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To feel hurt by MIL's condescending comments

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MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 13:32

My husband comes from a much wealthier background than I do. His family takes five holidays a year, went to private schools, and bought each kid a large London property when they turned 25. I went to grammar school, had 1–2 holidays a year, and while my parents helped with a deposit, they didn’t buy me a house outright (and yes I am aware that this is actually quite a privileged position, I am by no means poor but just explaining the contrast).

DH works for the family business, which his mum technically owns but doesn’t really run anymore—she’s basically retired, travels a lot, and leaves it to DH and his siblings. His sisters help out part-time when it suits them (since they’re looking after young kids), but DH and his brother run it full-time.

He’s super careful about what he says to his mum—she’s “always right,” and he avoids any conflict with her. Apparently, that’s just how it’s always been. Part of me thinks it’s also because they’re all a bit financially dependent on her. If she ever cut them out of the will or the business, their lifestyle would take a big hit.

I work part-time and take care of our daughters, who are 4 and 1, and I’m pregnant with our son. Even if I worked full-time, what I’d earn wouldn’t compare to what DH makes or receives from his family. He covers all the main expenses, and my salary is just for personal things like clothes, dinners with friends, or trips to the hairdresser. At home, DH is lovely: he’s hands-on with the kids, helps with chores, and is super thoughtful when it’s just us.

The issue is his mum. She makes comments that aren’t directly rude but feel like digs. For example, she buys our daughters designer clothes and says things like, “Girls should always dress in expensive clothes—it sets the tone for their self-worth and taste,” while I’m standing there in my Zara jumper.

At a family gathering, when people joked about my daughter becoming a vet because she loves animals, MIL said, “That’s such a messy job. Do women even enjoy working? It’s just something you do for money. She’ll have everything she needs—no need to work, especially not a messy job.”

She can also be condescending. When she was talking about her travel plans, she mentioned going to a fancy restaurant with my SIL and added, “I suppose you’ve never been there?” When I said I had, she replied, “Oh, who took you there?”

DH doesn’t really address it, saying it’s just how she is, and bringing it up would cause a big falling out. He tells me to rise above it and not take it personally, but honestly, it’s hard not to when the comments feel so pointed.

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MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:33

@HardlyLikely since having a lot of money can buy you a certain kind of immunity from the consequences of your own unpleasantness

I really agree with this statement in relation to MIL. She often says people need to be put in their place from time to time, "in life you're either pushing others around or get pushed around". She talks about her domestic help quite dismissively and says that she has to "remind them who they are" from time to time. A lot of her "friends" she has weird dynamics with, for example she will say that it's not worth her effort to go see them so if they want the privilege of socialising with her then they must come to hers (and in reality it seems like a lot of her friends are friends with her for the money / she has lent money to them / she "helps them out" but with conditions)

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pizzaHeart · 08/12/2024 14:33

Pumpkincozynights · 08/12/2024 13:41

She is letting you know that you married above your station.
You do benefit from her wealth so it’s up to you how you react. Your dh has made it clear he isn’t prepared to bite the hand that feeds.
I would be very careful about the information I share with her and careful about how much influence she has over your DCs.
Could you go out when she visits as you have an emergency to attend?

This^
also I think your family is being dependent on her financially is really dangerous. I know it sounds like as big word but it’s true. Your DH can afford to contradict her now it will be only worse down the line. I think you need a back up plan long term. I don’t give up your job let your DH pay for little luxuries like cleaner. nursery, clubs.
At the moment I would address all her comments which are instigating wrong values into DC, politely but relentlessly.
In a way I agree with your DH - it’s not personal to you - it’s just how she is, her true colours. I bet she behaves the same way with anyone who has less money than she. Her vet comments was so stupid and old fashioned that it’s unbelievable.

Bohemond23 · 08/12/2024 14:32

Lifestooshort71 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Accept the whole package or none of it unfortunately. Would he get a similar job with the same benefits elsewhere? If not, don't rock the boat.

Agree with this. Be thankful that you don't have to support yourselves.

neverhadnooneever · 08/12/2024 14:30

Horses7 · 08/12/2024 14:23

Big smiles and be extra, extra nice to her knowing that you’re twice the woman she is. Nothing to be gained by crossing her it’s just not worth it. As long as your daughters/son know your values and respect them they’ll be fine.

Twice the woman she is? This woman has built a successful business and has bought her son and daughter in law a house outright and provided her son with highly paid job.

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:29

Bearbookagainandagain · 08/12/2024 13:59

Out of curiosity, if she owns the business did the created it and use to actively run it? Her comments about women working sound weird if that's the case, surely she knows how much work has gone into getting the family business to that level of worth...

