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Buttonsmum67 · 09/12/2024 10:29

I will preface this by saying my mother is queen Narcissist.

Last year I did a DNA Ancestry test with my kids for a fun present. My youngest's came back with a random name as his maternal grandfather- then my eldest's came back with the same thing. Then mine with this random man as my father.

I with the help of friends managed to send my mother a message asking for an explanation. She said it must be wrong etc and told me to stop being ridiculous. At this point I did another one and it came back with the same match as before with this random man.

I messaged again and said I wanted answers now. She turned up at my house at 5am in floods of tears saying she had been attacked by a man and she had thought she had got rid of me with the morning after pill and then two months later found out she was pregnant again and had thought it was a miracle to come from something so horrible (she thought I was my dad's, as in my dad who bought me up). She asked me to promise that I would never say anything to anyone as it would ruin her marriage.

When we matched with this other gentlemen he messaged me immediately asking wtf was going on. I told him my mothers name trying to gauge any panic from him and he wrote back a long message saying basically omg we had a couple of months long affair when I was working with her- he mentioned my dads name and that they used to meet while my dad was working nights etc and she called it all off when my dad asked her to marry him. He has asked to meet but I have put that on the back burner for now as I don't know which story is true. And before anyone judges me about saying I don't think my mother would lie about being attacked, she has lied about having serious illness before to get out of arguments she created.

She then began what I can only describe as a hate campaign against me- making up stories to my siblings and dad about how she had had to borrow me money etc and I wasn't paying it back- none of which were true.

Since last year we now never speak. I have messaged and called my dad and even turned up at their house to speak to him and he has said his loyalties lie with my mother and I have greatly upset her with my behaviour. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING! Every time I call his phone she picks up and says you won't be saying anything will you.

When I say she was abusive growing up I am in therapy as still in my 30s I struggle to stand up to her.

This morning my aunts messaged me saying about my brothers weddings (He is her golden child and doesn't make any effort to contact me or my sister back). I haven't been invited. I am seething.

I feel like drinking a bottle of wine and writing to every member of my family what has happened to stop this bull, but I also don't want to ruin my dads life. He is so under the thumb with her I don't think he'd kick off anyway.

But here I am sitting a year later left on my own thinking I'm a product of rape and now being completely cut out of the family. My mother says she was attacked, my biological dad said they were having a fully consensual affair, I haven't told him what my mum said.

But I feel like I am keeping a massive secret for the benefit of everyone else and now I am the one being ostracised. I am so upset I am being cut out.

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Thedandyanddude · 10/12/2024 16:06

Tbry24 · 09/12/2024 10:53

That would imply your dad knew at the time.

No, it would imply they weren't married

Thedandyanddude · 10/12/2024 16:06

Tbry24 · 09/12/2024 10:53

That would imply your dad knew at the time.

No, it would imply they weren't married

SoMuchBadAdvice · 10/12/2024 15:59

CactusSammy · 10/12/2024 14:48

Just a thought @Buttonsmum67, but it seems a bit odd to me that a man who has previously raped a woman (or women) would voluntarily take a dna test and make those results available online for any children to be matched with.

Not saying your mum is lying, but that makes no sense to me.

True.

BadgersGalore · 10/12/2024 15:47

Nerdlings · 10/12/2024 15:02

I'd be wary about trusting these novelty DNA testing companies 100%.

Mine did not link my sister to our mother at all. I knew she was my sister as there's a large age gap and I was there when my mother gave birth! We did a test with another company and it did then link the two of them.

My point being, there's a good chance your test isn't correct

Edited

What, so the test incorrectly identified OP's bio father as someone who coincidentally knew, worked with and had a relationship with OP's mother?

Findinganewme · 10/12/2024 15:44

I’m so sorry that you’re going through this.

your mothers panic and general behaviour, suggests that there is something else to this story. Your biological father’s take sounds plausible, but that doesn’t mean that either is correct.

your mother is effectively throwing you under the bus, to protect her lies. That’s unfair and puts your wellbeing under a very compromised situation.

  1. if she was attacked, would it really ruin her marriage? Would your dad have sympathy for his wife, the presumed victim?

