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Teacher leaving due to bullying SLT

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Teachergoing · 06/12/2024 21:18

I just want to tell people. I have no one to tell.

SLT have been very sneakiky bringing me down over the last few years, and finally I've cracked.
A member of SLT was rude, shouted at me and just generally unprofessional. They blamed me for something they had never told me not to do (something pretty minute with little effect on anything).
I complained about the manner of SLT and was basically told it was all my fault, that I misread the situation because of 'how my brain works' (they know I'm autistic).They invented witnesses and made up stuff.

There's nothing I can do. I can't see how my union could help here. They have 'witnesses' and all SLT just defend each other and back each other up.

So, as I can't imagine working for these people any longer, I'm going to leave ... I will miss the children and my TAs desperately but I cannot stay somewhere I feel has put a target on my head.

I will not be applying for any other teaching jobs. Maybe a TA in the future when I've recovered from this, as currently I'm all over the place.

There, thanks for reading. Just wanted that off my chest.

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Cartwrightandson · 08/12/2024 12:06

CaptainRedbeardandbigbadbarry · 06/12/2024 22:08

What makes SLT like this. I don’t understand. Ours are wonderful.

So sorry this has happened to you 🩷

What tends to happen is good people are bullied out of jobs/roles so only nasty people are left, they climb the greasy pole and become SLT...even if it means they aren't capable or competent, they become SLT/head teachers...things have gotten worse kids behaviour ect/pay/work conditions so teachers leave, they are desperate to keep and retain teachers so they let people who shouldn't be Senior be senior because there is no one else..the irony is, schools are meant to have anti bullying policies but staff are the ones who get bullied

Pancakeflipper · 08/12/2024 11:50

Please leave.
It's not worth your mental health declining because of the SLT culture.

You know you didn't do it. But the SLT member won't retract/back down.

Start putting yourself 1st. Get union advice and get out of there.

You can do supply TA teaching to help financially and take time to rethink.

I'm sorry your school isn't looking after their staff and striving to be a happy positive place to work. This seems to be increasingly the norm.

ItsVeryComplicated · 08/12/2024 11:44

I'm so sorry to hear that this has happened to you. Take care of yourself. I had to take my ASD son out of school and the SLT were vile about it. I don't know what's happened to schools, I really don't .

Vcal2017 · 08/12/2024 11:42

Hey: very similar experience here. In my case the union were unhelpful (private school sector in AU) but there is something about talking it through that helps.
Also, it’s been nearly a year for me, I’ve been emergency (sun) teaching. No meetings, just one day at a time, no pressure, no reports, no parents. If my mental health is low, I dont go. Regular therapy, exercise, water and learning to see it differently. ♥️

mugglewump · 08/12/2024 11:41

I've been there and you have my full sympathy. People are not promoted in education because they are good leaders/people managers (managing a class of kids is completely different to managing colleagues and they just don't get this) and this leads to all sorts of problems. When I was being pushed out, I spoke with my union and could evidence half of what was being said were lies. But then I decided that even if I got the bad judgement recinded, I didn't want to be there anyway. I left and went on supply, initially as a stop gap, but here I am 7 years later still on supply with a thriving tutoring business on the side. Just leave. Do a bit of supply and tutoring whilst you recover from the toxicity of your school and then plan your next step. Good luck!

anotherfinemess1 · 08/12/2024 11:35

Don’t dismiss the possibility of teaching again if you love it. I had a term off with dreadful mental health after bullying by governors and Academy leaders (I was headteacher) and I’m now thriving as deputy head in a very different, and lovely, school. Not all school leaders are cruel!

cantthinkofausername26 · 08/12/2024 11:28

Confusedmeanderings · 06/12/2024 21:23

Oh @Teachergoing you have all my sympathy. It's a horrible situation to be in. If it's any comfort, I left teaching 8 years ago. I had taught for 30 years had never wanted to do anything else and it felt like the end of the world. 8 years on I am really happy, so much more relaxed and enjoying my new life.

This is so great to hear. What do you do now?

cantthinkofausername26 · 08/12/2024 11:27

Unfortunately OP this seems to be a very common way to offload teachers these days. SLT stick together, they have 1000 policies they can refer to for whatever your argument may be. I've learnt its best to just get out. Currently planning my escape.

Abitofalark · 08/12/2024 11:22

Good for you, OP. Tell your story to the union rep and that alone will do you a power of good. It needs to be told. Go with an open mind - ask what are your options, how you can buy time, whether to sign off sick and how much sickness pay you'd get and for how long and whether it would affect your ability to get other jobs e.g.as a supply teacher, whether the union can raise it informally or raise a formal grievance or discrimination case, how to ease yourself out, get a reference that properly reflects your time and service and so on.

DoggoQuestions · 08/12/2024 11:14

Very common. I left a school a few years ago for similar.

Things like:
Head actually arguing about what I was teaching when it was an ultra - prescriptive phonics lesson.
Deputy storming in angrily because I'd supposedly made a mistake, and then conveniently put me on a support plan the next week after I'd shown them the email THEY SENT which said to do what I did. They never did admit their mistake even with written evidence. And I seemed to be the scape goat for absolutely every problem the school had for the rest of the term until I left.

sadlater · 08/12/2024 10:39

Sorry to read this. Schools can be horrible places sometimes.

madaboutpurple · 08/12/2024 10:03

I was just thinking about your situation. If you get a supply job it would give you a chance to see how those schools are run and then you could apply for a full time job. I am wondering if a holiday away could be useful as I think you deserve being looked after for awhile. After Christmas it will be off peak. I know teachers usually can only go away at peak times. I am retired now and I like having holidays at cheaper costs. It might do you some good to think well the rest of the school are having a busy time and you are enjoying yourself.

redwinebluecheese · 08/12/2024 10:00

Find another job OP and move on. If you cannot trust them then that will not change in the months ahead. Get out.

