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To feel hurt by MIL's condescending comments

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MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 13:32

My husband comes from a much wealthier background than I do. His family takes five holidays a year, went to private schools, and bought each kid a large London property when they turned 25. I went to grammar school, had 1–2 holidays a year, and while my parents helped with a deposit, they didn’t buy me a house outright (and yes I am aware that this is actually quite a privileged position, I am by no means poor but just explaining the contrast).

DH works for the family business, which his mum technically owns but doesn’t really run anymore—she’s basically retired, travels a lot, and leaves it to DH and his siblings. His sisters help out part-time when it suits them (since they’re looking after young kids), but DH and his brother run it full-time.

He’s super careful about what he says to his mum—she’s “always right,” and he avoids any conflict with her. Apparently, that’s just how it’s always been. Part of me thinks it’s also because they’re all a bit financially dependent on her. If she ever cut them out of the will or the business, their lifestyle would take a big hit.

I work part-time and take care of our daughters, who are 4 and 1, and I’m pregnant with our son. Even if I worked full-time, what I’d earn wouldn’t compare to what DH makes or receives from his family. He covers all the main expenses, and my salary is just for personal things like clothes, dinners with friends, or trips to the hairdresser. At home, DH is lovely: he’s hands-on with the kids, helps with chores, and is super thoughtful when it’s just us.

The issue is his mum. She makes comments that aren’t directly rude but feel like digs. For example, she buys our daughters designer clothes and says things like, “Girls should always dress in expensive clothes—it sets the tone for their self-worth and taste,” while I’m standing there in my Zara jumper.

At a family gathering, when people joked about my daughter becoming a vet because she loves animals, MIL said, “That’s such a messy job. Do women even enjoy working? It’s just something you do for money. She’ll have everything she needs—no need to work, especially not a messy job.”

She can also be condescending. When she was talking about her travel plans, she mentioned going to a fancy restaurant with my SIL and added, “I suppose you’ve never been there?” When I said I had, she replied, “Oh, who took you there?”

DH doesn’t really address it, saying it’s just how she is, and bringing it up would cause a big falling out. He tells me to rise above it and not take it personally, but honestly, it’s hard not to when the comments feel so pointed.

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carchi · 09/12/2024 21:07

Indulge her while taking as much money and gifts as you can from her knowing that she won't be around forever just play it cool and you will win eventually

BlondeFool · 09/12/2024 21:06

Yeah right.

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 21:02

@thepariscrimefiles I don't think she coerced him as such. More that she said "have you thought about a will yet? Perhaps you should write one and it makes sense to leave it all to me or siblings" (or that's how I imagine from what I know of their dynamic). It's never any coercion or threats, just that they know the consequences if they refuse to do a will or decide to leave it to a spouse (ie they themselves would be left out of the will)

Although that's just me speculating, I wasn't there for the exchange but I know both of them enough to have an educated guess.

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Ilovelifeverymuch · 09/12/2024 21:00

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:53

His mum made him (and his SIL) write a will to say that all of their assets go to mum in case they die, or in case mum dies with them or before them, then it's split between the siblings and absolutely does not go to the spouse (ie BIL or myself).

Obviously the latest Will is the one that's valid. So days after being made to do this will my husband redid his and it says that it all goes to me, or in the event of my death, to the kids.

Your MIL made your DH write his will so his money goes to her if he dies, yeah this has got to be fake 😂

If it's not then I really don't know what you want from this thread because you have made it clear that your DH is amazing and it's just MIL yet neither of you want to give up the money and gifts so just put up with it and move on.

Stop wasting people's time here and selectivley responding only to posts that agree MIL is horrible while ignoring posts that call out the role your weak DH is playing.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 20:59

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:53

His mum made him (and his SIL) write a will to say that all of their assets go to mum in case they die, or in case mum dies with them or before them, then it's split between the siblings and absolutely does not go to the spouse (ie BIL or myself).

Obviously the latest Will is the one that's valid. So days after being made to do this will my husband redid his and it says that it all goes to me, or in the event of my death, to the kids.

OMG this is crazy. She sounds like a Disney villain! I'm imagining Cruella deVille.

Is it even legal for her to coerce your DH and SIL to write a will in her favour?

