To ask if Fairytale of New York is your favourite Christmas song?

harmoneygarxe · 2024-12-08T17:39:13+00:00

Just that really. Is it a love it or hate it song?

NeedABabelFish · 10/12/2024 19:25

@Crikeyalmighty - I work in music - you have very good taste!!

Why, thank you very much! Not many people have said that to me 😂

worrisomeasset · 10/12/2024 19:16

I’ve heard all of them so many times that I don’t want to hear any of them again. I was in M&S earlier today and they were playing the usual festive cack. Then, to my surprise and joy, they played “Miss You” by the Rolling Stones, a song that has no Christmas links whatsoever. I don’t even like the song that much, it was just a blessed relief to have something that wasn’t Mariah, Pogues, Wham etc playing for just a bit.

Bongeyzenobe · 10/12/2024 18:34

@Elphame First album I ever had was Wombles greatest hits so they are all classic tunes in my mind!

Elphame · 10/12/2024 13:12

Crikeyalmighty · 09/12/2024 17:04

@Bongeyzenobe The Wombles one is immense!! I also love remember you're a Womble!!

Remember Minuetto Allegretto? It was one of the first pieces I learnt to play on my clarinet!

Mummadeze · 10/12/2024 06:27

Funny, I was just saying the other day how it is my least favourite Christmas song! Last Christmas is my favourite and never gets old for me.

Oblomov24 · 10/12/2024 06:23

Not my fave. I like a variety of old and new. I do actually like Mariah Christmas one.

dollybird · 09/12/2024 17:34

'Grandma got run over by a reindeer' is a funny Christmas song

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harmoneygarxe · 09/12/2024 17:20

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 15:32

To have a conversation about Christmas songs. Do you have anything to say on the subject?

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ARealitycheck · 09/12/2024 17:16

Has Dominick the Donkey made the list?

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Crikeyalmighty · 09/12/2024 17:04

@Bongeyzenobe The Wombles one is immense!! I also love remember you're a Womble!!

sweeneytoddsrazor · 09/12/2024 16:45

White bread is eaten all year around . Stop the Cavalry , Stay, Pipes of Peace are only played at Christmas. That is the difference. Technically not about Christmas but synonymous with Christmas. They have become a Christmas tradition
I would argue that The Power of Love is different because that does get played at other times.

Sonowimbackfromouterspace · 09/12/2024 16:16

AlecTrevelyan006 · 09/12/2024 16:10

Stop The Cavalry isn’t about Christmas - it’s an anti-war song but everyone associates it with Christmas because 1) there’s a single line in the song that references Christmas and 2) it was released in December 1980.

Masterbeth already did that one.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 09/12/2024 16:10

Stop The Cavalry isn’t about Christmas - it’s an anti-war song but everyone associates it with Christmas because 1) there’s a single line in the song that references Christmas and 2) it was released in December 1980.

TwistedWonder · 09/12/2024 15:57

No. I’m not a lover of Christmas songs generally. The only one I find palatable is Darlene Love

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 15:52

HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 15:44

And, yes, you're right, the Christmas bread packaging is just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas food. Like the videos for The Power of Love, Pipes of Peace and Stay Another Day are just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas songs.

Are there non Christmas themed versions of these?

There's definitely a non-Christmas Stay Another Day video: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/07f7c216-6964-4aba-a960-1a0fa74c0fe4

Is East 17's Stay Another Day actually a Christmas song?

"On the one hand, it has bells, snow and silly outfits. On the other, it is actually about death."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/07f7c216-6964-4aba-a960-1a0fa74c0fe4

Anoisagusaris · 09/12/2024 15:48

One of my favourite songs of all time, not just Christmas songs. Shane McGowan was a poet, a legend. It’s such a heartbreaking yet uplifting song. I adore Kirsty too.

HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 15:44

And, yes, you're right, the Christmas bread packaging is just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas food. Like the videos for The Power of Love, Pipes of Peace and Stay Another Day are just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas songs.

Are there non Christmas themed versions of these?

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 15:32

harmoneygarxe · 09/12/2024 14:54

And again. Why are you still here?

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To have a conversation about Christmas songs. Do you have anything to say on the subject?

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 15:31

HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 14:30

Do you generally only eat it at Christmas? When you eat it, does your brain say "oh... it must be Christmas?"
If yes. Then yes. It is, arguably Christmas food.
If no, then no it isn't.

And Warburtons putting elves on the packaging is just marketing ffs.

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Hmm. I don't think anyone's personal association of sliced bread with Christmas would turn it into Christmas food when it has none of the characteristics of Christmas food.

It's more nuanced than Christmas songs or movies, though, because the characteristics of Christmas food are based on tradition or taste (spices, winter flavours) rather than any intrinsic qualities. Christmas songs, though, are easily identified - they are about Christmas story or Christmas themed.

And, yes, you're right, the Christmas bread packaging is just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas food. Like the videos for The Power of Love, Pipes of Peace and Stay Another Day are just marketing for pre-existing non-Christmas songs.

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harmoneygarxe · 09/12/2024 14:54

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 14:12

Is sliced white bread a Christmas food?

I say no, even if you wrap it in Christmas iconography and eat it at Christmas. It's still not Christmas food.

Even if you put East 17 in snowproof coats and release their single at Christmas, it's not a Christmas record.

This bread is the Stay Another Day of food:

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And again. Why are you still here?

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HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 14:30

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 14:12

Is sliced white bread a Christmas food?

I say no, even if you wrap it in Christmas iconography and eat it at Christmas. It's still not Christmas food.

Even if you put East 17 in snowproof coats and release their single at Christmas, it's not a Christmas record.

This bread is the Stay Another Day of food:

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Do you generally only eat it at Christmas? When you eat it, does your brain say "oh... it must be Christmas?"
If yes. Then yes. It is, arguably Christmas food.
If no, then no it isn't.

And Warburtons putting elves on the packaging is just marketing ffs.

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 14:12

HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 13:40

My point is that it isn't a song about Christmas, but it is a Christmas song because our brains associate it with Christmas. It's that simple.

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Is sliced white bread a Christmas food?

I say no, even if you wrap it in Christmas iconography and eat it at Christmas. It's still not Christmas food.

Even if you put East 17 in snowproof coats and release their single at Christmas, it's not a Christmas record.

This bread is the Stay Another Day of food:

To ask if Fairytale of New York is your favourite Christmas song?

Stephy1886 · 09/12/2024 13:47

And I see that people are arguing about East 17

you haven’t head the Irish version:

”Maybe he was in the ira, don’t think he will ever say
Gerry stay another day”

Stephy1886 · 09/12/2024 13:44

people don’t like the original lyrics but most haven’t heard the Irish version:

“the boys of the NI peeler team were playing GAA
And the crowds were singing up the (blank)

HaddyAbrams · 09/12/2024 13:40

MasterBeth · 09/12/2024 13:37

They are talking about their favourite Christmas songs. And then you are arguing and telling them they aren't Christmas songs.

The East 17 one isn't really a Christmas song. But it always makes me think of Christmas.

This is some deep level existential argument you've got going on here.

You're arguing with me that I'm arguing that a song that isn't a Christmas song isn't a Christmas songs while at the same time agreeing that it isn't a Christmas song!

Stay Another Day is a song about fraternal suicide. It's a song that gets played at Christmas but, as you say, it's not a Christmas song.

Why is anyone getting upset to be reminded what is and what isn't a Christmas song? Why are you insisting that up is down and black is white and that East 17 were singing about Christmas?

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My point is that it isn't a song about Christmas, but it is a Christmas song because our brains associate it with Christmas. It's that simple.