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Freeloading CF school mum- class teacher Christmas gift - private school edition

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FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 20:16

My child is in a small class of 10 at a fee paying prep school - There is no financial assistance available, all parents pay the full fees. I'm the class rep and for the past three years we have been doing a whip round to buy some vouchers for the class teacher for Christmas. £20 per family. Every other parent manages to cough up without numerous reminders – for the past 2 years CF has been too “disorganised” to transfer the funds over but wants the card to be from “year 3”, at this point I've had enough. Mrs CF is notorious amongst the parents for wanting freebies ( can those of us with skills work unpaid for her, lend items ). free lifts and childcare and not reciprocating.

My child came from reception in a a state school where I would be aware of financial and other challenges for families preventing them from contributing to Christmas collections . Is not the case here. I'm off to buy the gift vouchers this weekend - planning to sign it from the other nine children and not from CF’s child - after four reminders - she's on WhatsApp all the time and busy posting in other school related groups I'm fed up of the rest of us subsidising her. Money doesn't appear to be an issue when she's going out for dinner or drinks with the other parents, just when it's time for the class collection year after year.As you can tell I'm not sympathetic. Has anyone else dealt with this and has some tips? Thank you

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DarkAndTwisties · 06/12/2024 23:24

We do something similar in our state school and the mum who organises only puts the names of the children that contributed.

I think it's pathetically petty to go to the faff of writing out 29 names just so you can leave one off, rather than just writing "from year 4" or whatever.

Especially since the teacher probably isn't going to notice, so what's it for? They're just going to see about 30 names, not go through them one by one to check who contributed.

Anotherworrier · 06/12/2024 23:18

BankHolidayReset · 06/12/2024 20:27

We do something similar in our state school and the mum who organises only puts the names of the children that contributed.

That’s pathetic.

sausagepastapot · 06/12/2024 23:17

Parents like you do my absolute head in.

Paddymcpaddy · 06/12/2024 23:16

So basically, you’re all minted - that’s what you’re implying, no? And yet you care about £20 that a parent hasn’t added? And for that you’d leave a child out?
Really does show that having money doesn’t necessarily equal having any class.

Hodge00079 · 06/12/2024 23:13

Only putting nine kids on card seems unfair the one left off.

It would be totally fine if CF said actually I don’t want contribute. So is either a CF or doesn’t want to say she is not comfortable contributing.

Is there an group WhatsApp? If so, perhaps something like not everyone may be comfort grouping together for gift so as of next year you won’t be repeating.

MumChp · 06/12/2024 23:01

We were asked for £20 at reception for end of year gift. I refused. 25 pupils? It's £500 (no TA gift was asked for £15 for her). Way too much.

We bought two presents and cards ourselves. My child's name was on the card from class. Tbh never got why they bothered to.

After that every family fend for themselves at Christmas and summer. I prefer it that way.

Christmaseason · 06/12/2024 22:59

Can’t you just give £180 and say it’s from the nine DC whose parent has contributed?

Next time give everyone a date to pay and don’t send any chase up messages, you are are making more work for yourself.

LemongrassLollipop · 06/12/2024 22:55

Wow this thread is a bit of an eye opener! £200 seems excessive for what should be a token gift.

I have two children at state primary. We do a class collection at Christmas and end of the year. One parent usually organises on the WhatsApp group. Contribution of £5 sent to the mums personal account, she buys vouchers, a personalised online card, maybe a bouquet and if there's an odd amount left over, she buys sweets for the kids. Will split if there's a TA. One teacher told me she doesn't drink so not to buy her alcohol, grateful for the heads up.

If you contribute, your child's name is in the card. No pressure. Some parents prefer not to join in, that's fine.

Works well. No hand wringing etc.

I did it at the end of last summer term. Everyone paid quite quickly. £180ish for a class of 30 split 75/25 between teacher and TA. Lots of lovely messages of thanks for organising. I also got to know some of mums better through it.

Paddymcpaddy · 06/12/2024 22:55

That’s fucking petty. Let all the kids sign the card or have it from the year.
I used to do our class collection, state school, people donated and I got ALL the children to sign regardless of how much the parents put in or not.
Private school, Jesus, is THIS the kind of thing that is important?

Tiredmumofthreekids · 06/12/2024 22:53

StrawberryWater · 06/12/2024 20:34

No offence but I think I’d tell you to get stuffed. £20 per child? No. Far too much.

Also you have no clue what her financial situation is, just because her kid is in private school doesn’t mean she’s not struggling or here’s an idea maybe she just doesn’t want to give that much money.

My son is in private school. I refuse to get involved with the whip rounds. It’s out of control at his school. One year one of his teachers was gifted an entire wardrobe of new clothes, other year one of his teachers was gifted a holiday and then last his year 5 teacher got about a grand in restaurant vouchers.

Edited

there is a bit of a difference between chipping in 20 quid for Xmas vouchers and contributing into new wardrobe. I have 3 DCs in three different private schools (London-based is that matters) and i have never heard of anything like that (overpriced gifts/treats). Also the problem with CF in OPs post is that they dont blankly refuse to contribute but they keep finding the excuses and ask their name to be added to the card associated with the gift.

