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To believe that all drugs should be legalised?

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TheWaryOchreRobin · 08/12/2024 18:13

If alcohol and cigarettes are legal, why not regulate and tax everything else instead of letting criminal gangs profit?

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Wisterical · 08/12/2024 19:21

So when your teenager reaches the legal age to buy alcohol you'd be happy for them to choose to legally buy heroin/cocaine/meth instead? You can't see any problem there?

The thing with drugs is people too often assume it'll only fuck up other people, not our own children.

ExtraOnions · 08/12/2024 19:20

Mr brother was a Heroin Addict .. I would never advocate for legalisation. I do understand why people say it, it would partially remove the criminality, but the impact on health services would be enormous. It’s wrecks your body, for the rest of you life.

Starlightstarbright4 · 08/12/2024 19:19

I would also add my teen can buy vapes /booze( not 18) in so many shops .. if he could buy drugs as well it doesn’t bear thinking of ..

SunQueen24 · 08/12/2024 19:17

Barbadossunset · 08/12/2024 18:24

How would it work? Would one be able to go into a shop and buy whatever one wanted - heroin, cocaine, marujiana - like one can buy alcohol and fags?

Exactly.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/12/2024 19:17

Dutch1e · 08/12/2024 19:11

I'm not sure the US is too interested in the social safety nets that have to accompany this kind of widespread reform.

And I’m glad we haven’t. Call me crazy but I’d like safety nets to be for those who aren’t hellbent on destroying everything around them.

RoundandSad · 08/12/2024 19:14

Dutch1e · 08/12/2024 19:11

I'm not sure the US is too interested in the social safety nets that have to accompany this kind of widespread reform.

If we need more of a safety net then why would it be helpful to do it? what is the benefit of doing it? I used to think maybe police are wasting time on it but now I think that legalising it would cause more problems

Hotflushesandchilblains · 08/12/2024 19:11

Duc · 08/12/2024 19:07

You could argue that a glass of red wine had some health benefits, crack cocaine not so much…

Well the latest research is that no amount of alcohol is beneficial or safe - the only way to drink 'safely' is not at all. You could also argue tobacco has no benefits. But it is still legal and people choose to smoke. Fewer all the time, hopefully.

Dutch1e · 08/12/2024 19:11

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/12/2024 19:10

It’s working great for San Francisco… I mean who wouldn’t want to visit or live in a city with shit in the streets and junkies shooting up on the street corners.

I'm not sure the US is too interested in the social safety nets that have to accompany this kind of widespread reform.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 08/12/2024 19:10

It’s working great for San Francisco… I mean who wouldn’t want to visit or live in a city with shit in the streets and junkies shooting up on the street corners.

Dutch1e · 08/12/2024 19:09

Eyesopenwideawake · 08/12/2024 18:30

Not legalised, but all drug possession for personal use was decriminalised in Portugal in 2001.

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight

Years ago I read an interview with the then-Commissioner of Police in Portugal about his tenure during drug decriminalisation.

He was so straight-forward and humble, saying "all the things I was afraid of happening, never happened. I was wrong."

RoundandSad · 08/12/2024 19:08

I used to wonder this

now I think the big problem would be tons of addicts, still stealing to pay for it.

and a lot of people would fall out of the workforce

like descriptions of San Francisco at the moment which are scary

MyPithyPoster · 08/12/2024 19:08

Apparently, San Francisco is like something out of a zombie apocalypse these days. People literally just lying off their faces in the streets, defecating all over the place.

Barbadossunset · 08/12/2024 19:07

BMW6 · Today 18:42
It hasn't worked well in Amsterdam

Nor in various cities in USA.

Catapultaway · 08/12/2024 19:07

OldJohn · 08/12/2024 18:37

I studied drugs and alcohol as a post grad student and tobacco is the most dangerous with virtually zero positive benefits.

After graduating I worked helping people reduce or stop their use of illegal drugs, alcohol or tobacco

🤣 that makes me worry for the state of education in this country

Duc · 08/12/2024 19:07

Hotflushesandchilblains · 08/12/2024 19:03

Thoroughly agree - I work in MH and have long thought that this should be the case. Legalization would give a chance to ensure the product is pure and people are getting what they expect, would stamp out a lot of criminal activity, could bring better standard of living to subsistence farmers and open up a new tax revenue source. Nastiest detox around? alcohol.

You could argue that a glass of red wine had some health benefits, crack cocaine not so much…

Hotflushesandchilblains · 08/12/2024 19:03

Thoroughly agree - I work in MH and have long thought that this should be the case. Legalization would give a chance to ensure the product is pure and people are getting what they expect, would stamp out a lot of criminal activity, could bring better standard of living to subsistence farmers and open up a new tax revenue source. Nastiest detox around? alcohol.

Onesailwait · 08/12/2024 19:00

Yep, decriminalization is working out great in BC!. My kids can walk downtown and see folks smoking meth & crack In full view of the police.

Duc · 08/12/2024 18:51

Nah, folk can’t even make the right choices with things that are legal. No point in adding more shit that isn’t good for you, in to the mix otherwise we’ll all end up paying for it through our taxes.

Keeping it illegal will at least stop some people starting and getting hooked.

missmollygreen · 08/12/2024 18:51

whereaw · 08/12/2024 18:34

Agree. Alcohol is arguably the most dangerous drug and that's legal.

Alot of posters on here dont know any meth or heroin addicts clearly

SweetBobby · 08/12/2024 18:48

Why stop there? Let's legalise murder and theft too.

Driedonion · 08/12/2024 18:46

I used to think this but having visited the USA since some states have legalised cannabis I’m not so sure.
There seemed to be a lot more stoned people wandering the streets and on public transport.
Maybe it was all still going on beforehand but behind closed doors 🤷‍♀️

BMW6 · 08/12/2024 18:42

It hasn't worked well in Amsterdam.

Tess150 · 08/12/2024 18:41

Terrible idea. As soon as you go soft on drugs you become a hub for drug gangs to smuggle drugs through to other countries where it isn't legal.

Mittens67 · 08/12/2024 18:40

I would argue the other way if I could. Criminalise fags and booze. Never happen of course but I think we need fewer substances which damage health and make many people behave dangerously not more.

FiveTreeHill · 08/12/2024 18:37

I'm not sure about the ethics of selling crystal meth or heroin tbh.

And what about medications? Should we legalise otc sale of say diazepam, zopiclone, morphine? We have controls for a reason

You could make a convincing argument for legalisation of weed but I don't think we can just blindly legalise all drugs