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Freeloading CF school mum- class teacher Christmas gift - private school edition

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FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 20:16

My child is in a small class of 10 at a fee paying prep school - There is no financial assistance available, all parents pay the full fees. I'm the class rep and for the past three years we have been doing a whip round to buy some vouchers for the class teacher for Christmas. £20 per family. Every other parent manages to cough up without numerous reminders – for the past 2 years CF has been too “disorganised” to transfer the funds over but wants the card to be from “year 3”, at this point I've had enough. Mrs CF is notorious amongst the parents for wanting freebies ( can those of us with skills work unpaid for her, lend items ). free lifts and childcare and not reciprocating.

My child came from reception in a a state school where I would be aware of financial and other challenges for families preventing them from contributing to Christmas collections . Is not the case here. I'm off to buy the gift vouchers this weekend - planning to sign it from the other nine children and not from CF’s child - after four reminders - she's on WhatsApp all the time and busy posting in other school related groups I'm fed up of the rest of us subsidising her. Money doesn't appear to be an issue when she's going out for dinner or drinks with the other parents, just when it's time for the class collection year after year.As you can tell I'm not sympathetic. Has anyone else dealt with this and has some tips? Thank you

OP posts:
Conniebygaslight · 06/12/2024 21:11

rookiemere · 06/12/2024 20:27

Do this if you want, but I doubt the teacher will work out the subtle message and you are giving yourself a load of extra effort and will make it awkward to spend the vouchers- aren't most of them plastic cards these days anyhow.

I’d imagine the messages on the back will mean more than the vouchers.

Genevieva · 06/12/2024 21:11

There clearly no good will. Possibly justified, but you never know people’s financial circumstances. Personally, I hate these things. Even in a small class of, say, 12 kids, £240 of vouchers is excessive. If you are doing this then asking for contributions that people can afford is much better. And make it clear people are free to do their own thing. Eg give home made jam, which is what I always did as a child and intended to do before I discovered that I was expected to give vouchers.

BangingOn · 06/12/2024 21:11

We do class collections but just put a link to a Viing on the WhatsApp group- people can join in or not and decide on the amount they want to contribute. At the end of the collection a voucher is sent along with a card with those messages. If people want to do their own thing then it’s fine and no need for chasing everyone, just a couple of reminders of the deadline.

User364837 · 06/12/2024 21:11

Gawd I’m organising the class gift and was just going to put from the whole class. Am I supposed to only put the names of those who have contributed?
also I’d hate to be told how much to put in!

Nerdles · 06/12/2024 21:11

FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 21:06

Would be perfectly happy if she days "we are getting our own gift for teacher" - which happened one year. Just fed up that last year and - seemingly this year- it's about dodging the contribution and expecting me to be too polite to say anything.

No financial abuse - not a history of dodging the bill!

“it's about dodging the contribution”

She’s not the CF in this scenario

SchoolDilemma17 · 06/12/2024 21:10

FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 21:06

Would be perfectly happy if she days "we are getting our own gift for teacher" - which happened one year. Just fed up that last year and - seemingly this year- it's about dodging the contribution and expecting me to be too polite to say anything.

No financial abuse - not a history of dodging the bill!

The contribution is not compulsory is it? She has given you the message loud and clear and you refuse to hear it. Why do you care if she gives a separate gift or not? Just leave it now, you have enough money for a nice voucher.
sounds to me like you are another PTA busy body who thinks school is the centre of everyone’s world.

DollopOfFun · 06/12/2024 21:08

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/12/2024 21:04

I wouldn't expect a child's name on the card if the parents haven't contributed. It makes absolutely no difference to how you feel about the child but it gives a good insight into the parents.

It does yes. If a group of parents left a small child's name off a class gift because a parent hadn't contributed, it would tell me a lot about those parents.

And it would demonstrate that gift is absolutely not about the recipient.

SchoolDilemma17 · 06/12/2024 21:08

Neveragain35 · 06/12/2024 21:06

What kind of insight to the parents? Do you really think the teacher is goi g to judge a parent who doesn’t give them a £20 tip?

I would expect a teacher to be professional at all times no matter what gift they receive or not.

Greengagesnfennel · 06/12/2024 21:08

Hi op, people are giving you a hard time unfairly. I was always very Very grateful to the person who organised the class whip around. I’m sure 99% of class parents are grateful.

I come from a family of primary school teachers (I am not one). They love the personal cards from children, but the 30 x box chocolates/mugs - not so useful. A gift voucher is way better.

You are leaving out no one’s child as far as the teacher is concerned if you don’t say it’s from whole class. As if a teacher thinks the child made the decision not to gift at age 4! Child can still say something nice (even if parent doeasn’t help with card).

The parents who contribute are saying thanks to someone who is nurturing and caring for their precious little one. Teachers know this is a parent not child thing and they will not judge children on it.

SchoolDilemma17 · 06/12/2024 21:07

StrawberryWater · 06/12/2024 20:34

No offence but I think I’d tell you to get stuffed. £20 per child? No. Far too much.

Also you have no clue what her financial situation is, just because her kid is in private school doesn’t mean she’s not struggling or here’s an idea maybe she just doesn’t want to give that much money.

My son is in private school. I refuse to get involved with the whip rounds. It’s out of control at his school. One year one of his teachers was gifted an entire wardrobe of new clothes, other year one of his teachers was gifted a holiday and then last his year 5 teacher got about a grand in restaurant vouchers.

