Can I bring my partners Syrian mum and sisters to the UK?

& how is that working out in HK, Myanmar, Iran and Afghanistan?

Or even in Syria when Assad used chemical weapons and Russia supported him, using bombs and artillery on unarmed civilians.

Yes mass up risings can happen in countries in days gone by, when the oppressor had a few muskets but not when they have modern weapons of war and use mass terror & misinformation to keep a population down, look at Putins Russia?

I couldn't understand your previous post, hence word salad, you ve done it again, using company instead of "country" maybe re read what you ve written?

Ah I can see you aren’t short of the standard phrases to try and undermine what people are saying when you have no actual argument. . We have moved from “read it in the Daily Mail” to “Word Salad”.

Oh, I understand the situation, I understand that to get a company to a situation where it is safe to live It requires the population to exert its power. In order to do this they need to be there. This has happened in most of the Western world at various stages.

Word salad of nothingness.

As for Syrians going back to rebuild their country, that will depend on the attitude of the men with guns and the almost certain in fighting now between the 5 main armed groups.

You don't appear to understand the situation at all.

@feelingitnow support for Palestine does not mean support for Hamas - it is incredibly insulting to assume they are "foot soldiers for anti-semitism" - people can use their critical faculties to abhor the actions of the Israeli government without being anti-Semitic, and it is this assumption that we cannot criticise Israel without our motives being questioned that stifles debate. Of course anti-Semitism exists and has grown since the current conflict. But there are many of us who see no peaceful future while either Netanyahu's government or Hamas are in power, and are disturbed by our goverment's willingness to keep supporting an increasing out-of-control regime. Yes, you are right that the UK is involved in pretty much every conflict, but not always on the side of an aggressive and repressive regime (post 2011 we did not support Assad, although I agree we came to the conclusion pretty late) and not always as overtly.

And helping Syrians get home so they can rebuild their country should become a priority so that it can be stabilised assp

Ah the good old days “ you must read the Daily Mail” claptrap. Always a sign someone has nothing interesting to say😂

im sure some people were protesting against Assad. I’m sure. Another poster is adamant that there is such a large scale outcry against Israel because our govt supports Israel, yet here you are confirming that there has been support for Assad (I mentioned this before in my response to them). So why no equivalent outcry. It seems there is a very striking variable and it’s clearly not the Wests support for the leadership.

Aasad is gone, the media are celebrating a new Syria. Many Syrians are on the news delighted about the fall of Assad , many Syrians want to go home now to rebuild their country . This is a great event for the Syrians.

Our government, the US government will, in some way be implicated in every way around the world, either overtly or covertly. I’m sure there’s many people with Palestinian flags in their windows who have no idea that they’re being manipulated into being foot soldiers for anti semitism, but they are. Assad was widely welcomed across the West once.

if it’s about our government then why is everything framed about the deaths of women and children? Do they only matter when our Government has some kind of relationship with one party? Do these same people not support Israel more over the Oct 7 attacks because our Government has a relationship with Israel? Were they flooding their Facebooks with Israeli flags on Oct 8?

Claptrap, plenty of people have been campaigning against Assad but were ignored, just because you never read about it in the Mail, doesn't mean it didn't happen.... independent thought? lol!

But Cameron and Obama balked at punishing Assad for using chemical weapons, allowing him free reign and giving the Russians influence, hard to get voices heard when our own government gives tacit support to a mass murderer.

Aside, Asylum cases for Syrians have been halted across europe and the UK, rightly so, most here were fleeing Assad, he has gone.
100s of 1000s of Syrians in Lebanon and Turkey are returning, not sure why we would want supporters of Assad here, if they leave.

Its the Christian Syrians i feel for IF the new regime proves to be intolerant and with so many different factions vying for power, who knows what the future holds.

@gloriagloria

I didn't know.

What I do know is though, your reply is offensive and assuming.

Until today Syrians could claim asylum so were not “illegals” but I’m sure you know that and are just trying to be offensive and provocative.

Your partner needs to stay and help rebuild the country so all those here illegally can return.

I’m certainly not saying antisemitism doesn’t exist, but can you really not see why people are more likely to protest when their own governments are heavily implicated? Your assumption of universal bad faith is incredibly insulting.

They possibly haven’t seen that particular soundbite on social media to cut and paste therefore it’s not reality

I suspect it’s more to do with the fact Assad wasn’t Jewish - there’s a whole group of people who laughingly think of themselves independent thinkers and yet get drawn in and manipulated more easily than Sooty

Have you been to the USA? I would not hold their cities as an example for Britain to follow.

Someone said this was a conspiracy theory uptrend about Trump withdrawing funding for the CIA to meddle in Syria ie their direct funding of Islamist militants there? It was Obama's pet programme to overthrow Assad, and Trump was against it last term. Our pathetic media even managed to report on it in 2017.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/19/donald-trump-drops-syria-programme-in-bid-to-improve-russia-ties

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/world/middleeast/cia-syria-rebel-arm-train-trump.html

Note our media suddenly being flooded with stories now of the evils of Assad. Because the US war machine must always be right. How stupid are people?

This will be because our own Government was not supporting the Assad regime either politically or militarily and he was not supposedly our trusted ally.

Yes, I’ve noticed a distinct lack of Syrian flags being flown by the blue haired nose ring brigade over the Assad regime in recent years.

If this plays out the way it very possibly will, I hope we will be seeing vast numbers out across the towns of the UK protesting about the terrorism being unleashed on Syrian civilians. Strange we didn't see huge protests in all our towns and cities during the monstrous and brutal Assad regime whichi ncludied chemical warfare.
I sincerely hope the good Syrian people - including the minorities - have peace to live, and practise their religions whatever they may be, without fear or repression.

As everything is so unstable, it will be very frightening but at least there are moves for a peaceful transition. Please DO contact the Syrian Orthodox church in this country as they have formal and informal networks that can help with reports on them, getting money etc to them.

St. Thomas Jacobite Syrian Orthodox Church London – "The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep…" (John 10:11)

also SCAN UK

I truly hope there is a peace that can hold there now and that people can rebuild their lives. Best of luck!

I wouldn’t be holding out America as an example of social integration of immigrants.

It’s unlikely they will be allowed into the UK, a lot of the continent of Europe are halting decisions of asylum claims by Syrians. Can they get into a close safe country? Eg Turkey?

I don’t think many careers will become high paid workers despite the worth of the job nor will the many filling our warehouses moving pallets, or the ones working in the car wash or the nail bars, nor will the Uber eats drivers.

Let’s not pretend more are high earners than are. Many are low paid and that’s fine in that we need low paid workers as otherwise you couldn’t have high paid workers. But we don’t need to import loads of low paid workers and pretend they are all doctors and lawyers.

Many of the low paid workers who come here will work their socks off and become high paid workers in time, if given the opportunity.

Immigrants are what made the US the leading country in the world.