  2. if she was attacked, did she seek support, make a police complaint, share with her family. If she was violated, she should not have to keep this secret as she’s not to blame.

  3. I would tell your mum, that unless she tells your dad, you will. Give her some time. Then tell your dad.

You can’t lose everything because of your mums lies.

Gmary22 · 10/12/2024 15:38

You don't want to hurt your Dad's feelings but he doesnt have any issue with hurting your feelings and being complicite in ostracising you from your family. My mother is a little bit like this, but to a far less extent. She plays me off against my brother (who is her golden child) and my Dad, and I get blamed for being difficult when I stand up to her.I am 100% the scape goat and it sounds like you are too. I dont know if she even knows shes doing it, it's just innatley in her nature. Anyway, I strongly suspect you mother is lying and she had an affair. I would tell your Dad, but he probably won't believe you even if you have evidence.

Flossflower · 10/12/2024 15:31

Pussycat22 · 10/12/2024 08:31

DNA testing? For fun? That's the most stupid and one of the most personally dangerous things I've ever heard in my life. Now look at the hornets nest you've created for yourself.

No it is not. My husband and I have both taken DNA tests. In my husband’s case he has found and made contact with a whole load of family through the ancestry website.
Not only do you get details of people you might be related to, it gives you a breakdown of your ethnicity. Even if we have lived in the UK for generations, our descendants very often came from elsewhere.
It really is important to know who your biological parents and grandparents are. There could be inherited diseases that you or your future children need to be screened for.

Xenia · 10/12/2024 15:21

Nerd, although I was linked with the 2 of my children who separately had done a test and also to distant cousins on my mother's and father's side who are in my family tree so I was amazed by the accuracy actually.

clingycassandra, I hadn't know that - that is you have a child out of wedlock, declare the father on the birth cert, you then have to re-register the birth if you and the father marry. Given half of babies are born with unmarried parents these days in the UK and that quite a few then later DO marry for IHT and other reasons I think there should be more publicity for that. · https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/31/section/9

Legitimacy Act 1976

An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to legitimacy.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/31/section/9

WhoIsBetty · 10/12/2024 15:20

SpryCat · 10/12/2024 14:16

Narcissists don’t like being unmasked and will do anything to stop it happening. Your mum denied it and tried to get you to drop it but your results were on your kids dna matches too and you didn’t drop it. She then felt very threatened and she shed crocodile tears and whipped out her rape story but you still wouldn’t let it lie. Narcissists don’t like people going against their wishes so she starts a smear campaign against you claiming you have done some evil and devastating against her and she is so heartbroken she has washed her hands off you. People seeing her tears and distress will be so angry on her behalf they turn against you also and if you ever try to clear your name they won’t believe you.
classic narcissistic behaviour

Yes. Indeed. The mother won’t have even considered the OP’s emotions in this at all. Awful woman.

User1990C · 10/12/2024 15:19

Loving the amount of people defending the mother for sleeping around and getting pregnant then lying to her family for decades.

Reveal all OP, it's the only way quite frankly.

KnigCnut · 10/12/2024 15:17

I knew from age 14 that I wanted to join my profession. I spent the next 4 years doing work placements and voluntary work in my school holidays. I was definitely working towards my career.
And none of this detail has any bearing on the overarching issue here other than kicking the OP.

WhoIsBetty · 10/12/2024 15:16

wombat15 · 10/12/2024 13:25

Given that OP was only born in in 1987/88 I very much doubt her DC are much older than 17. It's not just the age anyway. It is the whole part about him going on mental health training courses with work placements- it is not how people become psychiatrists.

Edited

The OP might have fudged some of it to be less obvious. If you don’t believe it then just leave the thread.

JLou08 · 10/12/2024 15:12

Let it out. Why are you trying to protect your dad? He has turned his back on you and you say you were abused as a child by your mum, he must have known that was going on. Did he do anything to try and protect you growing up?

HollyKnight · 10/12/2024 15:11

Or gift everyone in your family Ancestry DNA kits. Let them find out for themselves that they aren't related to you in the way they think they are.

