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Freeloading CF school mum- class teacher Christmas gift - private school edition

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FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 20:16

My child is in a small class of 10 at a fee paying prep school - There is no financial assistance available, all parents pay the full fees. I'm the class rep and for the past three years we have been doing a whip round to buy some vouchers for the class teacher for Christmas. £20 per family. Every other parent manages to cough up without numerous reminders – for the past 2 years CF has been too “disorganised” to transfer the funds over but wants the card to be from “year 3”, at this point I've had enough. Mrs CF is notorious amongst the parents for wanting freebies ( can those of us with skills work unpaid for her, lend items ). free lifts and childcare and not reciprocating.

My child came from reception in a a state school where I would be aware of financial and other challenges for families preventing them from contributing to Christmas collections . Is not the case here. I'm off to buy the gift vouchers this weekend - planning to sign it from the other nine children and not from CF’s child - after four reminders - she's on WhatsApp all the time and busy posting in other school related groups I'm fed up of the rest of us subsidising her. Money doesn't appear to be an issue when she's going out for dinner or drinks with the other parents, just when it's time for the class collection year after year.As you can tell I'm not sympathetic. Has anyone else dealt with this and has some tips? Thank you

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FuckILookLike · 06/12/2024 21:51

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/12/2024 20:37

planning to sign it from the other nine children and not from CF’s child

If it's in the children's names I wouldn't. That's horrible. Yes, she's a nobber but that's not her child's fault. In the adult's names? Fine.

Exactly! The child hasn’t done anything bless them

BruFord · 06/12/2024 21:50

RedOrangeSky · 06/12/2024 21:48

I hate the pressure to contribute to presents like this. Maybe she does too.

@RedOrangeSky Tbh, it would be so much easier if she just told the OP that she wouldn't be contributing. She doesn't need to give a reason!

Glitchymn1 · 06/12/2024 21:50

rookiemere · 06/12/2024 20:27

Do this if you want, but I doubt the teacher will work out the subtle message and you are giving yourself a load of extra effort and will make it awkward to spend the vouchers- aren't most of them plastic cards these days anyhow.

This.
The teacher won’t care.

Makingchocolatecake · 06/12/2024 21:49

CandyCane457 · 06/12/2024 21:48

I’d say they probably would to be fair. If I was a teacher of 10 pupils and I received a personalised message from 9 of them, I’d notice pretty rapidly. I currently have 30 pupils in my class and I would notice if one was missing.

But I wouldn’t think anything less of the child (obviously) I’d pretty rapidly realise that their mum hadn’t put in the collection.

I meant I'd probably notice but think they couldn't afford it rather than couldn't be bothered.

Onlyonekenobe · 06/12/2024 21:49

She shouldn’t be asking for her name to be included. Lots of valid reasons not to contribute, but nobody should take credit for anyone else’s efforts.

RedOrangeSky · 06/12/2024 21:48

I hate the pressure to contribute to presents like this. Maybe she does too.

CandyCane457 · 06/12/2024 21:48

Makingchocolatecake · 06/12/2024 21:46

Yes but would the teacher work out that one parent/child forgot to pay and so wasn't included? Probably not.

I’d say they probably would to be fair. If I was a teacher of 10 pupils and I received a personalised message from 9 of them, I’d notice pretty rapidly. I currently have 30 pupils in my class and I would notice if one was missing.

But I wouldn’t think anything less of the child (obviously) I’d pretty rapidly realise that their mum hadn’t put in the collection.

SpeculativeHoumous · 06/12/2024 21:48

The teacher won't give a crap if you leave one name off they won't even register it so your dastardly plan is pointless but go ahead if it makes you feel better as neither the CF or the teacher give a shit

MermaidMummy06 · 06/12/2024 21:48

I don't understand why teacher gifts have gone so insane & excluding kids is horrific. Imagine how that child would feel - it's not their fault! My friend always forgot, promising to pay for things or turn up, but didn't. I often quietly filled in the gaps because I saw her children's faces. Like mine growing up. It's sucks to be excluded because your parent is too tight or lazy. Be a bit kinder. The child does remember.

But, I refuse to buy teacher gifts. I make a point of thanking their teacher, in person, so they know their efforts have been appreciated. We don't do group gifts. It's a state school & some parents have multiple children at the school & limited funds.

I know I'd prefer positive feedback in my office job than the generic gift & the only feedback is when the boss is unhappy. Lack of recognition is partially why I'm looking for another job.

suburburban · 06/12/2024 21:47

Or some chocolates or box of biscuits

Makingchocolatecake · 06/12/2024 21:46

Partridgewell · 06/12/2024 20:29

I can guarantee that the personalised messages would be read and appreciated by the teacher. I am always grateful for a gift, but some of the messages written for me by kids make me feel better on bad days.

Yes but would the teacher work out that one parent/child forgot to pay and so wasn't included? Probably not.

suburburban · 06/12/2024 21:46

Way too much.

