Will we get sick?

I don't know whetehr it was you I was replying to before. I think it was in the context of someone saying they last longer in the fridge, and I wondered how they knew - had they kept eggs till the went off both in a fridge and outside?

How much longer? How long do they last in a stable temperature place that's not a fridge and how long do the last in a fridge?

Sorry - i was probably getting confused by another thread where soeone did prescribe ott heat treatment, tongue in cheek.
I'm with you on E coli and Salmonella - the lack of heat resistance of Salmonella was why we were being told to hard boil eggs during the 80s.

@MereDintofPandiculation I think they were being serious as their first reply to the thread was:

VegTrug · Yesterday 23:04
Whilst I agree with your overall point that the eggs will be fine, them being cooked in a hot oven makes zero difference. E-Coli & salmonella is heat resistant. That's why people still get food poisoning from fully cooked food!

I then said:
E coli and salmonella are killed by cooking so I don't know why you are saying they are heat resistant

And their reply was:

VegTrug · Today 01:24
Only if cooked at an EXTREME temperature for over an hour

There's no reason not to. You just don't have to.

I'm not sure why so many people think that it's not ok to keep eggs in the fridge. It's perfectly ok - and actually they last much longer. But it's not necessary.

I don't think the poster was being serious

Reading the major of posts on MN makes me wonder this!

Although it doesn’t apply in this case, cooking something through at a high temperature doesn’t always negate the risk.

Some pathogens cause disease in their own right because they multiply to the point where their number causes us to become ill. Other pathogens create toxic substances which make us ill regardless of whether the organism is still active or not, and those substances tend not to be affected by heat.

Moral of the story - read up a bit about the different pathogens and the methods by which they make us ill.

Not a Science teacher anymore but I did also spend 7 1/2 years working for a poultry processor after I quit teaching.

I've had an off egg a couple of times. But normally they have been duck eggs. And believe me when I tell you when an egg is off you know it without asking anyone's opinion!!! Stench!!!! Directly into the outside bin as you do not want that in the house!!!

🤣🤣 OMG. A hour???

That’s absolute rubbish. Some posters will suffer anxiety now thinking you know what you’re talking about. 🙄

If an egg contains salmonella or e-coil bacteria, cooking it until the yolk is hard and not runny so frying or hard boiling, then it will have killed the bacteria. 🤷🏻‍♀️
I usually cook a hard boiled egg for 10 mins max.

You shouldn’t keep eggs in the fridge. They aren’t in the fridge in supermarkets. You will be fine

No idea why but certain people need something to panic about, sure if they thought logically they would know they don't need too but it is a choice

No you will not get salmonella but you know that, you will direct it to something else

Reading this thread makes me wonder how some people manage to get through life.

Fridges have egg holders because they're also designed for an American market who do need to keep them in the fridge.

As in my sample not being representative...obviously not, but look at this thread. The number of people who keep their eggs in the fridge is significantly lower than those who. If you did a poll in the UK I can almost guarantee you that rhe results would be the same.

Was this piece of information written in 1988 at the height of the "Eggwina" salmonella scandal?

British eggs stamped with the lion brand have been laid by hens that have been vaccinated against salmonella.

British eggs don't need to be refrigerated. They aren't refrigerated in supermarkets.

Have people seen how eggs are displayed in supermarkets?

OP are you the same person who asked about a bit of discolouring on the skin of an onion the other week?

Again, I'm aghast at how little knowledge or common sense people have regarding food

You need go stop reading the DailyMail and similar rubbish!

Eggs are sold in supermarkets on shelves! Not fridges!

Yes, you definitely shouldn't give away your refrigerator when you've posted your eggs.

Of course not.

Eggs sent kept I the fridge

That if we met you would know someone. Just because you've not met someone on your survey of egg location doesn't mean your sample is representative. A lot of fridges have egg holes.

😂😂😂

I don't think it's necessarily generational. DSis and I are both around 50 so Gen X and had exactly the same upbringing by the same post war baby boomer parents, who were of a generation where they could remember times before fridges and use by dates, so needed to use their judgement to decide whether something was safe to eat, plus they couldn't afford to waste good food so if it was good/safe to eat, it was eaten and throwing it away because it had passed a very conservative date or had been out of the fridge for a few hours just wasn't on their radar.

But DSis and I have a very different outlook on life about many things but especially food safety. I can sometimes see DM looking at us and wondering if DSis was switched at birth.

She won't eat anything that's been out of the fridge or even approaching a use by date, let alone past it, yet I'll happily stretch use by dates by a day or two, cut mouldy bits off cheese etc.

As for egg safety information, reliability of what you read and critical thinking skills, I've read the 'lion eggs info' and my take on it is the kitchen cupboard is fine, except perhaps if you have a tiny kitchen with the cupboard above the cooker and massive windows that let loads of sunlight in but is nearly fridge cold at night because otherwise, most kitchen cupboards will be fine.

https://www.egginfo.co.uk/ways-to-cook/general-tips/how-store-eggs

I wouldn't take the above info as telling me that I must or even should keep eggs in the fridge (and even that site says keep them in the box rather than the egg keeper in the fridge). And for the OP reading that eggs 'should be discarded if left out for longer than 2 hours after refrigeration' well that's clearly nonsense that can safely be ignored.

As it happens we don't have the egg storer in our fridge, which is only a few months old, but we wouldn't use it anyway - we go through around 25-30 eggs a week (both usually have 2 a day for breakfast and then other cooking/baking too) so would constantly be fiddling around with boxes (the out of date eggs I referred to in my previous post were some that I'd bought reduced because bizarrely it's illegal in the UK to sell eggs that are less than a week before the use by date so I often use this to my advantage.

What, all Millennials? 😂

I have a friend who's husband is Gen X. He is very much like this. He won't eat things on the bb date, and definitely not after.

I have a Millennial daughter and a Gen Z son, neither of whom are worried about bb dates - because they understand what they mean and are used to me ignoring them.

Surely if millennials think that way, it's because that's what they've seen demonstrated in the home? So it's us Gen Xers to blame?