Crikeyalmighty · 09/12/2024 20:56

She's a really nasty POS OP , but she's funding the lifestyle so I think personally I could suck it up and think 'sod off you old bag' whilst smiling sweetly - but then I'm able to do that - I know others would struggle . I would make sure my H knew what I thought though and saw her as little as I could get away with -

laraitopbanana · 09/12/2024 20:54

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:50

I'd love to build up my own business but with 3 young kids I'm not sure I'm in a position to, I don't want to miss out on key moments of their childhood by spending day and night building up a business and also, the main reason,... i don't exactly have a great idea for a business, otherwise I'd have already started one.

🤣🤣
« Also, I don’t have agreat idea of business. »

You are a legend op!

money or not, boundaries woek for eveeyone especially when you give/take which I think you are btw. Put up one boundary and that will release some steam. Just let her be her. You are doing great mama! Your girls will see the difference.

Good luck op 🌺

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 20:54

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:48

With him, yes. Not with his mum.
Because when it's us 2 or us as a family, without MIL, he treats me well and is an excellent dad to the kids

If your DH stood up to his mother and said that her treatment of you was unacceptable, would she sack him/disown him? Could he get another job? Wouldn't you all be happier with less money but without his mother's corrosive and toxic influence?

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:53

GreenFritillary · 09/12/2024 18:57

BlackeyedSusan · Yesterday 22:25
Live well within your means and start saving just in case this does not end well.
And tell your DH to do the same, and check your wills. MiL could get worse as she ages. It sounds like an inherently unstable situation which could go lots of ways. You sound as if you are fully aware of all the anomalies, and well pissed off, which will protect your mental health. But the stress of living such a double life must be putting your DH under an unhealthy strain.
Where do you stand if he dies? If he has a bad break down?

His mum made him (and his SIL) write a will to say that all of their assets go to mum in case they die, or in case mum dies with them or before them, then it's split between the siblings and absolutely does not go to the spouse (ie BIL or myself).

Obviously the latest Will is the one that's valid. So days after being made to do this will my husband redid his and it says that it all goes to me, or in the event of my death, to the kids.

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laraitopbanana · 09/12/2024 20:51

MilitantFawcett · 09/12/2024 20:36

Fair point. Models are renowned for their healthy self-esteem after all.

And good eating habits, also no promiscuity at all.

We do have a responsibility bringing up young girls right 😬

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:50

ThisTeaIsBad · 09/12/2024 19:36

Op, I do believe the only answer to this is to develop your own business until you become independently fantastically wealthy then she'd have no power over you.

Meanwhile your only options are to suck it up or don't, and live with the consequences.

Edited

I'd love to build up my own business but with 3 young kids I'm not sure I'm in a position to, I don't want to miss out on key moments of their childhood by spending day and night building up a business and also, the main reason,... i don't exactly have a great idea for a business, otherwise I'd have already started one.

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thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 20:48

LoveHearts69 · 09/12/2024 19:23

“Children are with them in business, I sort of ran back and forth to help the kids or they come to me if they want mummy (the plane crew are never happy about this whole arrangement).”

This is wild! What if you were breastfeeding and so needed the baby with you? Surely the cost of one extra ticket so you can all sit together is a drop in the ocean to her? There’s no way I’d agree to sit apart from my very young kids on a flight and your husband should absolutely be standing up for some of these things.

Edited

This blew my mind too, and the fact that once they reach their holiday destination, OP looks after the children all day and her MIL arranges activities during the evening for herself and OP's DH that never include OP as she has to stay and look after the children once they have gone to bed. She is treated like an unpaid member of staff on the plane and on the holiday.

MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:48

Menopausemayhem · 09/12/2024 19:54

And yet your having your third child with him…

With him, yes. Not with his mum.
Because when it's us 2 or us as a family, without MIL, he treats me well and is an excellent dad to the kids

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MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:47

LookingforMaryPoppins · 09/12/2024 19:59

Your mil uses money to control her family...... more fool them allowing her to do so.

Why do her daughters get a "generous allowance" whilst her son's work for their salary - do they get a generous allowance in addition to what they earn.

Yeah the boys also get a generous allowance on top of their earnings but for both boys and girls a lot of the "allowance" is in the form of gifts, so being gifted a car or kids' private school paid for. That type of thing. But yes there's also cash.