£5 would be my contribution

LaVieestBelleNestCePas · 06/12/2024 21:46

I had one of those parents when my son went to a fee paying primary school. She never paid a bean for the annual tuition. Despite it being a 10th of the annual fee as the rest was subsidised by the French government. Despite that I had the awkward situation of my son and one of hers being very close friends. To give context to all the Mumsnetters wondering if it was a particular difficulty with finances I was told by the head of the parents committee that it was always the same parents that presented such difficulty ( as he discreetly put it). One year I invited her and sons to Xmas. She asked what could she bring… I said ( as what was common in that order of the world.. bring a salad if you’re keen). She did. She brought a salad composed of iceberg lettuce… broken up. In a bowl. And turned up to mine with her boyfriend and three children from her prior marriage. We provided champagne beer wine Turkey ham seafood potatoes bread cheese veggies three different desserts etc. She owned two properties at the time on a teachers salary and as someone who was recently divorced’ after a few years. After that experience I must say my eyes were open that there were some people who simply take the oiss. Hadnt met met type before..

allthatfalafel · 06/12/2024 21:45

Massimoscupofcoffee · 06/12/2024 21:42

How do you know she is rich?

What about women whose ex husbands pay for the fees and refuse to pay fuck all else?

If you read the post it says she can afford to spend plenty on dinners and drinks out.

allthatfalafel · 06/12/2024 21:44

Ohtonightyoukilledmewithyoureyes · 06/12/2024 20:40

I don’t get this, can’t parents buy their own individual presents to the teacher anymore
A voucher seems a bit 😬
I’m a teacher and used to adore receiving all the personal gifts

used to adore? until you couldn't open your front door because your house was swamped with "world's best teacher" mugs?

AltitudeCheck · 06/12/2024 21:44

There was another thread recently where a mum was asking harassing a work colleague for a donation to her kids holiday overseas volunteering. The OP had ignored several messages 'reminding' her she hadn't donated yet and was getting rather pissed off that she was still being asked when she really didn't want to contribute.

Is it possible your school mum actually doesn't want to give you £20 and just hasn't been direct enough for you to have got the message? In future, I would ask once, remind once (with a firm deadline) and then leave it.

CandyCane457 · 06/12/2024 21:42

If £20 is too much for her, she should just say she’s going to sort her own gift, instead of keep fobbing you off and messing you about and making you text her repeatedly. No excuse for that.

Massimoscupofcoffee · 06/12/2024 21:42

BlushingBrightly · 06/12/2024 21:34

you never know people’s financial circumstances

Except that if their child is at a private school, and you know how much that costs because yours is there too, then you know they can afford to spend that amount on something that's a luxury not a necessity. Leave off all the 'what if she has poor memory syndrome and can't remember to make the payment' blather. This is someone who thinks they can get away without paying but still wants the credit. Don't make them into the victim here. They're not and it's incredibly naive to think otherwise. Rich people can be stingy too.

How do you know she is rich?

What about women whose ex husbands pay for the fees and refuse to pay fuck all else?

Viviennemary · 06/12/2024 21:42

StrawberryWater · 06/12/2024 20:34

No offence but I think I’d tell you to get stuffed. £20 per child? No. Far too much.

Also you have no clue what her financial situation is, just because her kid is in private school doesn’t mean she’s not struggling or here’s an idea maybe she just doesn’t want to give that much money.

My son is in private school. I refuse to get involved with the whip rounds. It’s out of control at his school. One year one of his teachers was gifted an entire wardrobe of new clothes, other year one of his teachers was gifted a holiday and then last his year 5 teacher got about a grand in restaurant vouchers.

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Yes it's far too much. But if you are all so well off it shouldn't be a problem for the rest of you to make up the difference.

Massimoscupofcoffee · 06/12/2024 21:39

Merrymess · 06/12/2024 21:36

200 quid for a teacher is excessive. Is it to show how incredibly rich you all are? I'd be embarrassed to receive that much as a teacher.

Yes it is excessive but most times there is a T.A in there too. It becomes an issue when you have multiple kids in the school and office staff are included too.

ichundich · 06/12/2024 21:38

Private school or not, £20 is a lot and I wouldn't want to spend that much on a teacher gift. But she should just say that she's doing her own thing / doesn't want to contribute because of xyz.

FedUpOFTightCF · 06/12/2024 21:38

She's stingy.
Had me run an event for her - said I'd be happy to do it - just get me a bottle of wine as a thanks - and I was happy to do it but - 4 hours of my time plus prep - never did receive that bottle of wine...I'd saved her £200 to pay for the service - she couldn't manage a £10 bottle of Prosecco - no good deed goes unpunished...

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Massimoscupofcoffee · 06/12/2024 21:37

In reality OP your going to quietly seeth and not omit her kids name as it’s just not the done thing at a prep school as most mums couldn’t give a flying fuck.

and yeah the other mum’s will judge you for doing it - have you asked them how they would feel if you did that?

She most likely has the watsap group on silent as they are annoying

Merrymess · 06/12/2024 21:36

200 quid for a teacher is excessive. Is it to show how incredibly rich you all are? I'd be embarrassed to receive that much as a teacher.

BlushingBrightly · 06/12/2024 21:34

you never know people’s financial circumstances

Except that if their child is at a private school, and you know how much that costs because yours is there too, then you know they can afford to spend that amount on something that's a luxury not a necessity. Leave off all the 'what if she has poor memory syndrome and can't remember to make the payment' blather. This is someone who thinks they can get away without paying but still wants the credit. Don't make them into the victim here. They're not and it's incredibly naive to think otherwise. Rich people can be stingy too.

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