12/2024 15:20

It's MIL you need to speak to. She is the controlling factor here. Not saying that exempts him not at all but she is the one to be threatened with NC . He knows which way he should go and needs your support to be able to do it. It will always have been this way for him.

its him. He’s the one been lying repeatedly about everything his wife does for him and who she is, who’s been making up long lists of nasty things about her.

Grannyinnwaiting · 10/12/2024 20:33

Oh that's so horrible - I think this really is a problem- he needs to see someone if he's craving attention from his mother and getting this from lying - therapy and an open and honest conversation with MIL where he admits he's been lying and tried to address why is the only way out of this

wellington77 · 10/12/2024 20:28

Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

I reckon if he wants you back he needs to own his shit and fess up to his mum big time about all the lies he’s been telling with you there in the room. Anything less I’d be leaving! He sounds awful

Julietta05 · 10/12/2024 20:17

Have you formulated a plan? Maybe it would be worth consulting a solicitor for advice and take it from there?

LittleMousewithcloggson · 10/12/2024 20:11

I hope you protected your ownership of the house when you married. Otherwise he has a claim. Make sure you can prove he hasn’t contributed and get legal advice now.
Makes me wonder if it was all a con job and they wanted half your assets - which would explain why his mum is saying he can leave soon and why they were upset about you being pregnant again.
I would have packed his bags, taken them to his mums and told his mum why!

Emanresu52 · 10/12/2024 19:58

This is one of the most awful things I've read on MN. What a nasty lying two faced git.

UNFORGIVABLE!!!

I'd be going nuclear to his face and throwing him out soon after.

pollymere · 10/12/2024 19:56

I'd be asking him what he contributes... You don't really need him at all so he doesn't need to stick around if he feels you're not pulling your weight.

diddl · 10/12/2024 19:35

If he "confesses" they likely won't believe it or think Op has forced him into it.

I mean if my son was telling me all this I'd think he was a complete idiot for staying married!

Hope you get out soon Op & don't lose your house in the process!

pineapplesundae · 10/12/2024 19:09

Maybe invite the in-laws and over and insist hubby tells them the truth. If he's unwilling to confess, perhaps this is a deal breaker. He also needs to apologize in front of the family for the lies he's been telling.

Minc · 10/12/2024 18:56

How long have you and Oedipus been married?

TheTavern · 10/12/2024 18:29

So he’s telling his mother all these lies about you so that he gets sympathy and you look like a lazy good for nothing lump. Why? Why is he compelled to do that?
Either he apologises and agrees to go for help or you have a long hard think about whether you want to remain with him or not.

saffronspices · 10/12/2024 18:04

He's got some explaining to do! Maybe he wants to move back in with mummy - maybe you should give him a hand xx

Tessabelle74 · 10/12/2024 18:02

I'd be kicking him out of MY house and back to Mummy's which is where he clearly wants to be. Your children will pick up in this toxicity and will be joining in if you don't stop it. You're worth more than him, he's not the man you thought he was

LoveRicePudding · 10/12/2024 17:50

Poor you, he gaslighted you into relying on him. So sorry about that, genuinely.
He's an abuser and his dear mummy is an enabler.

pikkumyy77 · 10/12/2024 15:48

You own the house. Don’t leave. Make him leave. Don’t divorce unless it makes s advantageous to you.be strategic.