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To feel hurt by MIL's condescending comments

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MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 13:32

My husband comes from a much wealthier background than I do. His family takes five holidays a year, went to private schools, and bought each kid a large London property when they turned 25. I went to grammar school, had 1–2 holidays a year, and while my parents helped with a deposit, they didn’t buy me a house outright (and yes I am aware that this is actually quite a privileged position, I am by no means poor but just explaining the contrast).

DH works for the family business, which his mum technically owns but doesn’t really run anymore—she’s basically retired, travels a lot, and leaves it to DH and his siblings. His sisters help out part-time when it suits them (since they’re looking after young kids), but DH and his brother run it full-time.

He’s super careful about what he says to his mum—she’s “always right,” and he avoids any conflict with her. Apparently, that’s just how it’s always been. Part of me thinks it’s also because they’re all a bit financially dependent on her. If she ever cut them out of the will or the business, their lifestyle would take a big hit.

I work part-time and take care of our daughters, who are 4 and 1, and I’m pregnant with our son. Even if I worked full-time, what I’d earn wouldn’t compare to what DH makes or receives from his family. He covers all the main expenses, and my salary is just for personal things like clothes, dinners with friends, or trips to the hairdresser. At home, DH is lovely: he’s hands-on with the kids, helps with chores, and is super thoughtful when it’s just us.

The issue is his mum. She makes comments that aren’t directly rude but feel like digs. For example, she buys our daughters designer clothes and says things like, “Girls should always dress in expensive clothes—it sets the tone for their self-worth and taste,” while I’m standing there in my Zara jumper.

At a family gathering, when people joked about my daughter becoming a vet because she loves animals, MIL said, “That’s such a messy job. Do women even enjoy working? It’s just something you do for money. She’ll have everything she needs—no need to work, especially not a messy job.”

She can also be condescending. When she was talking about her travel plans, she mentioned going to a fancy restaurant with my SIL and added, “I suppose you’ve never been there?” When I said I had, she replied, “Oh, who took you there?”

DH doesn’t really address it, saying it’s just how she is, and bringing it up would cause a big falling out. He tells me to rise above it and not take it personally, but honestly, it’s hard not to when the comments feel so pointed.

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AnxietyLevelMax · 08/12/2024 14:59

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:51

@Shinyandnew1 I didn't marry him for the wealth, in fact for the first year there wasn't really much indication of how rich his family is. I met him when we were both young, at uni, he didn't say a huge amount about family, he flat shared (because he wanted "the uni experience"), yes he dressed well but could in theory be wearing what he wore if he was from a well off family but not crazy rich. Afterwards, even when there were clues as to the fact his family has money in the form of me seeing his family house etc, it wasn't spent on "us" as such (which is and was fine, I married him so clearly wasn't bothered) - we didn't go to particularly expensive restaurants, our holidays were 50/50 and very much on a modest budget.

Even now, it's been made clear that the money isn't to be spent on me. The engagement ring is nothing fancy (probably worth less than an average item of clothing in his wardrobe), for the brief period when I was a SAHM and why I went back to work it was made clear to DH that if I'm not working he's not to pay for any of my clothes / products / give me money for seeing friends etc. So yes my children's clothes are paid for, I live in a nice house but if my aim was to be with someone for the financial benefits then really DH is not the choice to go for!

This has changed my views a little to be honest to what i have posted right before your update.

how it was “made clear to your DH” money is not to be spent on you?

i guess he earns and the money he gets is between you two to decide how to be spent. Does he share his money with you? Is he tight?

StrawberrySquash · 08/12/2024 14:58

Find one of those articles featuring an old money type talking about how they love to buy high street (to mix with designer, obviously) and leave it on the coffee table.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 08/12/2024 14:57

Your eldest is 4, and presumably lined up for Granny’s choice of private school? You’d best decide now if this is something you can live with for the next 14 years (minimum) before that happens.

Margot2020 · 08/12/2024 14:56

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:51

@Shinyandnew1 I didn't marry him for the wealth, in fact for the first year there wasn't really much indication of how rich his family is. I met him when we were both young, at uni, he didn't say a huge amount about family, he flat shared (because he wanted "the uni experience"), yes he dressed well but could in theory be wearing what he wore if he was from a well off family but not crazy rich. Afterwards, even when there were clues as to the fact his family has money in the form of me seeing his family house etc, it wasn't spent on "us" as such (which is and was fine, I married him so clearly wasn't bothered) - we didn't go to particularly expensive restaurants, our holidays were 50/50 and very much on a modest budget.

