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Passengers sigh when they remove bag off neighbouring seat on PT

189 replies

nfg · 07/12/2024 05:49

Unless you paid for two seats or have 2 passes for yourself and bag, people should not be using seat next to them for their bag(s)

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BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:29

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 11:41

Since when is it my job to pretend to be happy when I'm not, to make you feel better?
As long as people move their bags to.let others sit, they can sigh or sing jingle bells for all it has to do with you.

Rude

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:16

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 11:20

That would be very confrontational and I very much doubt you would.
But if you did I'd say, you are obviously. 🤨

Really? Why? They would be the person at fault surely?

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 11:20

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 07:24

If they sighed at me I’d ask them ‘what is your problem?’

That would be very confrontational and I very much doubt you would.
But if you did I'd say, you are obviously. 🤨

Ukrainebaby23 · 09/12/2024 09:07

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 07/12/2024 08:11

In the same vein, children, particularly those still in nappies, should not be in the actual basket of a shopping trolley. That's what the seat bit is for.
Very unhygienic

HRFT yes I agree with you, but at about 2y they aren't sensible enough to shop with you but are too big for the trolley seat, even if you can manoeuvre them in. Faced with the option of carrying said child whilst pushing trolley or plonking him in it, I go for in the trolley. He is actually genuinely comparatively calm but other people ramming him with trollies is unsafe.

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 07:24

Duc · 07/12/2024 07:58

It’s not very polite though eh? And suggests they’re annoyed and sighing is the passive aggressive way to let people know you’re not happy.

Rude and entitled as fuck of them

Edited

If they sighed at me I’d ask them ‘what is your problem?’

conflictedrenter · 09/12/2024 01:02

nfg · 07/12/2024 06:52

I went to the hospital on the bus with a crutch. Still given looks.

People need to understand that disabilities are hidden and injuries that affect walking/standing can happen at all ages.

i was heavily pregnant and commuting on the train to work. Many people made eye contact with me but refused to offer a seat (i was also wearing a badge), Fainted twice too. On my last day of work I remember sending a photo of myself standing to my husband whilst unknowingly in labour. My waters burst the day before but hospital said it was discharge but i went back the next day and indeed they did burst my LO just came a few weeks early. People are just rude nowadays.

JohnTheRevelator · 09/12/2024 00:14

I regularly experience this. I have quite bad mobility issues (rheumatoid and osteoarthritis of hips and knees) so I need to sit down on public transport. On the bus that I use regularly,one of the priority seats is next to the luggage rack, and there is only about 10 inches of space for your legs. I find it extremely uncomfortable not being able to straighten my legs out for a 20 minute journey and avoid sitting in this seat if at all possible. A few weeks ago,I got on the bus and a woman was sitting in the seat behind the seat I've just described,with her handbag on one of the seats. I asked (politely) if she could move her bag so I could sit down. She rolled her eyes,grabbed her handbag,then as I sat down said 'You could have quite easily sat in THAT seat' pointing to the seat in front which I try to avoid. I said 'I didn't want to sit in THAT seat'. She then proceeded to mutter under her breath for the rest of the journey. Honestly. Should I have to justify why I don't want to sit in a particular seat?

Firethehorse · 08/12/2024 23:40

TheOccupier · 07/12/2024 08:41

Can't get worked up about sighing. I do roll my eyes at bullies who passive aggressively demand the seat with the bag on it when the train's still half empty though. Never seen one of them challenge a manspreader, it's always women who are targeted.

A paying passenger who wishes to sit in a specific area of a train is not a bully. Your eye roll is unwarranted. You fancied that area of the train and maybe another passenger also wished to be near the luggage rack, toilet, cafe, door etc.

Polkadotz · 08/12/2024 23:28

Anyotherdude · 08/12/2024 23:17

My handbag doesn’t ever go on any floor except in my house - where the floor is clean! This is a habit I picked up after stashing my shopping bags and handbag on the floor in a cafe, only to find that the previous table occupants had left their baby’s vomit on the floor without clearing it up (this was 30+ years ago). My handbag and other bags have always been kept away from public floors ever since!

Yeah I find it gross when people put their bags on the ground. I haven’t did that since my uni days. But I guess a lot of people do.

Polkadotz · 08/12/2024 23:26

Wolfpa · 07/12/2024 12:12

I think a lot of people are just blissfully unaware that they have to share the world with other people. It’s like people who insist on taking their dog onto a busy train and letting it sit on a seat. Why would anyone think that was acceptable.

I actually think this is more of a problem. I don’t want to sit where someone’s dog has been sitting. I was on a super crowded train once and this man and his huge dog took up most of a 6 seater area, so there was only room for maybe 3 others when there should’ve been space for 5 other humans. Considering how many were standing up it was so rude. I wondered did he really need to travel with his dog at 5:30pm from Liverpool to Manchester.

Anyotherdude · 08/12/2024 23:17

SleepyHippy3 · 07/12/2024 06:53

But bags are often put on the dirty ground, and then those very same bags get put on a seat meant for people. Given this, what is the difference between dirty shoes and the dirty bag? I think neither should be on the seat.

