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Passengers sigh when they remove bag off neighbouring seat on PT

189 replies

nfg · 07/12/2024 05:49

Unless you paid for two seats or have 2 passes for yourself and bag, people should not be using seat next to them for their bag(s)

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Timble · 07/12/2024 12:25

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 12:17

Weird guess, since I've TWICE said that I always move my bag to let people sit. 🤔

As long as I move my bag, it's not my probably that you're all freaked out because I expressed air from my mouth in a way you don't like. Perhaps you could just get over yourself instead?

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Ah so you do sigh when people ask to sit down. Not at all surprised. I couldn’t give a flying piece of shit if someone sighs, but i’m a very nice person and I know many people would find that difficult. So next time someone asks you to move your bag, try and keep the air in your mouth, smile and say ‘of course’.

ElfAndSafetyBored · 07/12/2024 12:23

You could get in first by sighing just before you have to ask them to move something, to indicate you know they are BU first.

Or more sensibly, ignore them and their sighing and know that loads of other people in the carriage are mentally high fiving you.

SuperfluousHen · 07/12/2024 12:20

SleepyHippy3 · 07/12/2024 06:53

But bags are often put on the dirty ground, and then those very same bags get put on a seat meant for people. Given this, what is the difference between dirty shoes and the dirty bag? I think neither should be on the seat.

I never put my bag on dirty ground.

hagchic · 07/12/2024 12:20

I can understand preferring to have a bit of personal space and achieving that through plonking your bag down. There are members of the general public that I would prefer not to sit next to - in fact I would choose to stand instead.

Sadly, it's public transport - so if someone needs a seat you have to move it.

I thinking sighing is fine, and would mostly amuse me as I got comfortable.

People asking you to move your bag when there are lots of double seats available then I would find weird and redirect them to the other seats.

mitogoshigg · 07/12/2024 12:17

I ask people to move their stuff, I've also asked people on national express if they would move so I can sit next to dh - generally on national express people do do cheerfully, whereas on trains they sigh but still do it. It's a non issue on our buses because it's a poorly used rural service, there's always lots of spare seats

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 12:17

Timble · 07/12/2024 12:11

Actually no it’s a problem for a lot of people dealing with rude people who think they deserve two seats on a train, I’m guessing you are probably one of them.

Weird guess, since I've TWICE said that I always move my bag to let people sit. 🤔

As long as I move my bag, it's not my probably that you're all freaked out because I expressed air from my mouth in a way you don't like. Perhaps you could just get over yourself instead?

SuperfluousHen · 07/12/2024 12:16

If there’s plenty of room I usually set my bag on the seat, but if it’s starting to get a little busy I lift it when people get on and if no one sits in it I usually put it back there.

The other day someone got on in the seat behind me and started hammering on the back of my seat- it was easy to just get up and move rather than have a confrontation so that’s what I did.

Thankfully the buses and trains that I travel on very regularly aren’t usually too busy. Bus was packed last night though in the storm and it was grim- every seat taken and people standing in the aisle right up to the driver. He stopped at every stop where more people wanted to get on to tell them the bus was full but there was another one coming 1 minute behind us as we were going to quite an out of the way place and they would have been devastated if he had just blanked them.
Good driver.

OolongTeaDrinker · 07/12/2024 12:14

I do sigh if the person wanting the seat next to me could have had their pick of seats next to someone without shopping on the seat, but are probably choosing to ask me to move my bags to make a point. Obviously on a crowded carriage/bus no-one should even be putting their bags on a seat, but there isn't anything inherently wrong with putting your bag/coat on a seat in general if it's not causing anyone else a problem.

SleepyHippy3 · 07/12/2024 12:14

allthatfalafel · 07/12/2024 11:27

But if you always put your bag on the table then it's never been on the floor.

Not necessarily. I have seen people put bags from the floor up to and onto tables, and she did say that if someone comes along she will move her „”bag to the floor or table….”, so there probably been times where that bag has been both on the floor as well a table.

Wolfpa · 07/12/2024 12:12

I think a lot of people are just blissfully unaware that they have to share the world with other people. It’s like people who insist on taking their dog onto a busy train and letting it sit on a seat. Why would anyone think that was acceptable.

Timble · 07/12/2024 12:11

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 12:10

So, you're annoyed, you're uncomfortable. That's a you problem.

Actually no it’s a problem for a lot of people dealing with rude people who think they deserve two seats on a train, I’m guessing you are probably one of them.

FancyAReallyLongUsernameJustForAChange · 07/12/2024 12:11

They should be removing the bags themselves once the train/bus starts getting full. My personal rule is to move my bag as soon as there are no more empty double seats.