Even now, it's been made clear that the money isn't to be spent on me. The engagement ring is nothing fancy (probably worth less than an average item of clothing in his wardrobe), for the brief period when I was a SAHM and why I went back to work it was made clear to DH that if I'm not working he's not to pay for any of my clothes / products / give me money for seeing friends etc. So yes my children's clothes are paid for, I live in a nice house but if my aim was to be with someone for the financial benefits then really DH is not the choice to go for!

So your husband is an arsehole as well as a drip? What’s in it for you?

AnxietyLevelMax · 08/12/2024 14:51

She sounds exhausting. But….you are in a very fortunate position, it looks like you have a lovely husband and you are both have a great relationship… i would just ignore and try to avoid as much as possible and continue having a life you have

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:51

@Shinyandnew1 I didn't marry him for the wealth, in fact for the first year there wasn't really much indication of how rich his family is. I met him when we were both young, at uni, he didn't say a huge amount about family, he flat shared (because he wanted "the uni experience"), yes he dressed well but could in theory be wearing what he wore if he was from a well off family but not crazy rich. Afterwards, even when there were clues as to the fact his family has money in the form of me seeing his family house etc, it wasn't spent on "us" as such (which is and was fine, I married him so clearly wasn't bothered) - we didn't go to particularly expensive restaurants, our holidays were 50/50 and very much on a modest budget.

Even now, it's been made clear that the money isn't to be spent on me. The engagement ring is nothing fancy (probably worth less than an average item of clothing in his wardrobe), for the brief period when I was a SAHM and why I went back to work it was made clear to DH that if I'm not working he's not to pay for any of my clothes / products / give me money for seeing friends etc. So yes my children's clothes are paid for, I live in a nice house but if my aim was to be with someone for the financial benefits then really DH is not the choice to go for!

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HeadNorth · 08/12/2024 14:51

There is not a lot you can do when your lifestyle is so obviously dependent on her financial largesse - she who pays the piper calls the tune. So you either get a thicker skin or continue to seethe - I don't think there is any other option, unless your DH is prepared to fully cut the financial apron strings.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 08/12/2024 14:49

YANBU to feel hurt.
You would be very, very foolish to show your hurt in any way - unless you are prepared to give up your current lifestyle.
It is very possible DH would fail to take your side over hers - so if you try to 'fight back' in any way you risk losing DH and becoming a single parent.

Don't fight her, don't answer back with smart comments. Just say nothing, swallow your pride, and change the subject.

Or - give your DH an ultimatum and be prepared to leave him and live alone.

BobbyBiscuits · 08/12/2024 14:49

She sounds appalling. And your husband works for her? I'd be terrified.
If it were me I'd just make it clear to my husband that minimal contact is required, due to her quite frankly, snobbish behaviour.
Girls should always wear designer clothes? Or what? They won't find a husband who resembled Mohamed 'al' Fayed?
Honestly I couldn't imagine being married to someone who wanted to be employed by their mother who was a classist snob and sexist cow from hell.

RubicsQuandary · 08/12/2024 14:47

2024onwardsandup · 08/12/2024 13:36

You won’t change her and it sounds like she’s baiting you.

read up on grey rock

Totally this. My MiL used to bait me with bitchy comments. My DH family was totally emeshed in a similar mindset way to what you describe. His parents tried to merge our finances and accommodation but thankfully we didn’t as my family are the total opposite. everywhere we moved was suddenly where they had always wanted to live. In the end my DH sought some counselling advice. We now totally grey rock and for years gave his Mum a bitch rating for her comments on the way home. It worked a treat. Really left her comments with her and one day we realised we had got home without discussing it! She doesn’t bother much any more as I guess she doesn’t get what she used to get from saying those things.
the thought of living in the set up you’ve got makes me feel all itchy on the inside but hopefully his family isn’t as abusive as my DH’s are. He was slapped and punched as a child by his mother until he was old enough to physically stop her.

MounjaroUser · 08/12/2024 14:46

tickets to exclusive / expensive events (only for him or children, without me

That is really nasty. Does he pull her up on that?

What's her own relationship with her MIL like?

Who started the business? Did she ever play an active role in growing it?

You know she'd be critical if you spent her son's money on designer clothes - there is no pleasing that woman.

Does your husband own any shares in the business? I'm worried he doesn't have any security at all.

MayaPinion · 08/12/2024 14:45

My sister has a great approach to people like this: ‘Just be like the queen - smile and wave. Smile and wave’.

You heavily rely on her so unless you want to upset that balance you’ll have to treat her pointed digs like bon mots. What she thinks of you is nothing to do with you and therefore not relevant. Just take her words at face value, don’t try to impress her, and forget her as soon as you leave the room. She wants a reaction. Don’t give it to her.

Newnameshoos · 08/12/2024 14:43

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:24

Ohhh the M&S shopping 😂 if something isn't from M&S or Waitrose or daylesford , or water that isn't bottled, she says that she hopes I'm not giving that to the children, am I?!

