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Husband insulting me to MIL

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Helpinghand1234 · 09/12/2024 12:09

Honest opinions please?

I (40f) am married to DH (41m) I’ve always had a tricky but civil relationship with in-laws. They’re overbearing and emeshed (farming family so everyone but them is an outsider)

Things got trickier when we married, then much much trickier when I had DS 15months ago. I’ve basically felt like a surrogate. MIL complains DS is a mummy’s boy, I shouldn’t have breast fed as no one else could feed him, DS doesn’t want to know her when I’m there, she’s not good enough when I’m around etc. If I complain to DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is. He works long hours keeping their farm afloat and has very little time at home in the evenings. When he does come home, at some point mil or fil will phone to see what DH had for dinner etc and ask how DS is. All of his money goes on keeping the farm afloat and my wages pay all our bills (I owned the home mortgage free before we married) When I complained to DH they were intruding on the little family time we had in the evenings the calls became less but constant messages to his phone, but I thought we had created some kind of boundary.

Im now 15 weeks pregnant with DC2. MIL and SIL had a very cold reaction when we told them, and it’s been niggling at me. DH has a way of making me feel like I’m imagining things, but this time I just
couldn’t convince myself that I was imagining it.

I know I’m totally in the wrong here and accept that fully, but this morning around 5am I couldn’t sleep and things were just going around and around my head. DH hadn’t put his phone to charge on his bedside table and it was on the middle of the bed. I unlocked it and started reading messages between him and MIL. I now know why she dislikes me so much. DH has called me lazy, told her there no dinner ready for him when he gets home, he’s had to do all the laundry as Id been lazy all day, I’ve had takeaway but there’s nothing for him, I’m angry and unpleasant/or I’m in a reasonable mood that night, he’s had to clean up my mess as the house was a tip, that I took my son without a coat and hat in the cold weather until he stopped me. He’s told her DS is saying Gran a lot which I’m not pleased about (DS says 3 words and gran isn’t even one of them). Every single thing is a lie.
In all the time we’ve been married I can count on one hand the times he’s come home with no meal ready, and that will be because I’ve just arrived home myself or I’m ill etc. I do all of the laundry (he wouldn’t know how to turn washing machine on) do all the housework (I doubt he knows where the hoover is) and have never taken DS out without either a sunhat or cold weather hat. He says he’s had too cook dinner, put DS to bed and is now cleaning my mess as I’m in bed. (I go to bed the same time as DS as he sleeps for around 3 hours and it’s the longest stretch of sleep I get- he’s then awake every hour/two hours to feed). MIL’s responses are “isn’t she lazy, she must have been in bed all day, she needs a good shake, don’t worry DS will grow soon so you won’t have to stay etc.” When he told her my DM was here, he called her “the old woman” and she responded “is she there to brag about how much money she has?” (My parents are fairly wealthy but not in an ostentatious way- they own property but drive a 15 year old car) She has also repeatedly told DH I’m angry and awful to be around as they’re not good enough for me. Everything he’s told her is a lie, but it’s like he wants to play little boy victim to his mother.

What on earth do I do? I confronted DH this morning- his response was he needed to vent somewhere, which is fair enough, but he wasn’t venting, he was lying and speaking about me in a very hostile and unpleasant way and actively lying. We argued recently as he took DS to mil with no car seat (10 minute journey) and they both had a moan about how I was still stomping my feet about it and being my usual unpleasant self.

What’s most confusing is to my face he’s lovely, we have the odd argument here and there but overall I thought we were happy, he constantly tells me how much he loves me, how happy he is etc but all the while messaging his mother how awful I am. We had a lovely day yesterday buying a Xmas tree and decorating etc and now I feel like my family is destroyed.

Ive spoken to my best friend and DB this morning- they both advised time to cool off before speaking to him to find out why he’s done this. I already know what he’ll say- he can’t get away from her etc, and really it doesn’t matter- how can I ever trust him again? This is the person who is supposed to be my biggest cheerleader but is actively assassinating my character to his mother. I suppose I want some reassurance I’m not overreacting? Is it enough to call it quits? I don’t want DS and DC2 to come from a broken home and I feel so ashamed and embarrassed to be in this situation- all the signs were there that they have an unhealthy relationship but I honestly never thought he would speak about me with such contempt. And worst of all I really do love him- he’s my best friend and when we have time just the 3 of us it’s wonderful. I know he can never go NC with in-laws as without him they’d be destitute, but I’m heartbroken about the situation.

WWYD?

OP posts:
ToGiftOrNotToGift · 12/12/2024 10:35

user2848502016 · 12/12/2024 10:02

You're not overreacting, you need to leave.
Start making plans asap, can you go and stay with your parents?

It's HER house!!

HE should leave.

In any event, he seems to be happier at his mummy's...

ToGiftOrNotToGift · 12/12/2024 10:33

PullTheBricksDown · 12/12/2024 09:36

See a solicitor ASAP. Before you do anything else, arm yourself with the information about how to protect your house and income from this man and his family.