Anyhow, if everyone else is otherwise fine, I would ignore. She is a bit of b*tch but the comments you mentioned aren't particularly mean or aggressive either, just stupid and ignorant. I would laugh it off tbh.

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Her husband created it, ran it "with her" ie it was in both of their names, but she didn't have much to do with it as she was raising the children. He died early and left it to MIL. The sons helped out, she was involved when they first inherited but gradually took more and more of a back seat.

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Chonk · 08/12/2024 14:28

VegTrug · 08/12/2024 14:04

I'd put up with that quite happily if I meant my DH covered all expenses and my income was purely pocket money like a teen still living at home! 💷💷💷💷💷💷💷💷💷

OP is primary caregiver to 2 (soon to be 3) children, so not exactly like a teen at home, no.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/12/2024 14:28

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:21

Nowhere near.
His job is a 9-5 most of the time, he is in his early 30s getting what most of our friends will never dream of earning. I say getting rather than earning because his earnings are high but not extortionate (not dissimilar to what my parents earned), but he gets pretty expensive gifts from his mum which subsidise the lifestyle, like a car for a random (non round) birthday, brand new designer clothing, the house obviously, promises of a new house if it's ever needed, tickets to exclusive / expensive events (only for him or children, without me) , children's private school paid for, expensive holidays (but only with his mum, our "family" holidays are nice but more modest in comparison)

So are you excluded from the expensive holidays his mum has paid for as well as the exclusive/expensive events that she provides tickets for?

She sounds like a total bitch tbh.

localnotail · 08/12/2024 14:27

It sounds incredibly annoying but I would just ignore it/ let it wash over you. Partially not to upset your DH's family balance, and partly because there is nothing to be gained by directly standing up to her. Imagine how difficult situation would be if you fall out with her? Is it really worth it?

Ideally, I would try to show her, politely, that she can fuck off with her opinion. I met women before (usually very posh middle class ones, haha) who can make you feel awful while still being super nice and polite. Sadly, this is a talent I dont possess so I would probably keep my mouth shut.

TheignT · 08/12/2024 14:27

mlc0 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Zara is expensive to me. God knows what she'd say about my vinted & charity shop clothes 🤣

I was thinking the same.

StrawberryDream24 · 08/12/2024 14:27

Bearbookagainandagain · 08/12/2024 13:59

Out of curiosity, if she owns the business did the created it and use to actively run it? Her comments about women working sound weird if that's the case, surely she knows how much work has gone into getting the family business to that level of worth...

Anyhow, if everyone else is otherwise fine, I would ignore. She is a bit of b*tch but the comments you mentioned aren't particularly mean or aggressive either, just stupid and ignorant. I would laugh it off tbh.

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Yes, I was wondering that too.

StrawberryDream24 · 08/12/2024 14:26

Do women even enjoy working?

Wow.

Redflagsabounded · 08/12/2024 14:24

I'd stop worrying directly about the silly woman (snobby and sexist) and focus on ensuring her influence on your children is minimised so they grow up with good values.

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:24

Newnameshoos · 08/12/2024 13:44

My in-laws are in a similar situation, and I'm from a family which doesn't have much money. Everything I've got, I worked hard for. As did my grandfather-in-law who built a business from scratch after WW2.
My mil makes similar disparaging comments about me needing to work, not doing my food shop in marks & spencer etc etc.
Over the years I've learned to ignore her, avoid being in a room alone with her, and my other half has thankfully got a different outlook and realises that I work because I like my job and worked hard to qualify etc etc.
I'd develop a similar thick skin and deaf ears if you can do. The important relationship is the one between you and your partner. If that's strong, you can stand firm against her. I'd also make sure you can stand on your own financially and not dependent on your mil.

Ohhh the M&S shopping 😂 if something isn't from M&S or Waitrose or daylesford , or water that isn't bottled, she says that she hopes I'm not giving that to the children, am I?!

Because children couldn't possibly eat food from Sainsbury's

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Horses7 · 08/12/2024 14:23

Big smiles and be extra, extra nice to her knowing that you’re twice the woman she is. Nothing to be gained by crossing her it’s just not worth it. As long as your daughters/son know your values and respect them they’ll be fine.