NameChangeForThisThread4 · 08/12/2024 09:58

Can you speak with union quoting Equality Act 2010 as autism is recognised as a disability under it and you are being discriminated against (comment about misreading situation)? Since they are aware of your diagnosis - what reasonable accomodations did they offer and put in place?

Tweensandterribletwos · 08/12/2024 09:55

Teachergoing · 08/12/2024 09:39

In my classroom, unfortunately there isn't any CCTV down that area of school... There are big windows to the corridor though and I could see one person briefly approach the class and then back off when they saw what was happening. So I don't know who these other witnesses are. I certainly didn't see them.

I’m so sorry this is happening to you. The reference to your autism screams disability discrimination to me but it depends how much fight you have in you, if this will impact your mental health negatively in fighting it if they manage to swing it their way, and also how much you need a good reference for whatever you want to do next (which they will hopefully give if you go quietly as they want).

it’s so wrong, and there are good SLT out there, but you have to really look for them! Good luck! ❤️

ilovesooty · 08/12/2024 09:47

Teachergoing · 08/12/2024 08:31

I've decided that I WILL speak to the union, tomorrow. I'm definitely going to leave but I've been looking at my finances and it would be better if I could just hold on a bit longer and save up more of a safety cushion.

It's just so rubbish. Somebody asked up the thread what I actually did, and I don't want give details but basically I was accused by SLT of doing something I didn't actually do. And they've found witnesses to say I did do it. Which is all ridiculous because I know I didn't do it!

I'm afraid I was accused of stuff I didn't do too. I hope your union is supportive. Mine was.

Teachergoing · 08/12/2024 09:41

It's so sad reading everyone's stories in this thread. What is wrong with the leaders in these schools?!

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fgsistwbotp · 08/12/2024 09:39

Definitely talk to your union. They might be able to help.
I know someone who ended up getting a large payout because of SLT bullying.

I was bullied in my NQT year by the parallel class teacher, another teacher who wanted my class instead of covering classes and teaching a specific subject, and the headteacher.
I didn't take it up with my union but I left at the end of the year.
It was hell.
They were constantly doing that thing of not telling me things and then blaming and me and saying "oh dear, you forgot AGAIN".
Until I insisted on a brief meeting each morning, made notes in my notebook and then the parallel class teacher couldn't tell lies about what she had and hadn't said. That was advice I got from the woman who came in from the LEA to observe all NQTs once during the year - she'd read in the notes about me that I'd "regularly forgets to do things she has been told to do".

Teachergoing · 08/12/2024 09:39

Tweensandterribletwos · 08/12/2024 09:22

Whereabouts did this happen? If it was in school surely there is cctv showing no witnesses? Or if it was in a classroom it would show that no one else entered or left that room at the time when it happened. That all depends on whether the footage is still available though.

In my classroom, unfortunately there isn't any CCTV down that area of school... There are big windows to the corridor though and I could see one person briefly approach the class and then back off when they saw what was happening. So I don't know who these other witnesses are. I certainly didn't see them.

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madaboutpurple · 08/12/2024 09:38

I was sorry to hear you are having problems. As an ex Union rep in a different profession I would advise getting in touch with your Union. Thinking ahead would you be able to be a personal tutor or online teacher. Being a supply teacher could be a way forward. If you do go on sickness leave with stress all you have to do when you need your next sick note is advise your doctor that you don't feel any better. It is quite likely he will cover you for say a month or so at a time .All the best and you deserve some time away. Work place bullying is the worst as people should be able to like going into work. Feeling full of dread about it is no way to be .I think it is not acceptable to be bullied by the SLT and you never know other colleagues could well be in the same position .I wish you all the best. It sounds like some time away from the place would do you a world of good..

Tweensandterribletwos · 08/12/2024 09:22

Teachergoing · 06/12/2024 21:46

@MrsHamlet and @Sillysoggysheep

But what about the 'witnesses'. No one will believe that I was shouted at. It was myself and a member of SLT alone in a classroom and these witnesses apparently walked past (I was watching the door and didn't see anyone pass).
It's my word against hers and SLT have gone with her version.

Whereabouts did this happen? If it was in school surely there is cctv showing no witnesses? Or if it was in a classroom it would show that no one else entered or left that room at the time when it happened. That all depends on whether the footage is still available though.

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TheBiggestMuffInCheshire · 08/12/2024 08:51

There are some brilliant Facebook groups re leaving teaching, very supportive.

TheBiggestMuffInCheshire · 08/12/2024 08:48

Teachergoing · 07/12/2024 09:13

How long did you manage to stay off on the sick pay for? I understand that GPs will sign off for two weeks initially, but how do you get them to do it for a long period of time?

It's different with stress lovely.
They understand that mental health takes time to heal and the focus is on wellbeing services these days, rather than a magic pill.
See if they can offer you some talking therapies, CBT is good for getting things straightened out in your head and helping you to formulate a plan to change things.
This takes time. I've known colleagues be off for months but if it gets you into a better frame of mind and helps you to regain your confidence and rehab you back to your role (in a different environment), then it's so worth it.

Teachergoing · 08/12/2024 08:31

I've decided that I WILL speak to the union, tomorrow. I'm definitely going to leave but I've been looking at my finances and it would be better if I could just hold on a bit longer and save up more of a safety cushion.

It's just so rubbish. Somebody asked up the thread what I actually did, and I don't want give details but basically I was accused by SLT of doing something I didn't actually do. And they've found witnesses to say I did do it. Which is all ridiculous because I know I didn't do it!

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