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Dog at family christmas gathering

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Pippy2022 · 07/12/2024 00:21

I want my kids to join the big family gathering around Christmas time but a new 'big scary' dog will be there (pet of SIL). I can't speak directly to SIL and partner is useless communicator. Shall my kids just go on a separate day and not see rest of family or do I die from anxiety the whole time and pray for the best. Feeling quite annoyed about the whole thing tbh.

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Catza · 10/12/2024 15:48

DecayedStrumpet · 07/12/2024 14:58

Hilarious eye-rolling responses "just ask SIL if the dog is well-behaved"

Has anyone ever met a dog owner who has described their little darling as badly behaved, even the ones with a biting history? "Oh but that was the kid's fault for holding food/walking through the door/making a noise... Rover is a lovely dog really"

If it's a rescue dog SIL won't even know all of its history and who knows how it might react to kid noise or sudden movements.

I am that dog owner. I am quite open about the fact that my dog is not the easiest to train and please allow me a moment to lead her away before you step into my house as she can become overly excited. I am perfectly happy to admit that she is at a risk of absconding so that I will be keeping her on the lead at all times. I am also happy to say that she is a sled dog and is prone to pulling so no, I won't let your kid to walk it. And yes, your child is welcome to come over and stroke her but she is likely to try and give them kisses, so only proceed if you are comfortable with this idea.
All normal things for me to say when I am talking about my dog. There is really no need to paint all dog owners as a-holes who are in love with their "fur babies". My dog is not my baby, she is my dog and I treat her accordingly and give fair warning to others.

Catza · 10/12/2024 15:38

OonaStubbs · 07/12/2024 13:22

Christmas is celebrating the birth of Christ. There are no dogs in the bible.

Is there turkey in the bible? Pigs in blankets? Christmas tree? Christmas carols? Santa?
Do you bring gifts of myrrh and frankincense?

I must say my memories of the bible content are rather rusty but I don't recall any of the things we do for Christmas mentioned in there.

lifebyfaith · 10/12/2024 15:27

Poor dog.

AvidAunt · 10/12/2024 15:21

DecayedStrumpet · 07/12/2024 14:58

Hilarious eye-rolling responses "just ask SIL if the dog is well-behaved"

Has anyone ever met a dog owner who has described their little darling as badly behaved, even the ones with a biting history? "Oh but that was the kid's fault for holding food/walking through the door/making a noise... Rover is a lovely dog really"

If it's a rescue dog SIL won't even know all of its history and who knows how it might react to kid noise or sudden movements.

Yes, a good dog owner is aware of their dog's behavior and doesn't set them up for failure. One of my dogs is undergoing chemo and it makes his behavior unpredictable. My cousin was scheduled to visit with her family, including her 6 year old daughter, and I called and told her that I wasn't comfortable having her child in my home because of my dog's behavior. Most dog owners I know make similar choices to keep both people and their dogs safe and comfortable.

SnoopySantaPaws · 10/12/2024 04:13

Fireworknight · 09/12/2024 21:26

Found the second book to read.

Looks perfect!!

and given how little sleep I'm getting, as complex as I can deal with 🤣

Fireworknight · 09/12/2024 21:26

SnoopySantaPaws · 09/12/2024 13:20

Maybe we should start one!! Maybe ask Santa for a dragon for Christmas!!

1st book How to train your dragon. Free flame proof gloves.

Found the second book to read.

Dog at family christmas gathering
LameBorzoi · 09/12/2024 21:00

KnittyNell · 09/12/2024 13:35

Is it obligatory to like dogs these days?
I’m not keen.

No, but it's a bit daft to not have basic skills / understanding of dog behaviour.

Feelingathomenow · 09/12/2024 20:28

Pippy2022 · 07/12/2024 15:29

I actually like dogs and pet them and I have supported my kids around them on the very rare occasions they have been around them (we dont have friends with dogs) but they still don't like them. I can't force my kids to like dogs.

But dogs are everywhere whether you like it or not. Teaching a child how to behave around animals is the same as teaching them to cross a road, to boil a kettle etc. All life skills that are needed in life.

AlwaysGinPlease · 09/12/2024 20:19

Pippy2022 · 07/12/2024 00:33

Also dog is a rescue dog.

God this pisses me off. Rescue dog isn't a bad thing, not all rescue dogs have issues. Don't go, let them all enjoy the day without your issues.

Daleksatemyshed · 09/12/2024 17:26

You may not agree Op, but if someone hosts a gathering in my eyes they get to set the rules. Your in laws are happy enough for the dog to be there for a few days so you're not going to improve family relations (which sound pretty poor anyway) by telling them the dog can't be there. You clearly feel your DC are being excluded in some way but unless you actually talk to your in laws they won't know that

Calliecarpa · 09/12/2024 16:08

HappyMamma2023 · 09/12/2024 15:26

Are you one of those people who push their dogs round in a pram and call thems their fur baby 🤣
OP's post doesn't say it is an overnight thing just a day time event? I'm sure the dog will be fine by itself for a few hours, and perhaps it may even prefer time alone to rest at home instead of being in a new home and with people and children it hasn't met before. I'm a dog person but if I was the SIL I'd walk it before the event, leave food and water and the radio on and go and enjoy myself knowing I wouldn't have to be monitoring the dog in a new environment with strangers and young kids who are scared of big dogs.

I don't have a dog at all and have never had one, let alone 'push one around in a pram', but cheers for assuming!

CrazyGoatLady · 09/12/2024 15:58

This feels very like OP and partner just don't like the SIL and there's been some kind of historical beef, and want to force a situation where the PIL have to choose between their children/grandchildren, because they want to be the preferred ones.

