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DP just called DD ungrateful - I’m fuming!

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Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 17:03

DP and I not on great terms at the moment.

DD is 14 (not his). We live together.

I was in the kitchen folding washing with DD and she mentioned her pj bottoms had faded abit, not in a rude way, just generally.

’D’P then loudly said from the other room ‘so ungrateful’!

I went in and asked who he was talking to, apparently it was DD, he could see my reaction so tried to laugh it off.

DD and I went upstairs for a while, came back down and he wanted me to apologise for ‘over reacting’ to the comment. Adding that he is sick of ‘emotional women’ in the house. He then made some shity comments about ‘don’t even ask me to apologise or I’ll actually laugh’

Suddenly have massive ick and he is sulking

OP posts:
MagnoliaGirlie · 08/12/2024 19:47

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 17:20

Yup

Sorry, did he say he was "sick of ‘emotional women’ in the house"? Did you tell him he could fuck off your house then and find another one? Unbelievable!

LookItsMeAgain · 08/12/2024 19:43

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 18:23

He is on the tenancy 😢 it was my house, I lived here for 5 years, just me and DD, but when he moved in, he wanted the ‘security’ of being on the tenancy and at the time it made sense

He's really done a number on you hasn't he?

Based on this information, I'd keep your powder dry until you've had whatever legal advice may be necessary to get him removed from the tenancy and get him removed from the tenancy and present it as a done deal at that stage.

GlomOfNit · 08/12/2024 19:42

It's the crack about 'fed up of living with emotional women' I'd find the deal breaker. That's told you, loud and clear, who he is, his mental age and his attitude towards women - specifically, to the woman he's meant to love, and the light of her life, her daughter.

OP, he doesn't like your DD. He lives in her house. She's 14. You HAVE to protect her, in her own house, from his toxicity. Either get him to leave and see if the relationship has any legs if you just live apart, or dump entirely.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 08/12/2024 19:41

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:38

What you did was illegal 🤷🏼‍♀️ if they didn't actually move out when the s21 expired then the existing tenancy continued including his right to reside in the property. If you created a new tenancy for the woman you de facto evicted him by disregarding his existing tenancy and you could have been sued.

But it didn't happen, and he moved out and she stayed there as sole tenant.

Giving notice was absolutely my right, as was choosing who to rent to and sign up on a brand new tenancy agreement.

Editing to say their joint tenancy agreement was up and they were on month to month - so I gave legal notice. Once he moved out, I legally signed just her up to a new one year tenancy agreement.

Nothing illegal at all.

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 08/12/2024 19:40

MiddleParking · 08/12/2024 17:04

Could be worse, could be no man at all.

Don’t trip over that you’ve set ASTOUNDINGLY low

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:38

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 08/12/2024 19:14

I'm a landlord with one flat. My tenant's wife came to me with a situation, she had had to have the police as husband got violent then wouldn't go when she asked him to leave. They were both on the tenancy which was finished fixed term and on a rolling month to month basis.

So I gave both of them one month's notice to quit and then signed just her and the children up to a new one year lease.

When the husband got my notice letter, sent registered post, he moved out as he didn't want any police involvement.

I suggest @Rosettespur speaks to her landlord ASAP. As she's been the sole tenant for many years before putting not-so-'D'P on the tenancy agreement, he should be willing to do this for her.

What you did was illegal 🤷🏼‍♀️ if they didn't actually move out when the s21 expired then the existing tenancy continued including his right to reside in the property. If you created a new tenancy for the woman you de facto evicted him by disregarding his existing tenancy and you could have been sued.

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:34

justasking111 · 08/12/2024 18:46

I'd do it for her if she was the sole tenant beforehand and a good one.

If you're a landlord you should know this isn't legal! You can be sued if you do this.

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:33

toucheee · 08/12/2024 18:44

So it should be easy for landlord to take him off tenancy and put you as sole tenant.

Call LL first thing!

This isn't legal.

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:32

Onthesideofthespiders · 08/12/2024 18:42

If it’s a private landlord and they like you then ask if you can give notice and get yourself off the tenancy, then once he cannot pay rent and moves out, ask if you can renew and move back in?
But, if he won’t go and is happy to let the landlord evict him through the courts to get a few months of free living, then you just need to find somewhere else to live.

No landlord will agree to that 🙄

also she can't just remove him from the tenancy without his agreement. She could give notice and ask the landlord if they will give her a sole tenancy to start on the day they move out but this could be considered an illegal eviction (of him) and he could sue the landlord so it's by no means certain any landlord would agree to do this.

Oodydoody · 08/12/2024 19:32

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 19:19

When I did this, it all was going well!

How can it have been going well if he was paying nothing and your daughter wasn't keen?

How can her opinion of someone foisted on her into her home, mean so little to you.

Can you really not see that?
Her home should be a safe place.
You and he have taken that from her.

Please wake up to this and get him out.
Your daughter deserves so much better that this.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 08/12/2024 19:28

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 18:21

I suppose I was in love with him. There was pressure from him that he was no longer getting along with his family living with them. He missed me all the time. He wanted to spend more and more time together which was difficult when we living apart.

And it is definitely true that you don’t know someone until you have lived with them!!

WOW! He knew what he was doing.
He knew exactly what to say to you to get his foot in the door.