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MumofMiniDivas · 09/12/2024 20:45

LoveHearts69 · 09/12/2024 19:42

I’m intrigued, what does she get you for your birthday/christmas? Did she contribute towards the wedding or honeymoon/were you allowed to fly business on honeymoon? She sounds absolutely unhinged and mean!

Yes she fully paid for the wedding (or more like I contributed 10K, my parents also 10K but that's a drop in the ocean as over 100K was spent on the wedding).
Honeymoon was very nice but not as ott as the wedding - we did fly business class (was paid by him but that means indirectly by MIL)

For Xmas or birthdays she has a habit of gifting stuff that she has new with tags but didn't use. For whatever reason she seems to have a lot of brand new with tags scarves so I've been gifted a few of those, high end perfumes, high end make up ...

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Nikki75 · 09/12/2024 20:44

As your daughters grow and start to take things in .. keep them grounded teach them that the way not to be is like your mil .. ignore her when you feel she baits you she wants a reaction, don't give her what she wants.
Always keep your independence your own friends job etc and keep being you xx

MilitantFawcett · 09/12/2024 20:36

laraitopbanana · 09/12/2024 19:20

But we know that she got lost at some point. Would have that happen wearing Prada?

No women ever gets into any kind of self image issue wearing Prada.

Fact.

Fair point. Models are renowned for their healthy self-esteem after all.

LookingforMaryPoppins · 09/12/2024 19:59

Your mil uses money to control her family...... more fool them allowing her to do so.

Why do her daughters get a "generous allowance" whilst her son's work for their salary - do they get a generous allowance in addition to what they earn.

Menopausemayhem · 09/12/2024 19:54

And yet your having your third child with him…

Iamgettingolderandgrumpier · 09/12/2024 19:50

You have your own house, you’re an accountant who can afford to shop in Zara and Sainsbury’s, you have supportive parents…sorry why are you dancing to this obnoxious woman’s tune? And Your DH needs to grow some balls. Maybe I’m a difficult DIL (think my ILs would agree with that but as DH and I are both no contact with them, that was only their viewpoint.) I would say I’m assertive and no walkover. I would refuse to go to her home, on holiday, dress my children in designer stuff, send them to private school etc etc and, if I’m not going anywhere, nor are my children (so put that in your pipe and smoke it!). I would dress my children in Primark/Asda etc just to p*55 her off. You are comfortably off, you’re well qualified, your DH could get a job elsewhere, maybe less money but state schools aren’t that bad. You’ll have a much better/happier life without all this hassle. As someone has already pointed out, this awful woman could live until she’s 100.

LookingforMaryPoppins · 09/12/2024 19:48

What a vile woman! Sounds to me like she has to buy everyone around her otherwise she would be very much alone.

Your husband's earnings are his - it's nothing to do with her how he spends them. As nice as he may be he really isn't - he shouldn't be allowing you to be treated in this manner - why isn't he paying for you to fly business with the rest of the family.

Your mil is treating you like hired help and your husband is allowing it. He needs to cut the apron strings and stand on his own two feet!

LoveHearts69 · 09/12/2024 19:42

I’m intrigued, what does she get you for your birthday/christmas? Did she contribute towards the wedding or honeymoon/were you allowed to fly business on honeymoon? She sounds absolutely unhinged and mean!

ThisTeaIsBad · 09/12/2024 19:36

Op, I do believe the only answer to this is to develop your own business until you become independently fantastically wealthy then she'd have no power over you.

Meanwhile your only options are to suck it up or don't, and live with the consequences.

LoveHearts69 · 09/12/2024 19:23

“Children are with them in business, I sort of ran back and forth to help the kids or they come to me if they want mummy (the plane crew are never happy about this whole arrangement).”

This is wild! What if you were breastfeeding and so needed the baby with you? Surely the cost of one extra ticket so you can all sit together is a drop in the ocean to her? There’s no way I’d agree to sit apart from my very young kids on a flight and your husband should absolutely be standing up for some of these things.

laraitopbanana · 09/12/2024 19:20

MilitantFawcett · 09/12/2024 19:14

The whole thing about wearing designer to know your worth makes me laugh. Catherine Middleton wears Zara, H&M, M&S, Adidas etc. Michelle Obama famously wore US high street brands. I’m pretty sure both those women have a reasonable sense of their own worth 🤣

But we know that she got lost at some point. Would have that happen wearing Prada?

No women ever gets into any kind of self image issue wearing Prada.

Fact.