Does everyone feel like this a lot as they get older?

I wouldn't even say it was the menopause, I can be quite happy one minute and go from 0 to 100 in a heartbeat if something ticks me off, it's just one of those things I guess!

@Farimatafa you're a lot younger than me! A mere whippersnapper!

I guess on your definition of "younger" I should just lie down and die??

My point still stands that older women aren't often bothered about what people like you think about their looks, we have realised how unimportant that is. Perhaps when you get to that stage you will understand.

I have read the whole thread. I stand by what I said and my interpretation of your posts and how you're coming across.

I was like this. An angry carping misery who positively revelled in my negativity 😅 Picking fault with the world. Hiding my insecurities and lack of progression through nitpicking and bitching about others.

Then, I went blind. And fuck me, that rearranged the old priorities DRASTICALLY. Sure I still feel irritation and a deep (perimenopause) inability to tolerate people's promise breaking/flakiness/self-centred dross/fake friendship/self obsession/lack of even trying to be a good person, etc.

BUT I also gained a deep clarity. We don't have control over anything at all in reality, our lives are miniscule and short. Wasted energy is gone for ever. And so, perhaps love and light really are the best way.

Disclaimer: I still slam doors in a sulk when I blindly walk in to them. I still swear, I still rant in my head. But it takes time to learn a new way. It's worth it though.

Does anyone actually ever read the full thread that they are posting on.

I do.

But looking at this thread, a lot of posters don't.

Read the thread. What younger woman? I said I'm in my forties.

Nope, most of us don't give a shit about our looks when we get older, we have realised it just doesn't matter. We are just relieved to be free of the constant harassment from sleazy men. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to my twenties now.

Mind you, younger women spouting nonsense like this will be pretty annoying and may prompt a well deserved sharp response!

It definitely does happen.

Older women terrorising younger woman.

It's something we need to improve in society. For sure.

I'm no just talking about myself. I've seen ti happen to lots of women.

My niece, 22, who is absolutely beautiful has told me that she wants to leave her job because her older female manager is ruining her life.

Yes i did, but the conversation had moved on and we were talking about something different.

Try to read the whole thread before you comment.

@Farimatafa
Where exactly did I say that every woman, everywhere has children?
Your post is inaccurate. I said 'often' and was trying to kindly explain why your observation was myopic in it's focus. You did a good job of trivialising the very real difficulties that can face us at this stage in life.
I have siblings, family members, friends who have no children, I live in the real world. It's not the issue. It's not central to anything I was saying.
The point that some of us are trying to make, (in response to your attributing 'huge' societal problems to women angry at 'losing their looks'!) is that women often have competing demands placed upon them, which sometimes include children, and sometimes the complexity and nature of these demands increase with age. We can be juggling the care of three generations at once, on top of all the other aspects of life that require our attention.
It's a common experience to many of us, but quite obviously not all.
You fed into an age old, well-worn misogynistic stereotype and extrapolated your own personal experience to describe some sort of (imagined) society-wide scourge of screaming, bitter middle aged women terrorising young women.

Perhaps read back through all your comments.

And you also said that you had been cruelly treated by older women. Perhaps you could reread your posts and remind yourself of what you said.

You mentioned work and social settings where older women were supposedly jealous of your looks. And now you do seem to be getting just a touch angry 🙄

Meditation is great!

That's extremely ironic.

Seeing as the person you replied to, assumed that every woman everywherre has children. Because she has children.

And I had to point out to her that lots of women don't have children.

Christ.

You're not even reading what I'm saying!

Go back and read.

I never said that i encountered hostility from women in a load of different settings. Did i.

Try to follow what people are saying. You rushed to insult me without even reading what I said.

I said that Ive met women in lots of different settings, who said to me that they were upset about getting older and losing their looks. They weren't hostile to me. They were talking about themselves.

Jars and screw top bottles that defy my attempts to open them receive a verbal tirade that would shame a pirate.

Hahaha agree to the clothes catching in door handle thing- makes me full of irrational rage!!

I'm definitely much less optimistic and upbeat than I used to be in my 20s... (now late 30s) which makes me sad. Guess I'm just tired and stressed a lot of the time?! When you have much more time to dedicate to yourself and hobbies, passions etc, you're happier

sigh maybe it will return after the stresses of raising a family but I think a lot of people are like this!

👏

Absolutely ludicrous mindset isn't it? I have never been jealous of ANYone. I find it utterly laughable that anyone would suggest I am jealous of younger 'prettier' women. I'm still pretty ta, and very attractive. (Like MANY women my age - mid to late 50s.)

I know exact how you feel! For me it's especially traffic .. driving it town is a nightmare. Pedestrians who think they can cross in front of you when traffic has just started moving after sitting in a queue and then they get annoyed when I don't stop! 😡

I suspect women like that have very little imagination or the capacity to understand other people's circumstances or barriers.

Meditation has make me calm.

@Farimatafa 😂

If you encountered hostility in a range of settings the common factor might have been you. And I'm not at all sure that it will have been the way you looked.