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Wondering what others would do in this situation

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farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:46

Person A told person B that their DC was poorly on a Thursday, their DC was off school for two days. There was a weekend away planned with a club.
Person B assumed person A's DC would not be attending as they hadn't been at school and said as much to person A. Person A rang Person B shouting so Person B hung up and informed person C who is in charge of said club. It was originally decided that person a's DC could attend as person a said that their dc wasn't poorly on the Friday, they were off for a family emergency. Then person C made the decision that person A's DC could not attend. Person B messaged person A to let them know and provided contact details for person c. Person A rang person C and shouted at them also.
Persons B and C feel that persons A DC should transfer to a different club, however Person B also feels that the DC shouldn't suffer because of Person A's behaviour.
So AIBU let the DC stay even tho person A has threatened volunteers of the club
Or AINBU transfer the DC out, nobody should be threatened especially when they're volunteering.
Person A and person B are acquaintances at school, person B and C are volunteers.

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ShiteRider · 08/12/2024 19:52

person B comes across as very interfering, they shouldn’t have nebbed in. Person A shouldn’t have shouted though. But none of this would have happened if person B hadn’t have taken it upon themselves to make decisions for everyone.

mumedu · 08/12/2024 19:50

Eh?

Bodeganights · 08/12/2024 19:50

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:56

Personally if my child hadn't been at school before a trip then they wouldn't be going on the trip, if they are well enough for a treat then they are well enough to go to school.

Not your child, not your decision to make.

You do you, you leave everyone else to make their own decisions on their own children.

That still doesnt give anyone the right to yell at someone else.

BobLemon · 08/12/2024 19:47

Urgh. Person B is a nosey parker and possibly power tripping on this.

Madisnttheword · 08/12/2024 19:43

You're the problem OP. It's unfortunate you can't see it. And if you have said you would do the same again, what was the point in starting a thread asking what others would do? As it is obvious you thought you were right and you still think you're right, so it's a pointless thread

HollyKnight · 08/12/2024 19:43

But you didn't even know what the child was poorly with. It might not have been something contagious. You just flexed your bit of power and got the child banned from the trip and potentially from the club now.

pizzaHeart · 08/12/2024 19:42

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 18:43

I haven't actually been told what the illness was or wasn't.

And that was the problem because it’s all was hearsay. Don’t make assumptions on behalf of other people. Maybe child just had a bit of cold and mum deliberately left them at home to recover for the trip. Maybe child had periods and 2 first days are tricky to manage but the 3d one is ok. Maybe child had anxiety attack or toothache.
If you were unsure about the trip attendance you should have asked parents in your official capacity: Hi Helen, im checking last things for the trip on Saturday and heard that little Louisa was out of school today and yesterday. Can you confirm if she’s still going onto the trip?
I think mum was wrong to shout but maybe something going on and she was stressed and your interference didn’t help at all. Yes you have policy about illnesses but I bet you have policy about exclusion child from an activity on the base of someone’s assumptions ax well.

Disclaimer: my child doesn't go to school and activities if unwell. The rule is that if she is not in school today - no other activities as well (e.g club or cinema) However it doesn’t mean no activities this week/months. It’s possible to be out of school on Friday but in a drama club on Saturday.

sandyhappypeople · 08/12/2024 19:42

Person B assumed person A's DC would not be attending as they hadn't been at school and said as much to person A.

What do you mean you "said as much to person A"? Said what? How did it come up?

Are you saying that you crossed them off from the trip and then informed person A they were no longer invited because you assumed they were ill.. in which case her shouting isn't acceptable but I'd be annoyed if you made assumptions and decisions about my child's attendance without even bothering to ask me.

I think the TLDR is that you crossed her child off the list based on an assumption, and she was so mad about it she rang you up to shout and then rang the leader up to shout?

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:41

DoreenonTill8 · 08/12/2024 19:38

Given B has a clear anti-A agenda... I'm doubting the veracity of As shouting.
Is it a competitive club where your and As child are against each other? 🤔

No not at all, my child doesn't attend this club anymore

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farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:41

I'm off to bed as I've had a busy weekend and I'm exhausted! Looking forward to reading all the comments from people who only think of their own dc and don't consider the implications of the rest of the group. You know the ones who tell school that their child has a temp rather than d & v because they can't possibly look after their own child for a full 48 hours and they would much rather risk making a whole class poorly.
If person a had been honest then this could have all been avoided. I don't give a shit what she does in her own time, and I've got enough on with my own kids than to worry over how people parent their children, but having said this we have to do safeguarding etc and we have to pay attention to communication from parents, and to listen to the children themselves, and REPORT to the appropriate person , which was done.
As I've mentioned before I would do exactly the same again, except I'd ask all parents to report to the group leader that's in charge of the event instead.

