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Wondering what others would do in this situation

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farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:46

Person A told person B that their DC was poorly on a Thursday, their DC was off school for two days. There was a weekend away planned with a club.
Person B assumed person A's DC would not be attending as they hadn't been at school and said as much to person A. Person A rang Person B shouting so Person B hung up and informed person C who is in charge of said club. It was originally decided that person a's DC could attend as person a said that their dc wasn't poorly on the Friday, they were off for a family emergency. Then person C made the decision that person A's DC could not attend. Person B messaged person A to let them know and provided contact details for person c. Person A rang person C and shouted at them also.
Persons B and C feel that persons A DC should transfer to a different club, however Person B also feels that the DC shouldn't suffer because of Person A's behaviour.
So AIBU let the DC stay even tho person A has threatened volunteers of the club
Or AINBU transfer the DC out, nobody should be threatened especially when they're volunteering.
Person A and person B are acquaintances at school, person B and C are volunteers.

OP posts:
Pippyls67 · 09/12/2024 19:01

You really need to climb down on this one and stop using ‘the greater good’ as an excuse. There was absolutely no reason to think the child was contagious and absolutely nothing to do with you whether they went on to attend the weekend m. You interfered where you shouldn’t and you have caused problems. A parent and child with a family emergency really don’t need this additional layer of unnecessary drama - all caused entirely by you I’m afraid. Little wonder you pushed the parent over the edge a bit. If you have a shred of decency and you are in any way suited to volunteering with children you need to accept your error. The child deserves an apology or they’ll loose faith in adults to behave responsibility and magnanimously. It’s beholden on you to issue this apology. Please do it unreservedly and without blaming the child’s already stressed parent in the mix. I say this as someone who has volunteered with a childrens organisation for many many years.

Ireallycantthinkofagoodone · 09/12/2024 18:45

MrsMitford3 · 08/12/2024 18:34

All this person A B C makes me feel like I am back in school with a question like "there is a train travelling 1000 mph, 10 chickens get on in slough, 8 elephants get off in Reading. What time did the train arrive in london?"
The answer is Blue.

My brain literally shuts down. TLDR

Oh gosh - I remember that question in an exam. I answered ‘Uncle Reg’ - no wonder I failed……..

Eskimal · 09/12/2024 17:46

Too confusing.

maddening · 08/12/2024 21:49

Person b was bu - they did not know that there was any risk to others on the trip imo - for example if it was d&v on Wednesday then the 48 hours has passed by Saturday- why should B get the dc kicked off the trip! They have overstepped boundaries imo

uptheculdesac · 08/12/2024 21:44

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:58

So should we have let the child attend, even tho we had been told by their parent that they were poorly? Then risk 40 children and volunteers getting poorly just so we didn't seem like busybodies? Meaning we give up our personal time and risk having to be off work?

So you didn't want the child to attend? But then you say you are the one who said the child could attend.
Which is it?

DoreenonTill8 · 08/12/2024 21:33

ExtraOnions · 08/12/2024 19:59

How was this situation Safeguarding ??? If you think it was, you don’t understand what the word “safeguarding” means

Which is quite concerning given As high level of self importance!

Herewegoagain84 · 08/12/2024 21:00

Usually people aren’t ill for more than a couple of days, so nothing to suggest even if ill on thurs/fri, that the kid was fine for the weekend? Person B = massive busybody, and frankly none of their business. They weren’t ensuring everyone else didn’t get ill (which is such a bizarre thing people think they can “manage”), just annoying tbh.

Orangesandlemons82 · 08/12/2024 20:56

Person B should not have got involved. Although Person B will not accept any criticism or comments that they were wrong.

Viviennemary · 08/12/2024 20:26

They all sound as batty as each other. Poor kids.

Marmalade1987 · 08/12/2024 20:24

Almost every reply is telling you, that you were in the wrong. That really speaks volumes

you can’t police this situation and it’s ended badly because you’ve massively overstepped

as someone correctly said, if it was Monday & Tuesday off school and feeling better Wednesday they would be back in, no questions asked.

yet you’ve assumed this very bizarre position of making it your mission to stop this child coming.

i don’t believe your as friendly as you say and actually sound quite manipulative.

so child is off poorly thurs & Fri, but you actually learn they were off for an emergency, which you know to be true.
that’s where it ends. No calling C. And at a push if you were concerned about the other children getting ill, then you would have asked what was wrong with the child, you know, to do your thorough risk assessment. But you didn’t

that is why I feel you were manipulating the situation, for the child not To come. I probably would be shouting at you too if I’d been treated like this. You definitely should not be running this.
and definitely need to learn how to conduct risk assessments.
youve concluded that unknown ‘illness’ was highly contagious that it would knock 40 kids down.

bonkerrs this post, and pointless, as you’re not taking anything on board even though nearly everyone has said your in the wrong

BlastedPimples · 08/12/2024 20:22

Poor child of Person A.

Just think of the kid.

JetskiSkyJumper · 08/12/2024 20:21

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 18:43

I haven't actually been told what the illness was or wasn't.

It wasn't on you to decide if the child was going or not. You didn't even know what was wrong with them to know them going actually pissed any risk. What you did was seriously and weirdly controlling

LifeExperience · 08/12/2024 20:21

People can pass on a contagious illness while completely symptom free, so you have been unreasonable about all of this. In a group of 40 people, at least a few will be percolating a virus at any given time, yet adults work in open offices and children sit in classrooms every day. We have immune systems for precisely this reason.

