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To be feeling incredibly sad about not having a cohesive friendship group/wider circle of friends?

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 14:48

I am feeling so utterly miserable about my social life and situation. Sorry for the vent.

I feel bad saying this. I do have friends - two close ones from university, and one really close one from elsewhere. A few others from here and there. I'm always able to make plans/see someone for a drink/go to the theatre/have dinner with someone etc. With the two uni friends, we socialise much more casually too, and hang out all day at someone's house, for example.

However, I was a bit shy at university and going through some personal stuff. Entirely my fault. But I didn't make as much effort to socialise broadly and haven't ended up with a large group of friends/wider network of people I'm in touch with. I'm in my 30s now and most people I meet seem to have a handful of close friends, but often they're part of a larger group and a wider social network of friends and acquaintances. Besides my two university friends, most of the other friends I have are just from here and there, and are individual friendships. I know I could host parties etc and get people together, which I have done in the past, but I don't necessarily think they'd all gel, and in any case it's just not the same as that feeling of affection that comes from the shared history large friendship groups have due to spending a lot of time in the same place.

I make a lot of effort to keep in touch with the friends I do have, but still feel incredibly lonely sometimes. It would be so lovely to have a larger group of friends, walk into a room with several people I know well, and be invited to more things, and just have that extended network of "friends of friends" and lots of people around.

Obviously I'm going to keep making efforts to socialise and say yes to things, maybe join a book club etc, but realistically I just don't see how I will be able to create that friendship group for myself from scratch. I don't have a partner and that feels like something I also want to change, but honestly the friendship thing is getting me down more right now. One of my close university friends, who is absolutely lovely, has such a wide circle of people she's in touch with from university and elsewhere, and her lifestyle is just filled with people and activities and stories. I feel so jealous and my life feels so small in comparison. But I don't actually feel like less of a sociable person, or less interesting, or less fun/likeable than her! It's all down to choices I made. University is typically the time you build these kind of friendships and networks that you're connected with long after, and I didn't utilise the time well in that regard, having come away with only two close friends and no acquaintances.

Not sure what I'm looking for really. Advice? Commiseration? Similar experiences? Positive stories of establishing close friendship groups later in life? Thanks for reading.

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 19:58

Gwenhwyfar · 08/12/2024 19:57

" University is typically the time you build these kind of friendships and networks that you're connected with long after"

No, I don't really agree. Your friendships in later life won't necessarily have much to do with who you went to school or university with. I think you can stop blaming yourself for not making 'enough' friends at university.

Yeah, probably you're right in the grand scheme of things. But the two good friends I do have from university are both still connected to loads of people from our university. I literally just have those two, and find it quite embarrassing/shameful.

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GettingThemFromHereToThere · 08/12/2024 19:46

I’ve never been one for superficial friendships so I can’t relate. I’d much rather have a few close friends who I know well and who truly care about me.

We’re all different and we do what’s right at the time. Don’t beat yourself up.

The problem with only have a very small group is that if someone moves or is otherwise busy, you're in trouble. It really is good to have a slightly wider group.

Gwenhwyfar · 08/12/2024 19:57

" University is typically the time you build these kind of friendships and networks that you're connected with long after"

No, I don't really agree. Your friendships in later life won't necessarily have much to do with who you went to school or university with. I think you can stop blaming yourself for not making 'enough' friends at university.

Mary46 · 08/12/2024 19:51

Same here op but Im 50s. Prob max 3 loyal friends. Not into big groups though think Im more relaxed if its small. Our school mam group still meet 5 us and I enjoy that. I havent loads friends but feel large groups can be drama too. I meet a few for coffee met them through kids sports

CalmDuck · 08/12/2024 19:47

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GettingThemFromHereToThere · 08/12/2024 19:46

I’ve never been one for superficial friendships so I can’t relate. I’d much rather have a few close friends who I know well and who truly care about me.

We’re all different and we do what’s right at the time. Don’t beat yourself up.

Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:44

Op do you have kids? I think people feel differently at different stages of their life. I have a couple of school friends known for 20+ years, the rest of my friends are all ex work friends. (I didn't go to uni) I don't have large groups of friends and I'm not bothered. I have various friends I don't see for months but we do message and I know will be there if I need them. A couple that I see regularly and the others every few weeks as and when we can meet up. When you have a family it takes up a lot of your time and you have less time to socialise. Also your interests do change as you get older and you will drift apart from your uni friends, I have more in common with my work friends than my oldest school friends. In face my true friends really are my work friends so if I were you I'd try and build friendships with people at work if you can. After all these are people you spend most of the day with so will naturally get to know very well

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 19:42

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But it doesn't feel full. I don't socialise with all those friends regularly - we keep in touch but many have moved away, some have had kids so less time etc. There's about three people I see regularly. When you average it out, I end up having some kind of social plan every week, but that includes stuff like just popping over for a quick coffee or seeing my sister in law. It's not a full social life with exciting plans and regular invites to fun things. That's my point. Anyway, thanks for your comment.

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Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:29

The best quote I ever read was the miracle of Jesus was that he had 12 close friends in his 30's.

Ha ha ha! Relatable

LostittoBostik · 08/12/2024 19:31

I think some of this is age. I had a group like that at school but never since. Uni I had people I was friends with here and there but never a cohesive gang.

As an adult I've picked up some close new friends from workplaces or through parenting/nursery/school run, but they are mostly one-on-one or just three of us meeting up.

I've also been jealous of those big groups in the past but I've actually realised they are quite rare

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 19:30

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I do. And I meet my friends' friends there and its nice and we get on. But they don't translate into actual friendships, or me becoming part of that group in any meaningful way.

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Whippetlovely · 08/12/2024 19:29

The best quote I ever read was the miracle of Jesus was that he had 12 close friends in his 30's.

Baddaybigcloud · 08/12/2024 19:24

You’ll probs get a group or at least a few mum friends when you have kids

Driedonion · 08/12/2024 19:22

I had great friends at uni but only kept in touch with 2 long term.
Some friendships just don’t last and are only “for a season”.
I would concentrate on making more new friends rather than having regrets about the past.

lollylo · 08/12/2024 19:20

I picked up 2-3 friends from each life stage. So now I’m several decades in I have a set of friends. How old are you?

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Early 30s, no partner. Im guessing I'd feel differently if I had a partner, but I'd still want to feel like I had good social circles of my own outside the relationship.

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:50

FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:49

That sounds nice. I think my issue is, besides my two university friends who do know each other, literally none ofmy socialising is in a group. There are no groups. It's always one on one. Just feeling a bit disconnected I suppose. * *

Like I don't necessarily want/need a solid forever friendship group. I get that's unrealistic and life doesn't always work like that.

I'm just literally part of no groups at all. I think that's what's getting me down.

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leia24 · 08/12/2024 18:46

I think the idea of having a girl gang is overrated.
I am never ever lonely but I don't have a big friendship group from school or uni. I have my old mum friends from baby groups (baby is now 15), I have work friends I've picked up along the way (who have become very close friends), and I have mums I've found connections with at my daughters hobby. I also am very close with my sister. Loads of people I can call, text, meet up with for dinner, different groups I can go on a night out with, but not one big solid forever friends group. And it's fine and I'm really happy actually.

That sounds nice. I think my issue is, besides my two university friends who do know each other, literally none ofmy socialising is in a group. There are no groups. It's always one on one. Just feeling a bit disconnected I suppose. * *

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:47

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Ughh I don't know, maybe I'm not explaining it well. You're quoting very specific phrases I've used from other threads, lol. Maybe "tonnes" was an exaggeration. I do have quite a few individual friends though - maybe 12 or so, all from different stages of life but all totally unconnected to each other. All my socialising is always one-on-one, never a group situation, there's never that dynamic of belonging that comes with being part of a group.

So yes, I guess that is what I'm saying.

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leia24 · 08/12/2024 18:46

I think the idea of having a girl gang is overrated.
I am never ever lonely but I don't have a big friendship group from school or uni. I have my old mum friends from baby groups (baby is now 15), I have work friends I've picked up along the way (who have become very close friends), and I have mums I've found connections with at my daughters hobby. I also am very close with my sister. Loads of people I can call, text, meet up with for dinner, different groups I can go on a night out with, but not one big solid forever friends group. And it's fine and I'm really happy actually.

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FairTurtle · 08/12/2024 18:40

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Honestly I have tried this - but it just doesn't happen! They are all quite different, in different life stages, and they get along fine when we meet but I don't think the motivation is there for anyone. Besides me, they're all part of wide friendship circles!

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