My handbag doesn’t ever go on any floor except in my house - where the floor is clean! This is a habit I picked up after stashing my shopping bags and handbag on the floor in a cafe, only to find that the previous table occupants had left their baby’s vomit on the floor without clearing it up (this was 30+ years ago). My handbag and other bags have always been kept away from public floors ever since!

coxesorangepippin · 08/12/2024 21:37

I know.....as if the bag needs a seat??

Newsflash, humans needs seats

clareken260 · 08/12/2024 21:35

I ask, and say thanks. Only had a problem once with a 20 something child who didn't want to move her bags, who wouldn't acknowledge that they should have been put in the luggage space, and spent the rest of the journey on the phone bi*hing about me. Tbh no f*ks were given.

LeBonBon · 08/12/2024 21:34

My favourite is getting on a fairly empty LNER train in the morning (origin station) with the traffic light system:

Red for booked,
Amber for available until X station and
Green for Free

Getting to my booked seat (which is more often than not surrounded by ambers and an entire green section) and finding someone sat in my seat with all their stuff laid out all over.

I hate having to tell anyone to move first thing in the morning, twice a week, but it always happens. Have had the sorrys, the sighs and the 'fcks sakes'. Learn to read people!!

helpplease01 · 08/12/2024 21:32

No. Who’s gives a fuck if they don’t like moving their bags.

tommyhoundmum · 08/12/2024 21:23

I feel cross when all the isle seats are taken and noone moves to let me sit near a window. So I say quite loudly "would someone move please so I can sit down. Then they all start fidgeting. I am old but probably fitter than most.

noodlebugz · 08/12/2024 20:03

I had to ask politely 3 times for someone to move so I could put my pram in the only space they go. Then she glared it me - so I told her off - saying that I’d asked politely three times, I was blocking the aisle and the bus wasn’t going because we were all waiting for her to move while she was acting like a sulky teenager. She did move, acting like a spoilt baby the whole while but it didn’t need to come to that when there were other seats. I just say it like it is now - I’m done pandering to the feelings of inconsiderate people on public transport. It’s bad enough being forced onto it through no choice due to epilepsy as it is without dealing with total melts.

LakieLady · 08/12/2024 19:35

allthatfalafel · 07/12/2024 11:28

I actually think that public transport needs more storage options.

UK trains should have carriages you can only put bikes and big luggage in like other places have. Buses should have more rack space.

Edited

Trains used to have a guard's van, where you could do exactly that.

When my brother (now 59) was a baby, he had a massive Silver Cross pram and that used to go in the guard's van while we sat in the nearest carriage with my mum holding the baby. And there were station staff that helped get the pram on to the train.

Poppingmad123 · 08/12/2024 18:59

itsgettingweird · 07/12/2024 06:07

If a seats empty I'll put my bag on it.

If someone needs to sit down I'll move it 🤷‍♀️

The issue isn't the plonking of bags in a convenient empty space.

It's the selfish fuckers who refuse to move them when they are needed.

That sounds like you don’t actually move your bag unless asked. Is that right?

If a bus/train etc is clearly busy and lots of people are getting on, no one should have to “ask” you to move your bag. You should realise it for yourself and just do it! Else you actually come across as selfish whether you realise it or not.

Grammarnut · 08/12/2024 18:56

NotMyCircus99 · 07/12/2024 05:53

So? They’re not causing a fuss, just sighing.

They are behaving as though they are being inconvenienced. If you don't like your bag on your knee don't use PT.

JustHoldOnOneMinute · 08/12/2024 18:33

Rosscameasdoody · 08/12/2024 18:20

And how do you know the much younger woman doesn’t have a disability that’s hidden and you’re not aware of ?

The younger women may have had a hidden disability and needed a priority seat. Her coat certainly did not though.

Rosscameasdoody · 08/12/2024 18:20

FamilyPhoto · 07/12/2024 06:48

My DMum sat on a woman's coat .
DMum is in her 80's and said woman was much younger and sat in the priority seat.

And how do you know the much younger woman doesn’t have a disability that’s hidden and you’re not aware of ?

DisabledDemon · 08/12/2024 18:13

QuizzicalPause · 07/12/2024 08:13

Are you being an equal opportunities bag move requester though? I only ask as I am a frequent user of public transport and often it is the women with bags being expected to move them while a bloke nearby is left to spread his legs out and take up two seats or leave his bag on a chair while he types on his laptop

Equal opportunities here. If a bag - any bag - is on a free seat that hasn't been paid for then I am having that seat!

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 08/12/2024 05:55

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 07/12/2024 15:18

Why are they ‘some fucker?’ Why should they sit next to someone else rather than you? People nearly always sit in an empty pair of seats if any are available.

There's ways some fucker who sits next to me rather than two free seats elsewhere. Same people who can see an unoccupied row of 15 cross trainers in the gym but use the one right next to me.

XenoBitch · 07/12/2024 20:24

YANBU to be annoyed at people not moving bags when asked, but YABU to let a sigh have such a big effect on you.

Saying that, I have a friend who asked someone to move their bag, and when they refused, she sat on it 😂

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