Anotherworrier · 08/12/2024 20:20

Person B should get a life.

LemonTT · 08/12/2024 20:20

You made a judgement without facts or an attempt to get facts. You have no idea whether the child was even ill on the day never mind contagious. All you had to do was ask if it bothered you. Really you should accept the parents judgement as to whether they should send their child. Not all contagious diseases are symptomatic.

It should not be up to you to decide whether to throw the child out. You are hopelessly conflicted.

Just admit you made a mistake. Learn from it.

Saz12 · 08/12/2024 20:12

Parent A thinks fine to phone volunteers to yell at them, doesn't pay on time (so frustrating & time consuming to chase late payments if youre a volunteer), and is a PITA.

They could have phoned and said "I understand youre worried, but DC been off school thurs/Fri due to asthma/family drama/not contagious thing / and is absolutely fine now, so will be fine for the trip away on Saturday" Rather than effing a d reffing and kicking off generally.

WaylandNewt · 08/12/2024 20:08

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:41

I'm off to bed as I've had a busy weekend and I'm exhausted! Looking forward to reading all the comments from people who only think of their own dc and don't consider the implications of the rest of the group. You know the ones who tell school that their child has a temp rather than d & v because they can't possibly look after their own child for a full 48 hours and they would much rather risk making a whole class poorly.
If person a had been honest then this could have all been avoided. I don't give a shit what she does in her own time, and I've got enough on with my own kids than to worry over how people parent their children, but having said this we have to do safeguarding etc and we have to pay attention to communication from parents, and to listen to the children themselves, and REPORT to the appropriate person , which was done.
As I've mentioned before I would do exactly the same again, except I'd ask all parents to report to the group leader that's in charge of the event instead.

examples on this thread prove, this is why we needed lockdowns during covid because of how others aright jack and forget everyone else so to speak

justworking · 08/12/2024 20:06

Person B (or OP) had zero reason to stick their oar in.

The parents are the ones responsible for their child, and for cancelling any activities.

Of course, the parent shouldn't have shouted, and I would say as much in an email (which included an apology for miscommunication)

Barrenfieldoffucks · 08/12/2024 20:02

Octavia64 · 08/12/2024 18:48

Person B was really unreasonable.

Ex teacher and I worked in a school for years.

So so many things her child could have been poorly with that are not infectious illnesses.

Epileptic seizure, migraine, sprained ankle, toothache, etc etc.

I would not have assumed her child was unable to come on the trip and it really does look like person B was making trouble.

Or not even been ill at all, either way, nothing to do with the OP/person B.

OP your best bet would have been to ask A whether child was ill or off because of emergency before wading in.

As it is, you just come across as a complete busybody.

Hercisback1 · 08/12/2024 20:01

What an interfering busy body you are

ExtraOnions · 08/12/2024 19:59

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 19:41

I'm off to bed as I've had a busy weekend and I'm exhausted! Looking forward to reading all the comments from people who only think of their own dc and don't consider the implications of the rest of the group. You know the ones who tell school that their child has a temp rather than d & v because they can't possibly look after their own child for a full 48 hours and they would much rather risk making a whole class poorly.
If person a had been honest then this could have all been avoided. I don't give a shit what she does in her own time, and I've got enough on with my own kids than to worry over how people parent their children, but having said this we have to do safeguarding etc and we have to pay attention to communication from parents, and to listen to the children themselves, and REPORT to the appropriate person , which was done.
As I've mentioned before I would do exactly the same again, except I'd ask all parents to report to the group leader that's in charge of the event instead.

How was this situation Safeguarding ??? If you think it was, you don’t understand what the word “safeguarding” means

YellowAsteroid · 08/12/2024 19:59

farmergirl15 · 08/12/2024 17:53

Person b didn't want anyone else to get poorly on the trip. Person a didn't say that dc wasn't poorly until after the weekend was mentioned

Person B sounds like a bit of a busy-body & made assumptions about Person A.

Person A has behaved badly, but if I were Person A, I would be quite irritated that Person B had assumed to reorganise my child. That should have been between Person A and the organiser (Person C?)

Whaleandsnail6 · 08/12/2024 19:59

So person B (you) decided to assume the child had an illness that was contagious at the weekend, when you had absolutely no details about what was actually wrong with the child the day they were ill.

They could have had an asthma attack. Or anxiety. Or a headache...or a number of things that would have not affected them or the other kids or the volunteers at the weekend away.

You overstepped . But you are not going to admit that so not sure why you have bothered with the thread

janeavrilavril · 08/12/2024 19:57

If person a had been honest then this could have all been avoided. I don't give a shit what she does in her own time

But you so do.

FrangipaniBlue · 08/12/2024 19:55

You keep saying you couldn't take the risk to other children but you don't even know there was a risk, because you didn't bother to ask the mum!

Instead you ran off tattle taling and causing a load of unnecessary drama.

Why on earth didn't you just ask the mum what the DC was sick with??? It would be perfectly reasonable for you to ask this in the capacity of assessing the risk to others.

But you cannot do that risk assessment WITHOUT ALL OF THE INFORMATION!

To make it worse, you're sloping your shoulders with "but I didn't make the final decision"...... clearly this was the outcome you wanted though otherwise you wouldn't have went running to the other organiser.

As for the mum shouting at you..... not sure I fully believe that given you are so obviously prone to dramatics, but actually, if you unnecessarily prevented her child from going on a trip they were looking forward to and left her to deal with their disappointment then I think she was slightly justified in making her feelings known.

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