Because children couldn't possibly eat food from Sainsbury's

Hahaha my local shop is Aldi!!!

FestiveFruitloop · 08/12/2024 14:43

Grey rock. She sounds like such a terrible snob that nothing will shift her superficial value system, so I wouldn't even waste emotion on it.

ThatTealViewer · 08/12/2024 14:40

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:33

@HardlyLikely since having a lot of money can buy you a certain kind of immunity from the consequences of your own unpleasantness

I really agree with this statement in relation to MIL. She often says people need to be put in their place from time to time, "in life you're either pushing others around or get pushed around". She talks about her domestic help quite dismissively and says that she has to "remind them who they are" from time to time. A lot of her "friends" she has weird dynamics with, for example she will say that it's not worth her effort to go see them so if they want the privilege of socialising with her then they must come to hers (and in reality it seems like a lot of her friends are friends with her for the money / she has lent money to them / she "helps them out" but with conditions)

This is interesting. Does she not have any similarly well off friends? Just the hangers on?

My family is rather well off and would (silently) consider your MIL gauche and arriviste. She sounds like a desperate climber. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this.

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:39

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 08/12/2024 14:05

Presumably this was evident a) before the wedding, b) before baby 1, c) before baby 2 etc.

This is what you chose to marry into.

Tbh not really. Pre marriage she was a bit dismissive in that she didn't want to socialise a huge amount whereas my parents were always keen to have us over for dinner, if we went to stay for a few days we'd plan days out altogether whereas at his house we'd bump into his mum at maybe breakfast then dinner but otherwise she'd do her thing and we'd do ours. He explained that she just likes her space and doesn't want to hang out with us 24/7 - fair enough, people are different even if it did come across a little cold. No digs or mean comments.

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Username10099 · 08/12/2024 14:39

Sounds like you should take your DH's advise, and "rise above it" which it sounds like he's made a life-time of doing this with his DM.
Just swallow it, she sounds really stereotypically awful, but this is the family you married into, so just go with it, and don't make waves. Teach your children well, so they don't turn out either like grovelers or snooty pains in the butt.

Noseybookworm · 08/12/2024 14:38

Just smile and ignore. In the grand scheme of things, you have a very nice life. An irritating MIL who has a completely different outlook is a small price to pay. Don't take it personally - she is a product of her upbringing just as you are.

BlastedPimples · 08/12/2024 14:38

@neverhadnooneever "
Twice the woman she is? This woman has built a successful business and has bought her son and daughter in law a house outright and provided her son with highly paid "

Except she's a cow.

I would value someone who is kind and who doesn't need to make bitchy comments all the time far far more than someone who was wealthy.

Womblewife · 08/12/2024 14:38

She is arrogant and snotty. Leave her to it, have minimal contact and just smile and rise above it. Your finances are enmeshed with her due to dh work, so just grey rock her and think she is embarrassing herself with her stupid over privileged comments.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 08/12/2024 14:37

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:21

Nowhere near.
His job is a 9-5 most of the time, he is in his early 30s getting what most of our friends will never dream of earning. I say getting rather than earning because his earnings are high but not extortionate (not dissimilar to what my parents earned), but he gets pretty expensive gifts from his mum which subsidise the lifestyle, like a car for a random (non round) birthday, brand new designer clothing, the house obviously, promises of a new house if it's ever needed, tickets to exclusive / expensive events (only for him or children, without me) , children's private school paid for, expensive holidays (but only with his mum, our "family" holidays are nice but more modest in comparison)

Again, you’ve chosen a man that can’t/won’t stand up to his mother or step out of the nest. You have chosen for you and your children to benefit from this. It’s a bit rich to be blaming the mother when you’ve happily taken what she will provide without you having to lift a finger.

YellowDaffodilRedTulip · 08/12/2024 14:37

The irony of grammar school, 1-2holidays a year, house deposit, doing a vet degree and Zara jumper.

FigTreeInEurope · 08/12/2024 14:37

Imagine having to effectively buy your friends and family.

MumofMiniDivas · 08/12/2024 14:36

VegTrug · 08/12/2024 14:04

I'd put up with that quite happily if I meant my DH covered all expenses and my income was purely pocket money like a teen still living at home! 💷💷💷💷💷💷💷💷💷

Do teens still living at home have to take care of a toddler whilst their spouse works? Cook meals and do the majority of housework?

Not sure "like a teen living at home" is a good comparison for a woman who is living at home owned by her husband whilst taking care of the children and carrying another child.

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McSpoot · 08/12/2024 14:34

I guess you have to decide if your dignity is worth being a "kept woman"/"kept family".