Does everyone feel like this a lot as they get older?

The thread title is about older women, so we are discussing older women.

Its not ageist to talk about different age groups.

Perhaps she's just irritated by the shallow and ageist nature of the post.

heady mix of grumpiness and anxiety here... 45.

Try to engage with a conversation, instead of insulting people.

I've reported you.

Thats a standard bullying tactic

to call someone else strange and to tell other people to ignore them.

It's textbook.

I'm desperate to hear more about this. I had postpartum thyroiditis (twice) and exactly the symptoms you all describe. Episodes of completely overwhelming emotion that last for days at a time. Intense exhaustion coupled with a frantic need to move around. My tsh eventually normalised but these symptoms never went away.

Over time I came to discount my strong initial intuition that the mood issues were thyroid related. Firstly because I was told that I didn't have thyroid issues any more and second because whilst hyperthyroid I was told categorically that my mood issues couldn't be caused by hyperthyroidism. And also because I was an older mother (40s) and my symptoms overlapped a bit with perimenopause.

However I've been trying HRT for a few years now and I still feel the same, plus hearing more and more testimony from hyperthyroid women, and reading emerging research, I now know the NHS endo was completely wrong about thyroid and mood. So now I'm revisiting the idea and thinking it could be related, or at least something autoimmune (I do have blood markers of inflammation etc).

I'd be so grateful if any of you could tell me more about your experience, how your symptoms came on, whether they went away with treatment etc. Anything really. It's been years now and I'm basically non functional. X

"What the women on this thread are saying".

I'm also a woman on this thread.

We are all sharing our experiences.

It happened to me when i was younger in workplaces.

Now I'm older, I see bullying happen to the younger women in our office.

The prettiest girl in my current office is disliked by some of the older women.

They bitch about her. And her mistakes are not tolerated. Other people's mistakes are tolerated.

I genuinely think that some women being cruel to other women, is a big problem on society.

You also need to appreciate that other people's lives are different to your own.

You seemed to assume that every women has children because you do.

A lot of women don't have or can't have children.

However I genuinely understand that your circumstances are hard, that you are caring for both children and parents.

I genuinely send you a hug and I hope you have a nice December. Do something nice for yourself.

I didn't mean for it to be nasty, but it's what I took from your posts. You're being controversial and captious on purpose from what I can see, therefore if you do that in real life people will bite back.

Perhaps you have been unlucky in women being nasty to you but to say it was because they were angry their looks were fading is laughable.

Take a step back and read what the women are saying on this thread rather than trying to make your voice the loudest.

Take care.

OK @Farimatafa, enough now.
I think you can at least appreciate that some people's lives are very different to your own, and that there is a whole world out there where people can get sick at any age.
I'm not in my 40's, I'm in my 50's, so it's likely my circumstances, and that of many others like me, are nothing that you'd recognise so might struggle to conceptualise.
No point flogging this particular dead horse anymore.

Don't want to derail further, just wanted to say OP, I understand how you feel.
Hoping all the PP's who said it improves are onto something!

I was reading this and at the start i thought

"Wow did someone actually write a nice post on mumsnet".

And then I got to the end. And you wrote something nasty. Do you feel a need to be nasty to others. To feel some power?You had to get a nasty dig at me didn't you.

Your true colours are showing.

@Farimatafa

I remember older women being horrifically cruel to me, when I was in my twenties.

I'm sorry that happened to you. That must have been awful. I'm thankful that wasn't my experience when I was younger nor any of my friends or family so I wonder why it happened to you specifically.

In saying that, you have come across quite prickly in your many posts so it makes me wonder if you maybe get people's backs up in real life too 🤔

Completely agree. I get the rage whenever I am presented with self serve checkouts.

vit d —— life changer

I personally, (40s) don't know anyone that is caring for their parents.

Are your parents sick? My mum is nearly 80, and she can do a lot for herself.

I've only helped her with her banking really. Like I helped her to set up mobile banking on her phone so she could see her accounts.

We only put carers in place when she was recovering from a fall. Now she is recovered, she says that she doesn't need any carers any more.

You may have lost your looks, but you've got a lovely, big, wooden spoon there.

@Farimatafa If you're going to say it's because women are angry about losing their youth and looks (which is ridiculous) then you have to equally say it about older men and why they are so grumpy. Balding, ruddy skin and flabby with no-one wanting to be with them so they are bitter. (Just making shit up like you)
Or it could actually be hormonal on both sides (fact)

The idea that old women are jealous of young pretties... 😂 Only if you think a woman's only value is in her looks.

As the old memento mori has it: 'As you are, I once was; as I am now, so you will be.'

It’s like everything new we start out positive but then dealing with the same shit gets to you .
20/30s it’s ok by time 40s and beyond everyones had enough.
I understand why “elderly” people are grumpy .

I don’t think we should blame perimenopause/menopause best just to say patience for the same old same old has gone.
Own it. .

8 think with age brings confidence to not settle and to say no this don’t good enough .

I’m mid 40s and feel like this. I’ve been on HRT for a few months which has helped other symptoms, but not this. I’m living in hope that an improvement is on the horizon, as it’s still early days.

Haha not quite, like you I'm still quite feisty. Maybe that makes us douce but feisty when required auld wummen?? 😂😂

I used to feel like that, but found taking a vitamin D supplement helps, especially in these very dark days!

Nah, it's just 'cause they're sick of your shit...

😏