Cococobanaofthemanor · 10/12/2024 15:11

Everyone needs to jump off their high horses, getting on OP's back, nit picking every word, get over yourselves! OP clearly your mother is extremely selfish yet not self aware (like a lot of the other posters on here) you're not gaining anything having her or who you have been told is your father in your life so maybe speak to any of the family members you want to hold onto and let the rest swivel, life is too short. Also, getting an Ancestry DNA kit for your children really isn't that weird, children study family trees all the time whether that is in primary school or secondary! It's interesting!

BelgianBiscuit · 10/12/2024 15:11

To the armchair detective - I was born in '88 and my oldest DD is 19. ( She is at uni and she had placements in her chosen field of study before applying to uni)

ThisRedLion · 10/12/2024 15:08

Do it have that bottle of wine have 2 prints each of both dna kits with letter hand given to every single member of yiur family the ones that matter dad brothers sisters and then leave it at that you have no way at all created any of this and your mother sounds like a piece of work I know how you feel because I'm mid 40s and still having therapy over my childhood..... take charge and feel no shame because you've done nothing wrong do not sit on a back burner if the nan wants to see you then see him he can't be lying it's all proof in black n white xx

CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 15:06

wombat15 · 10/12/2024 13:25

Given that OP was only born in in 1987/88 I very much doubt her DC are much older than 17. It's not just the age anyway. It is the whole part about him going on mental health training courses with work placements- it is not how people become psychiatrists.

Edited

No, but it’s how you get a place on very competitive medical school courses (28000 applications for 7000 places) - work experience is the only way to stand out against all the other students who are predicted 4 A* and have 10-12 grade 9s at GCSE.

diddl · 10/12/2024 15:06

CactusSammy · 10/12/2024 14:48

Just a thought @Buttonsmum67, but it seems a bit odd to me that a man who has previously raped a woman (or women) would voluntarily take a dna test and make those results available online for any children to be matched with.

Not saying your mum is lying, but that makes no sense to me.

Likewise I also think it's odd that Op's mum went straight to assault/rape rather than saying she genuinely thought that Op was her dad's.

It's hard to think that someone would lie about something so serious.

Of course it obscures(?) the fact that she was obviously seeing someone else!

CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 15:02

wombat15 · 10/12/2024 11:11

Disagree it is just semantics. Claiming that her son is "training to be a psychiatrist" and "is undertaking a separate mental health course with work placements to do so" is a long way from saying that he is at school and planning on applying to med school next year in order to become a psychiatrist.

Well, when MN requires that all posts must be proof read and edited for grammar and accuracy, you can apply for the post. Do you correct people IRL when they make a mistake in their language too? You must be fun at parties.

Nerdlings · 10/12/2024 15:02

I'd be wary about trusting these novelty DNA testing companies 100%.

Mine did not link my sister to our mother at all. I knew she was my sister as there's a large age gap and I was there when my mother gave birth! We did a test with another company and it did then link the two of them.

My point being, there's a good chance your test isn't correct

CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 15:00

oakleaffy · 10/12/2024 10:54

Ancestry DNA isn't genetic testing for medical conditions.
It's more of a gimmick.

Anyone wanting to know about heritable disease before having children wouldn't buy a gimmicky test, they'd get proper genetic counselling.

Certain serious conditions are recessive anyway, so not marrying a cousin or close blood relative also helps avoid inherited conditions.

I know this - but knowing your ancestry is still a useful indicator before choosing to take the next step, isn’t it? It’s information about ourselves and everyone has a right to know what their ethnicity is and who their bio/genetic forebears are (eg… who our cousins are or who are not. We don’t require genetic blood testing before marriage in the UK, but in the US I think you are still require to have a blood test precisely to check you are not related).

CactusSammy · 10/12/2024 14:48

Just a thought @Buttonsmum67, but it seems a bit odd to me that a man who has previously raped a woman (or women) would voluntarily take a dna test and make those results available online for any children to be matched with.

Not saying your mum is lying, but that makes no sense to me.

Taytayslayslay · 10/12/2024 14:44

I had to make an account just to leave a comment on here lol, please tell your family. Do not let her push you out of the family when it is not your fault.

ridiculousemail · 10/12/2024 14:43

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