CassandraWebb · 07/12/2024 12:10

FamilyPhoto · 07/12/2024 06:55

@RampantIvy She didnt have any problem with a person in the seat - until the person refused to move their coat. And yes, DMum is well aware of hidden disabilities- retired nurse and carer for our cousin with autism.
Plus she sat on the coat, not the person.

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Presumably she first asked the person to move it?

I used priority seats if needed, I have a hidden disability (unless I bring a stick) and it would very dangerous for me to stand. I don't owe the world an explanation

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 12:10

Timble · 07/12/2024 12:09

I think it’s just unnecessary. A lot of people find it difficult to ask someone to remove a bag, to ask and then the person sighs at you and you then have to sit next to them the whole journey it’s unnecessarily uncomfortable. If someone asks you to move a bag the answer should always be ‘of course’. I am a confident person and will always ask, it would annoy me if someone sighed at me when all I want to do is sit down!!

So, you're annoyed, you're uncomfortable. That's a you problem.

Timble · 07/12/2024 12:09

JingleB · 07/12/2024 11:19

If they are sighing because they’d hoped not to have to sit next to someone but, as the train is now busy, they are a bit disappointed .

It’s a sigh, not a personal attack. I just ignore it and sit down.

I think it’s just unnecessary. A lot of people find it difficult to ask someone to remove a bag, to ask and then the person sighs at you and you then have to sit next to them the whole journey it’s unnecessarily uncomfortable. If someone asks you to move a bag the answer should always be ‘of course’. I am a confident person and will always ask, it would annoy me if someone sighed at me when all I want to do is sit down!!

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 12:08

Looking4wards · 07/12/2024 12:04

When I was in secondary school, we use to have the occasional assembly about how to keep yourself safe. And one piece of advice we (the girls) were given was to put a bag on the seat next to you when you're on the bus to discourage people sitting next to you so you wouldn't be harassed by a guy. That always struck me as not feasible on busy buses but I wonder how many did this.

That's absolutely a reason people do it. I put my bag on the seat next to me on the train. When it gets busier, I remove it when I see someone who seems ok to sit next to, if possible,. generally by letting a woman have the seat. I'd rather not let a man, a seat hogger, a man spreader or a drunk/addict etc have it if I can prevent it.
Neither do.i care what anyone thinks about that

Looking4wards · 07/12/2024 12:04

When I was in secondary school, we use to have the occasional assembly about how to keep yourself safe. And one piece of advice we (the girls) were given was to put a bag on the seat next to you when you're on the bus to discourage people sitting next to you so you wouldn't be harassed by a guy. That always struck me as not feasible on busy buses but I wonder how many did this.

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 07/12/2024 11:51

If they sigh or roll their eyes but move their bag I give them a huge smile and a big thank you. Meet PA with PA.

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 11:41

Duc · 07/12/2024 07:58

It’s not very polite though eh? And suggests they’re annoyed and sighing is the passive aggressive way to let people know you’re not happy.

Rude and entitled as fuck of them

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Since when is it my job to pretend to be happy when I'm not, to make you feel better?
As long as people move their bags to.let others sit, they can sigh or sing jingle bells for all it has to do with you.

FiveFoxes · 07/12/2024 11:40

TorroFerney · 07/12/2024 06:13

Agree. I do it with manspreaders, just sit down in my seat and if their legs are there well tough.

Do you end up sitting on their knee?

Sia8899 · 07/12/2024 11:39

TorroFerney · 07/12/2024 06:13

Agree. I do it with manspreaders, just sit down in my seat and if their legs are there well tough.

Me too, they usually move when they realise I’m happy for our legs to rub together. I asked a male friend recently why men do this, he said it’s uncomfortable to sit with legs together. I realised it’s uncomfortable for me/women too! But as there is often a man taking up 1.5 seats we either fit ourselves into half a seat or we can’t sit down

FiveFoxes · 07/12/2024 11:38

colesr · 07/12/2024 11:08

I just want to say, as someone who cannot ask for a bag to be moved, I really appreciate those who do it when empty seats are still available.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but why can't you ask?

Most people will move their bag if you are hovering next to the seat and the train is busy.

peppeRomia · 07/12/2024 11:38

If I've put my bag on the seat next to me I always move it before people get on at the next station. They shouldn't have to ask for a bag to be moved.

As for the sighs, it's rude, as is 'Get over yourself'.

BlueSkyBeing · 07/12/2024 11:37

JingleB · 07/12/2024 11:19

If they are sighing because they’d hoped not to have to sit next to someone but, as the train is now busy, they are a bit disappointed .

It’s a sigh, not a personal attack. I just ignore it and sit down.

Fine to feel dissapointed. Not fine to show that dissapointment to the OP.

It might be minor but it's still rude and entitled.

Lufannian · 07/12/2024 11:36

I wonder if anyone has ever been able to show a ticket they’ve actually bought for their bag 😂 I bet there are people who will also purchase the seat next to them just so they have the space.

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