"My family doesn't like me." "I miss you ALL the time!" "I want to spend more time with you. BTW, can you palm your DD off more?"

Edited to erase the advice since he is on the tenancy.

I really cannot believe that you let him move in AND put him on the tenancy! Of course it was going good at the time. He needed a place to live, and you were ready, willing and able to bow to his concern instead of your DD's.

The fact that you no longer live with your DD's father, should have been a clue that many things do not last and jumping into something, when he and your DD were not close, was wrong.

I hope your landlord helps you get him off the tenancy and out of your life.

You might start to think that "things were good, most of the time". Of course they were! He has been living rent-free, but on the tenancy, and his bills are all paid! Just think what kind of holiday or pjs you could have gotten your DD if you hadn't been supporting a cocklodger.

If he has to stay until the lease runs out, I'd tell him he is now responsible for one half the rent, one half of all utilities and one half of all food, drink and misc. that is bought into the house. If he cannot pay, let the landlord know that.

Isthisit22 · 08/12/2024 19:28

Why on earth did you put him on the tenancy and allow him to pay nothing? Do you think this is all you are worth?
Time to value yourself and get this freeloader out.

Fannyfiggs · 08/12/2024 19:25

peppeRomia · 08/12/2024 18:42

Good on you for pulling him up straight away. Your daughter will always remember that.

Or she might remember that her mother made her live with this man for eighteen months, a man she had to tolerate because her fiercely independent mother moved him in.

Fair point

Mls1984btc · 08/12/2024 19:23

sending positive vibes to your @Rosettespur

get this cocklodger out asap - cheeks of some men knows no bounds!

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 08/12/2024 19:22

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 19:19

When I did this, it all was going well!

Yes of course it was - then once on the tenancy he could relax and show his true colours. But never mind, his time is well and truly up!

Wigglywoowho · 08/12/2024 19:21

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 19:19

When I did this, it all was going well!

It's not your fault. They let it all hang out once they are comfortable and think you are trapped.

Skyrainlight · 08/12/2024 19:20

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 18:03

DD is at her dad’s tomorrow night. I’m going to speak to him about ending the relationship. I am confident that he will dig his heels in and not want to move out. He has burned bridges with most of his family.

He is absolutely going to say that I’m ending the relationship because of xyz, crappy reasons but deep down I don’t care.

I'm so pleased to hear that, be strong! It's not your problem he has burned bridges, he's had plenty of opportunity sponging off you for 18 months to save money for his next place. It's was sad to read that your daughter was so resigned about what he says to her. Can't believe he doesn't even pay to live with you then says the child who actually belongs in the house in ungrateful. What a horrible character.

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 19:19

When I did this, it all was going well!

OP posts:
AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 08/12/2024 19:18

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 18:03

DD is at her dad’s tomorrow night. I’m going to speak to him about ending the relationship. I am confident that he will dig his heels in and not want to move out. He has burned bridges with most of his family.

He is absolutely going to say that I’m ending the relationship because of xyz, crappy reasons but deep down I don’t care.

I don't think you should care what he will claim for a reason. Feel free to tell him that your "ick" factor has been steadily increasing, and the other day was the day it went to the moon. Inform him that you are going to look out for your daughter's and your own best interest, and he isn't a part of that equation. Make sure to change the locks.

I feel so sad for your DD. She has been living with a man who does not seem to care for her and who she "tolerates". In her home. Her safe space. The space where you teach her what behavior from men is acceptable and what is not.

If he whines and sulks that he has no place to go, remember this; "Not your circus, not your clown car". Your "job" is to provide the best, safest, most loving home you can for you and your daughter. Your job is NOT catering to a cocklodger who doesn't even act like you are a family.

I wish you the best and hope you let us know how it goes for you and your DD.

Mrsbloggz · 08/12/2024 19:15

I'm sorry that you're getting such a flaming OP, I hope you can use it to galvanise you into action🙏

Startingagainandagain · 08/12/2024 19:14

Sounds like a complete loser...

Get rid of that waste of space.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 08/12/2024 19:14

I'm a landlord with one flat. My tenant's wife came to me with a situation, she had had to have the police as husband got violent then wouldn't go when she asked him to leave. They were both on the tenancy which was finished fixed term and on a rolling month to month basis.

So I gave both of them one month's notice to quit and then signed just her and the children up to a new one year lease.

When the husband got my notice letter, sent registered post, he moved out as he didn't want any police involvement.

I suggest @Rosettespur speaks to her landlord ASAP. As she's been the sole tenant for many years before putting not-so-'D'P on the tenancy agreement, he should be willing to do this for her.

TheSilkWorm · 08/12/2024 19:14

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 18:23

He is on the tenancy 😢 it was my house, I lived here for 5 years, just me and DD, but when he moved in, he wanted the ‘security’ of being on the tenancy and at the time it made sense

Fucking hell. You're the only security your DD has got. What on earth have you done giving away her security of her home to a man???

Skyrainlight · 08/12/2024 19:13

He sounds foul. Silencing woman with the 'emotional' insult because he was in he wrong. I'd get rid of him if you can.

Anotherworrier · 08/12/2024 19:12

Rosettespur · 08/12/2024 17:20

Can be a twat but has never said anything like this to DD!

Good God, did you call the police?

Unless there’s a huge back story this is ridiculous.