Is this feminism?

Yes. This is why I started the thread as I don't understand why women are doing this.

So, as far as I understand, for these particular women they think they're going to make millions out of this on Onlyfans. I guess they think they'll do this and never have to work again. They've absorbed the messaging that this is empowering and are probably dissociating, in the way a lot of prostituted women do, to mentally get through it.

I don't know why the families are "supporting" these women but it's probably because they think they can't stop them and don't want to publicly shame them.

I advocate for safe conditions for sex workers... But let's not fool ourselves.
Sex work wouldn't exist if we weren't in a patriarchal society where men see women's bodies as a commodity to be consumed.

There is nothing inherently feminist about being a sex worker, although you can have feminist ideals and opinions.

A lot of women do the best they can, but pretending it is an empowering career path (presuming no trauma/poverty/trafficking) is deluded.

You're thinking of another woman who does this, I think her name is Bonnie Blue. She's the one who targets Freshers. This woman just wants the men to be over 18.

Oh wow there's more than one. Jesus. I guess this is the inevitable consequence of so many young people growing up on a diet of readily accessible extreme pornography.

This activity is not making the world a better place.

Love Louise Perry, this book is excellent

The 1000 men who partake in this act should be ashamed of themselves

This is not meant to excuse the men doing this but, from what I've read, it sounds like she typically targets uni freshers (i.e. age 18) for these types of things and films it all and puts it online. I think there's a high chance many of these young men will live to regret it and will feel very ashamed of themselves.

i think we need to stop focusing on her and focus on the 1000 men willing to do this to a woman.

I would guess she has been exposed to hard line misogyny, more than the average women, and believes that it’s empowering to have so many men ejaculate inside her. Or she is mentally ill.

Which ever it is, the 1000 men involved should be questioned about their understand of the woman who has consented. They should be asked about their actions perpetuating misogyny and harming all women in society where 1 in 4 woman will be raped in their lifetime.

The 1000 men who partake in this act should be ashamed of themselves.

Feminism is the belief that women and men should have equitable rights.

Using your body for the gratification (ejaculation) of 1000’s of men perpetuates the idea women’s bodies are vessels for male enjoyment.

Is she a feminist? I doubt it when she ‘chooses’ to do this.

Is this an act of feminism? Absolutely not.

An act of feminism would be fighting for a space on a board of directors or working within a charity that lifts women towards equitable status to men.

It's an act of self harm, not feminism.

'Choice' feminism is just capitalism.

This particular thing she’s doing is (obviously) anti-feminist. But that doesn’t mean SHE is not a feminist, as she may still hold feminist aims and values.

Almost all of us do anti-feminist things in our daily lives all the time. But we may still be feminists. This is just a very extreme example.

More useful than questioning whether she/this is feminist is examining what it tells us about men’s attitudes to women that there is an hugely profitable audience for this, and so many willing to participate.

No one who has any sense of self worth or self esteem whatsoever could do this. She is allowing herself to be degraded and treated as an object.

Louise Perry has writes about something called sexual disenchantment in her book "the case against the sexual revolution" and I can't think of a better example of it than this.

@khaitai this 👏

It's very popular among younger generations to think feminism is just about supporting women to do whatever they want. That sex work is work and empowering. I've seen these types of "feminists" talking about this particular woman online and the cognitive dissonance is quite amazing to watch.

Anyone with a deeper reading of feminism knows that no this is obviously not feminist. Feminism is about liberating women, all women, from oppression. In a world where Dominique Pelicots exist, this kind of behaviour is dangerous and degrading not only to this particular woman but to all women.

Feminism is whatever they tell us it is. In the barbie movie getting kidnapped and brainwashed by a global toy corporation was apparently feminist.

So a prostitute cannot be a feminist?

im not convinced

Goodnight

Well, in response to your question: The freedom to choose when and with whom to have sex is feminist, yes. The freedom to enjoy the sex you choose definitely is, and so is the freedom to choose not to have sex you won't enjoy.

Doing sexual activities for the gratification of men rather than your own enjoyment is anti-feminist. It perpetuates male objectification of women as nothing but fuckable bodies.

Getting money for the above does not count as sexual enjoyment. Being paid for sexual activities is the epitome of anti-feminism: it reduces the female self to a product for sexual consumption by men. That is not how feminism sees the female self.

I agree with you OP.

To me it's just playing into the view point, sadly held by vast numbers of men, that women are merely objects to be used.

Feminism is not one way of being a woman. ‘True choice’ ?

I'm not sure that it is feminism - how is shagging 1000 men in 24 hours achieving equality for women? How is it promoting women's rights? Fighting against stereotypes? Improving life for other women?

It's definitely not in my book. I can't see a single feminist thing about it, the whole "my body my choice" thing is a great phrase, but does that trip back up what's happening here - selling yourself for money to be used by men? Is that a true choice? Or is it a tool by men 🤷🏻‍♀️