Hunchbackofnotrespam · 06/12/2024 22:51

Nerdles · 06/12/2024 20:41

I think leaving one child out because of the actions of their parent is cruel and if I was the class teacher I would have a low opinion of the adults who had done this

I'm a teacher in a private school abroad and this happens almost every year - parents club together to buy a (much appreciated) gift, not everybody contributes and only the names of the children whose parents paid in are on the card. I don't judge the parents for this - they don't know if the others are going to buy their own gifts separately. I do, however, make sure I say thank you to all of the children for the lovely present. They usually have no idea which parents have contributed so there are no questions asked. Slightly different situation, granted (usually the non-paying parents haven't responded to requests so the organiser doesn't know whether they have other plans) but I wouldn't judge.

DarkAndTwisties · 06/12/2024 22:51

Our state primary is doing £40 / child. I did think it was quite a bit but didn’t want to be the one complaining when the 30 other families weren’t.

That's absolutely loads. I bet loads of people were hoping someone else would say something first, and would then have agreed it was too much.

twighlightzone · 06/12/2024 22:50

And when I say the teacher will wonder why, she won't be thinking 'oh that family didn't contribute' she'll definitely be thinking 'well that's a bit mean, to leave 1 child out!'

Jeschara · 06/12/2024 22:50

Nerdles · 06/12/2024 20:41

I think leaving one child out because of the actions of their parent is cruel and if I was the class teacher I would have a low opinion of the adults who had done this

I agree, vindictive and disgusting. This is a child we are talking about.
I would have no problem leaving the adults nsme of but not a child. You sound horrible.

TeenLifeMum · 06/12/2024 22:49

DetestTheClockChange · 06/12/2024 22:09

Wow, that's really mean. It's not the kids fault if their parents can't/won't contribute.

We had a class rep organise one year but I’d already purchased gifts for my dc so had no issues with only the names of those who contributed getting their names on the card. We did a separate card.

curlywurlymum · 06/12/2024 22:49

StrawberryWater · 06/12/2024 20:34

No offence but I think I’d tell you to get stuffed. £20 per child? No. Far too much.

Also you have no clue what her financial situation is, just because her kid is in private school doesn’t mean she’s not struggling or here’s an idea maybe she just doesn’t want to give that much money.

My son is in private school. I refuse to get involved with the whip rounds. It’s out of control at his school. One year one of his teachers was gifted an entire wardrobe of new clothes, other year one of his teachers was gifted a holiday and then last his year 5 teacher got about a grand in restaurant vouchers.

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Our state primary is doing £40 / child. I did think it was quite a bit but didn’t want to be the one complaining when the 30 other families weren’t.

twighlightzone · 06/12/2024 22:46

As much as this woman would piss me off, given the picture you've painted, I'd still put the child's name on the card.
It isn't the child's fault and the whole point of the gift is for the teacher to feel appreciated by the children.
She'd probably feel uneasy if she noticed one child had been left out and wonder why they've been forgotten. Which would taint the gift.
I've done work collections for colleagues before and tbh don't notice or care if people don't contribute, I still get everyone to sign the card as it's nice for the person receiving the gift 🤷‍♀️

Elizo · 06/12/2024 22:41

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 06/12/2024 22:39

But it isn’t the child’s fault that the parent hasn’t contributed. I’d feel like a right tool signing a card from 9 children out of a class of 10. It’s incredibly passive aggressive.

Exactly. I did some of these at primary. Put from class. Some didn’t contribute - so what, I wasn’t about to single the children out.

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 06/12/2024 22:40

SometimesCalmPerson · 06/12/2024 22:31

I have been on the receiving end of a class gift that was pointedly signed from 28 students instead of the class, and while we were very appreciative of the gift and the effort that had been made, it did make us question the organisers motives. Whatever it was, it wasn’t just to do a nice thing to say thank you to the people that educate and cared for their children all day, which is supposed to be the idea.

100% this. ⬆️

Elizo · 06/12/2024 22:40

It’s from everyone. It’s just petty otherwise and not fair on the child.. Maybe she thinks it is too much, I think it is way too much…

DrFosterWentToGloucester23 · 06/12/2024 22:39

BankHolidayReset · 06/12/2024 20:27

We do something similar in our state school and the mum who organises only puts the names of the children that contributed.

But it isn’t the child’s fault that the parent hasn’t contributed. I’d feel like a right tool signing a card from 9 children out of a class of 10. It’s incredibly passive aggressive.

Soontobe60 · 06/12/2024 22:39

MJMJMJMJ · 06/12/2024 20:38

The only person you are singling out by excluding their name is a small child.

Hope it makes you proud to be that sort of person.

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No, the small child would be excluded because their mother is an arse.

Merrymess · 06/12/2024 22:37

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 06/12/2024 22:34

I'm certain the teacher would read the messages, but it's a good point about the faff - maybe just ask for messages and stick them in an accompanying card, or tuck them loose into the envelope.

I think most teachers would probably notice the missing name, especially if in a class of 10, although they may not think much about it.

Oh they would think much about it. Which is what the OP wants.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 06/12/2024 22:34

rookiemere · 06/12/2024 20:27

Do this if you want, but I doubt the teacher will work out the subtle message and you are giving yourself a load of extra effort and will make it awkward to spend the vouchers- aren't most of them plastic cards these days anyhow.

I'm certain the teacher would read the messages, but it's a good point about the faff - maybe just ask for messages and stick them in an accompanying card, or tuck them loose into the envelope.

I think most teachers would probably notice the missing name, especially if in a class of 10, although they may not think much about it.

Merrymess · 06/12/2024 22:32

The teachers must eye roll at all the parent contribution politics. They don't like your kid more because you bought them 200 quids worth of JL vouchers.

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