Edited

Agree with this. I don’t get involved in the teacher’s gift giving for my own reasons that are non financial.
Yabu to hound this women over £20. Surely £280 voucher is plenty for the teacher!! Stop making a drama and leave her alone. Don’t you have something better to do.

FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 21:06

Kibble29 · 06/12/2024 21:01

With all the other scenarios being floated about the other parent’s financial situation, if it was a case of being unable to afford £20, why could she not just have said she’ll get the teacher something separately?

I think it’s odds on that she is just trying to dodge the contribution.

Would be perfectly happy if she days "we are getting our own gift for teacher" - which happened one year. Just fed up that last year and - seemingly this year- it's about dodging the contribution and expecting me to be too polite to say anything.

No financial abuse - not a history of dodging the bill!

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Neveragain35 · 06/12/2024 21:06

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/12/2024 21:04

I wouldn't expect a child's name on the card if the parents haven't contributed. It makes absolutely no difference to how you feel about the child but it gives a good insight into the parents.

What kind of insight to the parents? Do you really think the teacher is goi g to judge a parent who doesn’t give them a £20 tip?

Cyclingmummy1 · 06/12/2024 21:04

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/12/2024 20:37

planning to sign it from the other nine children and not from CF’s child

If it's in the children's names I wouldn't. That's horrible. Yes, she's a nobber but that's not her child's fault. In the adult's names? Fine.

I wouldn't expect a child's name on the card if the parents haven't contributed. It makes absolutely no difference to how you feel about the child but it gives a good insight into the parents.

OhshutupSimonyounobhead · 06/12/2024 21:02

JWhipple · 06/12/2024 20:56

So why can't she just say that?
"Money's tight, I spent my bonus on a fat bag of Charlie for our works do, and sorry but you plebs aren't important enough for me to bother with"
Or whatever the reason is.

Why does she need to give a reason, it is a request not a demand.

OP - I think it is terribly petty and mean that you just put the names of the children who have given. I cannot imagine ever acting like this, but then my kids went to state school soooo.

Kibble29 · 06/12/2024 21:01

With all the other scenarios being floated about the other parent’s financial situation, if it was a case of being unable to afford £20, why could she not just have said she’ll get the teacher something separately?

I think it’s odds on that she is just trying to dodge the contribution.

waterrat · 06/12/2024 21:00

This is just loathsome nonsense

Who cares ? Think of all the sadness and misery in this world and you want to leave one child's name off a class card

Get a life.

WhitegreeNcandle · 06/12/2024 20:59

mumedu · 06/12/2024 20:54

No, this is not fair. She's a leech. I say this as a private school parent. You may not want to contribute £15 or £20, but you can do better than a fiver.

This is why I don’t contribute to a class thing. How do you know she can do better than a £5. She might not want to! 20 x £5 is still a decent gift for a teacher. It’s twice a year more than one child and can really add up.

To be fair the OP’s situation sound like the lady is being a bit of a CF but there’s something to be said that these class collections have got out of hand.

5475878237NC · 06/12/2024 20:59

There is absolutely no way a teacher should be allowed to accept £200 in gifts.

Starlightstarbright4 · 06/12/2024 20:59

honestly I think £20 per parent is a ridiculous amount of money for a teacher .

i would put from all class on card and say going forward everyone can do individual gifts

redskydarknight · 06/12/2024 20:58

I've just remembered that the one and only time we had a joint class Christmas gift, the organiser bought a plain paper pad for not much money and all the children filled it with pictures and messages for the teacher.

All this collecting money just to buy a voucher and signing it as from children who had no involvement in it seems a bit cold.

flowersintheatticus · 06/12/2024 20:57

Honestly, this seems really petty and mean towards the child - who you would be excluding - through no fault of his own. She might be a leech, she might have a financially controlling husband, but ultimately it's the child you are punishing here.

mumedu · 06/12/2024 20:57

DancingOctopus · 06/12/2024 20:48

That's awful just putting the names of the children down, whose parents have contributed. What does the organiser hope to achieve by this? It seems particularly meanspirited. Not everyone can afford to contribute to these big collections.
To the OP, £20 is a lot of money to expect for a collection.

But they can give something. £8.

RoseJam · 06/12/2024 20:56

How about saying to the class that as not everyone contributes, everyone can get their own gifts and do their own thing for the teacher? That way you save the stress of chasing and wondering whether to include cf child's name or not and everyone can gift and spend what they like on the teacher's gift.

JWhipple · 06/12/2024 20:56

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 06/12/2024 20:30

Maybe they can’t afford it as they are spending all their money on school fees?
Maybe someone else is paying the school fees and they are struggling financially. You don’t know anyone’s situation and can’t judge. £20 is a lot per child.

So why can't she just say that?
"Money's tight, I spent my bonus on a fat bag of Charlie for our works do, and sorry but you plebs aren't important enough for me to bother with"
Or whatever the reason is.

mumedu · 06/12/2024 20:55

TeaNights · 06/12/2024 20:54

I'd say something like this to the CF mum: Dear CF Mum. I'm sorry I have been pressurising the parents in our class for the last few years to spend a large amount of money because I was prejudiced about the financial situation of private school parents. I really regret that I considered shaming you and your child by making it clear to the teacher that you hadn't contributed to their present. I will stop asking for £20 every Christmas as it is a complete pointless exercise and I'm sure the teacher would be horrified if they knew how stressful it is for some of us.

Ridiculous

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