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DoreenonTill8 · 08/12/2024 19:38

Given B has a clear anti-A agenda... I'm doubting the veracity of As shouting.
Is it a competitive club where your and As child are against each other? 🤔

janeavrilavril · 08/12/2024 19:38

person B caused the whole drama.

Madisnttheword · 08/12/2024 19:37

None of this would have happened if it wasn't for B. B (you) should have kept your nose out of it. Shit stirring and causing trouble to the extreme. Yes, A shouldn't have shouted and screamed, but she lost her cool, because of your intolerable behaviour

DoYouReally · 08/12/2024 19:37

The problem here is you made assumptions.

The child's parent never told you they were too ill to attend or told you the reason they were off school.

You decided to take action on the basis of limited information.

This is your issue but you don't seem to realise that.

sprigatito · 08/12/2024 19:37

She's perfectly at liberty to "change her story"! Who do you think you are? Special Branch? You used information about her that you gained from being a fellow school mum, nothing to do with your volunteering role. You shared information about her child's health with a third party. You massively overstepped and have caused this drama.

DetestTheClockChange · 08/12/2024 19:35

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 18:43

I haven't actually been told what the illness was or wasn't.

This makes things a million times worse, on you.

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:33

GettingThemFromHereToThere · 08/12/2024 19:19

Person A = aggressive overreacter.

Person B - shit stirrer (and assumed)

Person. - indicisive. Can’t go around saying it’s fine then changing your mind.

Sounds like a club I wouldn’t want to be a part of. Is it Scouts? Surely you have to just accept parents version of events like anything. You can’t go around accusing them of lying, even when you heavily suspect they are.

No not scouts

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BeerForMyHorses · 08/12/2024 19:33

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 18:43

I haven't actually been told what the illness was or wasn't.

How on earth did you figure that they would make the other 40 kids ill then?
Could have been a head ache!

You were an interfering busy body and have caused a huge fuss

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:33

Tiswa · 08/12/2024 19:18

@farmergirl15 so as a volunteer she told you in your official capacity her child was unwell - do you know with what

the NHS has strict guidelines on this chickenpox/norovirus yes you can virus no temp/hand foot mouth/tonsilities actually no you cant

do you have guidelines and a risk assessment set out? A charter and an overall person in charge and protocol to follow

Becuase if A does complain you may well be in trouble

Yes we have guidelines, she changed her story, which lead us to believe that mum wanted her child to attend even tho they were poorly. Children are age 7. The main reason is parents behaviour. Parent screaming and shouting, if parent doesn't trust the volunteers and their judgement calls then why would they send their child away with them?

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Jom222 · 08/12/2024 19:31

Whenever I see an ABC story I auto-change to Annie Becky Carrie or Andrew Bob Carl, its just too hard to follow otherwise.

Back to OPs post-B was nosy, pushy and meddling. The kids may have been out of school for reasons other than communicable illness and Annies changing explanation could’ve been her not wanting to share a private situation.

Theoretically Becky might have been concerned re the health of the entire group esp as its Dec and nobody wants illness in the house at the busy holiday.

However Becky didn’t know and pushed and prodded and imo the best thing to have done is flag it with Carrie and let her investigate if she felt necessary. OP sounds like she’s enjoying the whole mess she created.

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:30

Babbahabba · 08/12/2024 19:09

You don't like person B and had an axe to grind. Highly doubt you were genuinely worried about health and safety.

I am person b. And I usually get on with person a quite well. Not enough to go out for drinks or anything, but chatting was always fine

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farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:29

Starseeking · 08/12/2024 19:09

Person B shouldn't have made assumptions and started calling others to inform them. I don't understand why this action was taken.

You should have waited for Parent A to advise whether their DC was still ill on the day of the trip.

It was the day of the trip, first thing I was told child was poorly, then they weren't

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farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:28

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 08/12/2024 19:07

Do the attendees pay for the activity and trip?

Yes, a refund has been made for the trip

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ChampagneLassie · 08/12/2024 19:27

Or maybe they kept the children off for some other reason and illness was a white lie? They our story is hard to follow, but if you are involved in running this club (not clear?) and A is abusive ban them. If you’re not a volunteer of running club stop interfering

DetestTheClockChange · 08/12/2024 19:26

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:52

I'm person B, I don't want to use names as I don't want any further threats of complaints.

You're person B? No shit Hmm

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