I agree.

@Helpinghand1234 - I sense that you are not yet ready to give up on your marriage, but at least seek advice on how to protect yourself financially. As it is, you may limp on with him for months or even years, but at some point you'll have enough and end the marriage.

Better to seek clarity about your legal position now. Maybe the risks of staying married will help you focus on your and your children's best interests.

Peopleinmyphone · 12/12/2024 10:24

Saying it was just venting is minimising the situation, I probably vent occasionally to my family but have never lied or complained to the extent that my family don't like my husband. You are not over reacting. It's just easier for strangers on the Internet to say LTB compared to the people who know you and your husband in real life.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 12/12/2024 10:23

This is a worse breach of trust than an affair, imo. And his total lack of contrition compounds the offence. What a spineless arsehole he is.

Firefly100 · 12/12/2024 10:21

Wow this is almost unbelievable. Another one here who does not say this lightly but I could not come back from this. Lying is not venting. It is lying. I can't believe he is actually trying to justify barefaced lying about you.
I wonder if you went to the police and stated he is physically abusing you and your children that would be OK as you were just 'venting'...

Sugargliderwombat · 12/12/2024 10:15

DecafDodger · 12/12/2024 10:08

Also interesting to note that the slagging doesn't go both ways. When you complain about MILs attitude, he is very happy to protect her (DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is)

Excellent point - he clearly has a side and it's not you OP. Cool off but I think really use that time to process that this probably isn't ever going to work.

Sugargliderwombat · 12/12/2024 10:14

Helpinghand1234 · 12/12/2024 09:26

Thank you to everyone who has posted, I’ve asked him to spend the last three nights away from here, it’s just too upsetting. He’s been coming over in the evenings to see DS and Ive left them to it and gone into another room and then he leaves when it’s DS bedtime. I assume he’s sleeping at his parents.

We’ve spoken (argued really) twice about it. He’s adamant he was just venting, he’s struggled with me being so distant and quiet since DS was born. I explained that I try to talk about an issue with him and he shuts me down with “Why are you looking for a fight, do you know what kind of day I’ve had etc” so that’s when I shut down.
I asked to see his phone as I wanted to know how long they’d been speaking about me like this. He’s deleted the entire message thread as well as with his sister, best friend and some other people. I dread to think what was being said that caused him to delete the messages, my mind is in overdrive. He has no real explanation for this. I feel this is a huge red flag?
My DB thinks he’s just doing it for mil’s approval and thinks I should confront them both together. I’m not sure I have the strength (pathetic I know) My best friend thinks we need to keep communicating and have some cooling off time before I do anything drastic. I haven’t spoken to my DM, we have a complicated relationship at best, although I think she would be supportive I feel she may escalate the situation which won’t help anyone.
I can’t see a way forward, even now I’ve cooled down and am trying to be reasonable, I can’t see how we can ever have any kind of trust, and I don’t think I’m overreacting.

Has he acknowledged that any of it was a lie, yet?

All of these lame excuses don't hold up when you point out that he was saying wasn't even true.

DecafDodger · 12/12/2024 10:08

Also interesting to note that the slagging doesn't go both ways. When you complain about MILs attitude, he is very happy to protect her (DH he says I’m stirring up trouble, imagining it or that’s just how she is)

TheFormidableMrsC · 12/12/2024 10:08

Jesus Christ, I couldn't stay with somebody like that. There is absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. Did he explain why he's lied outright about you or just waved a hand and said "venting". Venting is one thing, outright lying about your wife is quite another.

Personally, I'd be telling your MIL that everything he has said has been a lie and you will not be disrespected like that. Then I'd get a divorce.

DecafDodger · 12/12/2024 10:03

And yes clearly he has slagged you off and lied about you to several people. Your husband, the one that's supposed to be your support and cheerleader. Yes I get that many people moan about this and that, but this is not the same, those are barefaced lies.

user2848502016 · 12/12/2024 10:02

You're not overreacting, you need to leave.
Start making plans asap, can you go and stay with your parents?

UltraHorse · 12/12/2024 10:00

You can get through the way your man won't discuss things saying he's had a bad day at work he's not thinking about you you could meet someone who's ok with discussing things and cares how you feel

Imbusytodaysorry · 12/12/2024 09:58

Helpinghand1234 · 12/12/2024 09:26

Thank you to everyone who has posted, I’ve asked him to spend the last three nights away from here, it’s just too upsetting. He’s been coming over in the evenings to see DS and Ive left them to it and gone into another room and then he leaves when it’s DS bedtime. I assume he’s sleeping at his parents.