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 08/12/2024 14:22

A good example of 'money does not equal manners'. You haven't married above your station, please don't think that. After all, they are not landed gentry. They are as 'middle class' as your family, they just happen to have made (seemingly) more than yours.
Sadly, some who have made loadsa money cannot help but think it's ok to belittle those they see as below them. That's rude, but a sign of their imposter syndrome.
Appreciate this doesn't really help; she is unlikely to change. Rise above it and show her that despite your 'impoverished' life, you have manners and know how to behave with others, no matter their 'station'

StockpotSoup · 08/12/2024 14:21

Have some fun with it. When she asks if you’ve ever eaten at La Petit Auberge, reply, “Well, not exactly eaten there - but if you go round the back at closing with a Tupperware, sometimes they’ll take pity on you and give you the scraps”. If she makes comments about the importance of expensive clothes, say, “You’re right there. I found a lovely Marks and Spencer’s coat in a skip and it’s cleaned up a treat! It’s a crying shame what some folk’ll chuck away because of a couple of stains!”

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:21

Lifestooshort71 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Accept the whole package or none of it unfortunately. Would he get a similar job with the same benefits elsewhere? If not, don't rock the boat.

Nowhere near.
His job is a 9-5 most of the time, he is in his early 30s getting what most of our friends will never dream of earning. I say getting rather than earning because his earnings are high but not extortionate (not dissimilar to what my parents earned), but he gets pretty expensive gifts from his mum which subsidise the lifestyle, like a car for a random (non round) birthday, brand new designer clothing, the house obviously, promises of a new house if it's ever needed, tickets to exclusive / expensive events (only for him or children, without me) , children's private school paid for, expensive holidays (but only with his mum, our "family" holidays are nice but more modest in comparison)

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Barbie222 · 08/12/2024 14:20

See her as little as possible. Don't be rude, but say as little as you can to her and show as little interest in her affairs as you can get away with. Being absorbed in your children will work to move the conversation on 99% of the time. (When she's really getting on your nerves, a well placed giggle that you immediately smother and apologise for can feel like a great tonic!)

Spend all the money she gives you. And just be patient!

  • said every woman who married into money I reckon
ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 08/12/2024 14:20

thepariscrimefiles · 08/12/2024 14:18

She sounds insufferably rude and snobbish. If you're not allowed to answer back, could you just see much less of her?

Does she still have control over the business? Would she punish your DH if you said you didn't want to see her any more?

Edited

He’s super careful about what he says to his mum—she’s “always right,” and he avoids any conflict with her. Apparently, that’s just how it’s always been. Part of me thinks it’s also because they’re all a bit financially dependent on her. If she ever cut them out of the will or the business, their lifestyle would take a big hit.

Italiangreyhound · 08/12/2024 14:19

Ignore her, she sounds bat shit crazy and bored.

Just grey rock her and tell your daughters and your son that their worth is not determined by clothing.

PS I aspire to Zara!

thepariscrimefiles · 08/12/2024 14:18

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:12

Well that's... half the point! I'm by no means poor, although the behaviour wouldn't be justified even if I was, but she acts like I'm a beggar, who has never travelled anywhere, and have married her dear son.
She refers to non designer clothes bought by us as "just play clothes" and says to me "surely she wouldn't go anywhere except the park in those?" (this was actually about some Zara kids jeans).

And yes I do love Zara 😄

She sounds insufferably rude and snobbish. If you're not allowed to answer back, could you just see much less of her?

Does she still have control over the business? Would she punish your DH if you said you didn't want to see her any more?

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 08/12/2024 14:16

All those PP saying, 'you're getting the nice lifestyle, so you're not entitled to say anything' - yes, you ARE entitled to say something, OP! You have every right to be offended when you are patronised by this awful woman. And I expect you married your DH because you loved him, not so you could live off him, so the wealth is really by the by.

I think you should make a real effort to inculcate non-materialistic, non-class-based values into your DC and you should also calmly challenge your mother-in-law on these remarks. I would be tempted to point out to her that she appears to know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Hankunamatata · 08/12/2024 14:16

She sound like a snob in every way. Grey rock or tinkerly laugh.

Your husbands learned that he can't change her or her opinions. Your whole income is around a business she is or was directly involved in. You know his views arnt the same as his mother's so just ignore or eye roll

needsomewarmsunshine · 08/12/2024 14:16

Heck, she sounds like Bette Davies the matriach in 'The Anniversary' she was a complete pita, maniputive and wonderfully snippy with her sons and dils. The rod of iron and played her sons like puppets because she had the money and they relied on her.
Great film though,

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:12

mlc0 · 08/12/2024 13:42

Zara is expensive to me. God knows what she'd say about my vinted & charity shop clothes 🤣

Well that's... half the point! I'm by no means poor, although the behaviour wouldn't be justified even if I was, but she acts like I'm a beggar, who has never travelled anywhere, and have married her dear son.
She refers to non designer clothes bought by us as "just play clothes" and says to me "surely she wouldn't go anywhere except the park in those?" (this was actually about some Zara kids jeans).

And yes I do love Zara 😄

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