Passengers sigh when they remove bag off neighbouring seat on PT

If anyone sighs or makes a fuss when asked to move something I always reply with 'oh it's a hard life isn't it?' with a sad face. 🤣

I live near Heathrow & mainly catch the Piccadilly line so there tend to be loads of people with luggage.

If there are people standing & some seats are blocked by suitcases, I often point to them & say loudly ‘There’s a seat here.’

At which point people often magically manage to rearrange their stuff.

Yes thst drives me nuts to @nfg

I always sit in the aisle seat as I need to stretch my legs into the aisle (dicky knees that lock if not exercised when Im sitting). I was always happy someone taking the window seat but I object to those who think I should just move up. These were always men (sorry but they were) and I refused everything instead I asked them to step backwards, stood up and offered them the window seat. One young man who got on at Milton Keynes started tutting everytime he saw me because he wouldnt take the window seat. 🙄

Can't get worked up about sighing. I do roll my eyes at bullies who passive aggressively demand the seat with the bag on it when the train's still half empty though. Never seen one of them challenge a manspreader, it's always women who are targeted.

I had to ask a man to move his rats' travelling-cage off the only seat. He had to put it on the table. There were two rats

• three including him.

It's not fair to leave people to have to ask you. Often the people who need it most will be least comfortable asking you.
As soon as the train is getting at all busy you should move your bags.

My DDs (early 20s) are like this. "Don't say anything mum". However, I'm of an age where I'm no longer passive or shy to say something (politely, not aggressively) if the situation warrants it.

Yes, this. I do the same.

If I get on a busy train I specifically look for seats with bags on because I'm not afraid to ask them to move them.

Fine on a half empty train but if the train is filling up the decent thing is to move the bag before you have to be asked

As a regular train user on an often busy route, I will often deliberately aim for a seat with a bag on, or ask to sit in the window seat where someone has sat in the aisle seat (often on purpose to try and keep the seat free), rather than a proper empty seat.

Just because I can. The huffers make me laugh. I used to apologise for having the audacity to ask to sit where their bag is, but now I just politely say ‘can I sit down please’. Without saying sorry!

The issue is if not moving, I agree.

They sigh even more if you say ' has that paid its ticket then, or what?' and then you ask if they'd like you to put it in the overhead or would they prefer to do it themselves.

I got beyond selfish people on PR years ago.

By sighing they are saying to the person ‘you are inconveniencing me’.
I might put a bag on the seat next to me on a half empty train but never if it was busy. It’s rude.

You won't believe how quickly they swipe their bag back when they see a stranger's bottom getting lowered over it, ready to sit. They don't have time to sigh, either, cheeky buggers.

Are you being an equal opportunities bag move requester though? I only ask as I am a frequent user of public transport and often it is the women with bags being expected to move them while a bloke nearby is left to spread his legs out and take up two seats or leave his bag on a chair while he types on his laptop

In the same vein, children, particularly those still in nappies, should not be in the actual basket of a shopping trolley. That's what the seat bit is for.
Very unhygienic

TBH I never understand why people having to stand on buses won’t ask people to move their bags off seats. I see it a lot. I never feel awkward about asking (politely) and I do get the odd eye-roll, but nobody’s ever refused.

What does really irritate me is how often it’s apparently perfectly fit and mobile young people (nearly always very young women, I’m afraid to say) who plonk themselves in the first available (priority) seats, when there are plenty further back. And given that they typically hop on and off the bus like mountain goats, I don’t believe for a moment that they all have hidden disabilities.

It’s not very polite though eh? And suggests they’re annoyed and sighing is the passive aggressive way to let people know you’re not happy.

Rude and entitled as fuck of them

On the TPE train from York to Huddersfield they have to ask passengers to remove bags off seats when approaching Leeds as loads of people get on there.

I do this if there are free seats elsewhere but some fucker has to sit next to me. I always move my bag if the bus/carriage is getting busy as leaving it there would be unreasonable.

Maybe not you, but many people put their bags on the floor, even if briefly. And it only takes a millisecond to make contact with anything like dog shit, vomit or any other kind of horrible things. People need to keep the bags, like their shoes, off seats which are meant for people to be sitting down on.

Well, yes obviously bags shouldn’t be taking up a seat.

But don’t let a sigh get to you, life’s too short!

The only place my bag is on the floor is indoors, and even if it weren’t the case there’s a world of difference between shoes which are in constant contact and a bag which might very occasionally be put down after checking you’re not going to put it on anything.

That’s quite an extreme comparison (extreme isn’t the right word but I can’t think of the right word)

@RampantIvy She didnt have any problem with a person in the seat - until the person refused to move their coat. And yes, DMum is well aware of hidden disabilities- retired nurse and carer for our cousin with autism.
Plus she sat on the coat, not the person.

But bags are often put on the dirty ground, and then those very same bags get put on a seat meant for people. Given this, what is the difference between dirty shoes and the dirty bag? I think neither should be on the seat.