We’ve spoken (argued really) twice about it. He’s adamant he was just venting, he’s struggled with me being so distant and quiet since DS was born. I explained that I try to talk about an issue with him and he shuts me down with “Why are you looking for a fight, do you know what kind of day I’ve had etc” so that’s when I shut down.
I asked to see his phone as I wanted to know how long they’d been speaking about me like this. He’s deleted the entire message thread as well as with his sister, best friend and some other people. I dread to think what was being said that caused him to delete the messages, my mind is in overdrive. He has no real explanation for this. I feel this is a huge red flag?
My DB thinks he’s just doing it for mil’s approval and thinks I should confront them both together. I’m not sure I have the strength (pathetic I know) My best friend thinks we need to keep communicating and have some cooling off time before I do anything drastic. I haven’t spoken to my DM, we have a complicated relationship at best, although I think she would be supportive I feel she may escalate the situation which won’t help anyone.
I can’t see a way forward, even now I’ve cooled down and am trying to be reasonable, I can’t see how we can ever have any kind of trust, and I don’t think I’m overreacting.

Honestly i think you are being given poor advice.

Why do people around you want you to put up with being spoken about and disrespected to the person you sleep with . ????

He gaslights you i see from your update .
This man doesn’t have your back. .

He is horrible.

As I said previously you are sleeping with the enemy . Up to you i f you want to keep doing it but I wouldn’t .

You need to meet someone that has respect and you are a team .

His priority are his family not the family he had made . When boys become men that isn’t the case .

Your with a looser Op

AbbieLexie · 12/12/2024 09:58

The trust is gone and speaking from experience won't be found again. You are not a priority - just fodder to be used to gain brownie points with others he demonstrates are more important.
Take the advice others have given and get your ducks in a row. Imperative you seek legal advice asap - this is about protecting your children's future and yours.

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:57

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:37

What your brother doesn't seem to understand is that confronting them will make absolutely no difference. They're not suddenly going to become reasonable, adjusted people.

Really pisses me off when the autocorrect/predictive text/whatever it is, changes what I write!!

I specifically wrote well-adjusted, because that's specifically what I wanted to say! 😡😡

Anyway. Counselling is pointless. Really, stop wasting your time and effort. The only thing you can change is you and what you do in this situation, to change things for yourself and your children.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/12/2024 09:53

It doesn't sound as though there was even a hint of an apology from your DH. As usual, he's put it all back on you for being 'distant' which apparently gives him carte blanche to make up horrible lies about you to his equally horrible mother.

As other posters have said, there is no coming back from this and you need to consult a solicitor as soon as possible about divorcing him and proctecting your assets.

Don't confront him and his mother as suggested by your brother. It will serve no purpose and they will put up a united front against you. Their family dynamic is so fucked up that it would be impossible to have a conversation which ends in them taking any responsibility for what they have said and done to you.

DecafDodger · 12/12/2024 09:49

You can vent about something that actually happened, not something you have made up!

BodyKeepingScore · 12/12/2024 09:45

Teddybear23 · 11/12/2024 18:05

Definitely marriage counselling at the least for him to explain/understand why he’s lying to his mum. After that he’d have to come clean to his mum IN FRONT OF YOU that he’d been lying. If this doesn’t work I’m sorry but if I were you I’d leave him (or kick him out back to mummy). It’s appalling behaviour.

What would counselling achieve here? He’s lied, consistently, therapy isn’t a magic bullet that will suddenly make him truthful in the therapy room.

I wouldn’t waste money or time going to therapy with someone who is as deceitful as her husband has been.

CraftyYankee · 12/12/2024 09:43

So he wasn't just slagging you off to his mother who he clearly has an enmeshed relationship with, but also to other people so the truth wouldn't get back to her? That's all kinds of messed up. I couldn't see a way back from that.

See a solicitor about protecting your assets, I hope you don't wind up supporting him 🤬

catlover123456789 · 12/12/2024 09:43

I was going to ask about other threads, not just his mum. It's a huge red flag that he has deleted those threads. I think you can safely assume that there were things in those threads that he didn't want you to see. If it was me, I think I would have to end the relationship, and I don't say that lightly.

Porcuporpoise · 12/12/2024 09:38

You're not overreacting @Helpinghand1234 🙁On Mumsnet I often roll my eyes when people to LTB over every minor disagreement but what your husband did to you - to me that would be really unforgivable.

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 12/12/2024 09:37

What your brother doesn't seem to understand is that confronting them will make absolutely no difference. They're not suddenly going to become reasonable, adjusted people.

Oodydoody · 12/12/2024 09:37

He has irrevocably broken your trust by telling bare faced lies to multiple people about you.
There is no way forward from that.
I'm so sorry.

PullTheBricksDown · 12/12/2024 09:36

See a solicitor ASAP. Before you do anything else, arm yourself with the information about how to protect your house and income from this man and his family.

ThisZanyPinkSquid · 12/12/2024 09:34

You are definitely not overreacting! Venting is fine but they were bare faced lies!!

Turn it back on him and ask when x, y & z happened for him to vent to everyone like that?? Then say how would you feel if I run to DM or best friend lying about you? Saying x, y & z.

Personally it sounds like he’s gaslighting you at the moment 🤷🏼‍♀️