Can I bring my partners Syrian mum and sisters to the UK?

Kind of hard to get rid of born in citizens. It’s a choice to take in low paid workers from other counties though.

They can be subsidised by all the high paid migrants we also take in?

I very much doubt that in net terms the UK economy is worse off due to its migrants.

Perhaps we should also get rid of all the low paid Brits as well? After all, they are also costing tax payers...

House of Commons economic impact assessment 27.6.23 - cost of accommodating illegals will be 11 billion by 2026
Low paid migrants are an immediate drain on the public purse costing tax payers £150,000 each by retirement age according to the Government tax and spending watchdog.
So when these low paid migrants need care what do we do? Oh I know!

Have you heard if they are OK OP?

I doubt you’ll be able to papers today are mentioning many countries now going to be stopping Syrians claiming asylum and to start removing them due to recent events.

Uk just announced pausing decisions of asylum claims. I doubt any Syrians will be entering unless they have a visa.

@Notaflippinclue wasn’t talking about students coming here for University.
They aren’t being stopped.

Neither of these is a reliable source. The Telegraph is a politically biased newspaper (well, they all are, tbf) and Migrant Watch was established to cut down on the number of immigrants.

We depend on migrant workers to keep many of our essential services going, and the fees from overseas students help massively in funding our higher education system. This isn't an argument for uncontrolled migration, but this constant 'stop migration' push is keeping out essential workers (and these include the lower paid agricultural workers) and is financially crippling our universities.

Op, are you able to say roughly what area their village is? I understand totally if not. If you can, perhaps we could give more targeted advice.

You are being deliberately obtuse.

You are well aware that countries like Lebanon and Turkey who are hosting millions of refugees don’t have the funds or capacity to just “build on land” for them. Turkey suffered a huge earthquake close to the Syrian border last year that devastated infrastructure and killed 50,000 people.

Exactly. There is no way a tourist/visa visit would be approved right now!

According to The Telegraph 12/09/24 low skilled legal migrants cost tax payers £150,000 each.
According to Migration Watch each illegal migrant costs £400,000 over their lifetime, in 2022 illegal migrants cost 1.3 billion so all this we need migrants they are good for our country is absolute gobbledygook

We need immigrants, but we need people who can contribute and those who have the right skills without being a drain on the British taxpayer.

In what way will the millions of Syrian immigrants benefit our country? Most obvious barrier being language. Not many employers are going to employ people who can't speak English and may have limited skill set. What do we do with them while they're learning the language and skills. Where will they be housed?

But they've got more land than we have to build on potentially. We have not. And you do know that it's not about just letting a few in at this point. Open the door, even a little, will prompt potentially other Syrians wanting to come over here. They won't be able to even contribute to society here, with language barriers and lack of relevant skills (because let's be honest, we're talking probably about a large percentage of the refugees having very limited skills) We have enough of a drain on our NHS and housing without bringing more people here. Keir wouldn't even contemplate it. The feelings against immigration at the moment are so strong, that for him to do so would mean a further term in government after this one would not be on the cards for Labour.

That's basically what I said @DowntonFlabbie

Op is probably doing her best to help her partner & his family. She doesn't owe us a reply rn. Hopefully the thread has helped, though the unpleasant comments didn't help.
@BA25. I hope your situation is improving. You shouldn't feel you have to reply now- there is some useful advice here though. The advice to contact the Red Cross is probably one of the best.

Doesn't matter if they lied, there's no chance at all if a Syrian getting a tourist visa to the UK if they family members in the UK. No chance whatsoever.

Yes but if they do this, they have to lie to UK immigration and say they're planning to go back at the end of the 6 months. And so when they make a further application they've already got form for lying to the UK authorities.

I previously worked for UK immigration and this will be an issue. Plus unlikely they'd agree to tourist visas now anyway as this will be such a clear risk.

Op - get your partner to get proper immigration advice - and from legitimate people. There are loads of both scammers and dodgy immigration lawyers who do more harm than good.

It's hard to bring in adults over 18. They have to meet 'the most serious , compassionate circumstances'. The relevant caselaw is still 'K' I believe. A disabled homeless man living on a beach and he still didn't meet the threshold.

I agree that we as a country need immigration. However, uncontrolled immigration can have a destabilizing effect on a country.

With the risk of clogging this thread (sorry op), I must qualify that it appears Turkey doesn’t allow refugees, from some countries at least, to gain citizenship and settle down to build lives there.

Turkish law does not grant refugees the right to settle down and claim asylum in Turkey long term and obtain Turkish citizenship. They can stay indefinitely on their international protection status.

Also, citizens from Syria have a separate asylum procedure known as temporary protection policy. They are not given the option of making an international protection application in Turkey.

https://www.mhd.org.tr/images/yayinlar/MHM-14.pdf

I don’t know who this org is, but it chimes with a couple of programmes I’ve seen on refugees in Turkey. I’m not sure how those who gained citizenship did achieve it, but obviously it is easily enough revoked, or the political atmosphere makes it easy enough to revoke if it was granted.

I read somewhere that lots of refugees in Turkey cannot get citizenship. The idea is they go back from when they came, as soon as they can. Simon Reeves did an interesting programme on the refugee camps. Lots of EU money, not Turkish, funding the camps, but only Turkey’s flag flying. Of course, they think Turkey are providing then with the infrastructure, food, schooling, healthcare.

I don’t know who this article is by, or how dependable it is. However, they say

“Thousands of Syrian refugees in Turkey fear they could be stripped of their Turkish citizenship amid rumours that the process has already happened to 5,000 Syrians.”

“Unconfirmed reports stated that lists of those whose citizenship is due to be withdrawn will be released in the coming days or weeks, and will include multiple nationalities, not just Syrians.”

“While there has been no official word on the claims, the report has sparked fears among Syrians with Turkish nationality amid a wave of anti-refugee sentiment in Turkey.”

“After the current Turkish government was formed following elections in mid-2023, a campaign to deport Syrians has been underway with President Tayyip Erdogan pledging to "voluntarily" return one million Syrian refugees to their country.”

“Syrians represent the largest group of refugees in Turkey and since Erdogan's re-election, tens of thousands have reportedly been forcibly returned to northern Syria.”

https://www.newarab.com/news/thousands-syrians-turkey-fear-citizenship-withdrawal

So, I don’t think it is as simple, or as rosy as Turkey taking in refugees who can get citizenship, and build a forever life there.

Seems a changing situation op I'd wait as just hearing many are returning

The UN have strongly advised them not to return yet. I’m sure they don’t want to be “languishing in a camp” either. But actually 90 per cent are not in camps - they are living within local host communities in neighboring countries in extreme poverty with little access to livelihoods and receiving a pittance through UNHCR. But let’s not let facts get in the way.