In families that get along, people can have conversations and compromise. We have dogs, DC are fine with dogs (both autistic and love animals). Their cousin was wary when he was little. They explained it to us, we put the dogs in another room while we all visited PIL for the day, we didn't want to stress DN out. It feels like OP and her DP don't want to find a solution though, they just want to be mad about being "excluded" because they can't possibly be in the same vicinity as a dog, and I'm guessing the PIL aren't likely to banish SIL and her dog from the house over Christmas to suit them.

K0OLA1D · 09/12/2024 15:28

HappyMamma2023 · 09/12/2024 15:26

Are you one of those people who push their dogs round in a pram and call thems their fur baby 🤣
OP's post doesn't say it is an overnight thing just a day time event? I'm sure the dog will be fine by itself for a few hours, and perhaps it may even prefer time alone to rest at home instead of being in a new home and with people and children it hasn't met before. I'm a dog person but if I was the SIL I'd walk it before the event, leave food and water and the radio on and go and enjoy myself knowing I wouldn't have to be monitoring the dog in a new environment with strangers and young kids who are scared of big dogs.

Maybe read the ops posts. The SIL is stopping over. Hence the dog being there.

HappyMamma2023 · 09/12/2024 15:26

Calliecarpa · 07/12/2024 20:41

Why can't they leave the dog at home?

Because leaving a dog on its own for days on end (or even just all day and overnight) while they're staying at someone else's house for Christmas would be horrendously cruel. And because the hosts are obviously perfectly happy for the dog to be in their house. Why shouldn't they be? Why should anyone else get to dictate who or what they're allowed to have in their own house?

It's a dog you haven't met before

Gosh, if only the OP had thought about Christmas arrangements and how it was all going to work out with the dog and her kids during the entire year the SIL has had the dog rather than two weeks before. 🙄

Are you one of those people who push their dogs round in a pram and call thems their fur baby 🤣
OP's post doesn't say it is an overnight thing just a day time event? I'm sure the dog will be fine by itself for a few hours, and perhaps it may even prefer time alone to rest at home instead of being in a new home and with people and children it hasn't met before. I'm a dog person but if I was the SIL I'd walk it before the event, leave food and water and the radio on and go and enjoy myself knowing I wouldn't have to be monitoring the dog in a new environment with strangers and young kids who are scared of big dogs.

K0OLA1D · 09/12/2024 14:14

KnittyNell · 09/12/2024 13:35

Is it obligatory to like dogs these days?
I’m not keen.

Where has anyone said that?

KnittyNell · 09/12/2024 13:35

Is it obligatory to like dogs these days?
I’m not keen.

SnoopySantaPaws · 09/12/2024 13:20

ChristmasDieHard · 08/12/2024 17:59

I would join a bring-your-dragon book club!

Maybe we should start one!! Maybe ask Santa for a dragon for Christmas!!

1st book How to train your dragon. Free flame proof gloves.

changeat50 · 09/12/2024 05:53

Don't go OP.
I have a dog and I understand people don't want dogs around.
I would not go as it seems like you don't have a close relationship anyway. If it was people I really wanted to see the. I would find a way to make it work.

Just make some excuses nearer the time. Migraine etc and then go visit the family when the SIL and dog have gone.

GotToGetDinner · 08/12/2024 23:02

I really think either you or your partner need to talk to your sil about it. Ask for more info on breed and temperament, explain your children are scared etc.. and discuss how you might handle the situation (eg. Could dog be another room when you arrive and then introduce children slowly? Could your sil send a video of the dog so your children can get familiar in advance etc..)

While I do have a little sympathy, I also think you and your partner are adults and should be able to speak to sil. I don't really understand why you can't??

TammyBundleballs · 08/12/2024 22:53

SapphireOpal · 07/12/2024 14:33

What, any dog?

Yes. I can’t stand dogs.

My 2 house rules are no dogs and no smoking. I also avoid visiting other people’s houses where one or both of those are present.

Pawparazzi · 08/12/2024 22:47

Your answer is in your last sentence. Read what you've written. You could have left and found another place to have lunch?

Pawparazzi · 08/12/2024 22:42

If you were coming to my house, and you suggested that, I'd show you the door. My dog lives in my home, you'd be the visitor. If you don't like it, you know where the door is.

Pawparazzi · 08/12/2024 22:36

There are no awful dogs, only awful dog owners.

Pawparazzi · 08/12/2024 22:32

It is ignorant of you to claim the dog is big and scary without knowing whether it IS big and scary! Find out for yourself and make this judgement yourself! Having said that, it is a recipe for disaster to allow your children to be afraid of dogs. There are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners. 'Deed, not breed' is a well worn saying in the dog world. You have allowed the children to feel scared of dogs, so you are responsible for this situation. I would add, that is very well known and widely accepted, that children on the spectrum get on extremely well with dogs- it's as though the dog realises the additional need of the child. At some point, you're going to have to desensitise your children to this irrational fear of dogs- this applies to yourself too. You've encouraged and fed this irrationality, and one day, your children are going to cause a problem when innocently confronted by a dog - in a park, for example. There are lots of humans in my own social circle I wouldn't trust, but I'd trust a dog every day. I don't like people who don't like dogs.

FestiveFelines · 08/12/2024 22:02

So do I but they should be trained and know to how to settle in settings that other people will be in. My dogs react to nothing but it’s not the first time I’ve had to have a word with parents who think it’s appropriate for their little darlings to come and annoy my dogs.

If SIL is staying and her parents are happy with the dog staying it’s a bit rich for you to ask for the dog not to be there @Pippy2022. You say yourself you don’t have much contact with SIL and you don’t know this dog. You’ve described it as “big and scary” no wonder your children have issues around dogs.

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