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CF Stole my hedge

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12FreeRangeEggs · 06/12/2024 18:09

We live in a naice part of London which thinks it’s the countryside but is actually just a green suburb. To the side and front of my property is our hedge. It’s a mix hedge; Holly, Ivy and other trees. Our Holly has been very good this autumn and we have lots of red berries. I make a door wreath for my front door each Christmas, and I usually forage from my own hedge to make my wreath. So far this year I haven’t gotten around to it but was hoping to make my wreath this weekend.

Well, I returned this afternoon and there was a lady stood on my driveway with a large blue IKEA bag in one hand and a pair of pruners in the other, helping herself to my holly.

I politely challenged her, but she didn’t seem to think that she was doing anything wrong helping herself to my Holly in my hedge. Infact when I protested that I was going to make my own wreath with my own Holly she told me she had a business making Christmas wreaths and usually only made 10 a season despite huge demand because she simply doesn’t have the time but was willing to make a professional wreath for me using my own Holly and charge me £85. I, less politely this time, declined her offer for a professional wreath and asked for my Holly back. She refused and accused me of being bitter and uncharitable.

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MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 13:48

Dear lord. How can folks get so agitated about some sprigs of holly during the season of Goodwill?
Perhaps the Wassail Cup should be shared around once more, to help good cheer!

TheBluntTurtle · 07/12/2024 13:47

She is stealing. I really hate when folk do this - as well as taking cuttings from all the trees/ bushes in parks and nature reserves. Generally rule for parks/ public open spaces is if it is on the floor you can forage but you can’t be taking your loppers and hacking off all the Holly and ivy otherwise there will be none left!
plus as she is operating a commercial business by selling the wreaths it is actually illegal to forage on nature reserves and then sell the products without permission from natural England and the landowner. OP if you do find her details - see if the common and woodland are designated as SSSI, ancient woodland or local nature reserve (Google magic maps and this will show you) and then dob her in to the landowner and natural England - they probably can’t do anything now as you don’t have photos of her taking the vegetation from the common/ woodland but they probably will scare her with a warning letter.
for your own bush maybe the only thing you can do is put up a sign stating no foraging and that there is a camera (even if there isn’t) - far from ideal though.

MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 13:46

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LookItsMeAgain · 07/12/2024 13:41

I'm sorry - she dug her heels in even further and refused to give you back your holly??

If I had noticed her cutting holly from a plant that was clearly in my garden, I would have taken out my mobile phone and started recording her and her antics. Then depending on how she dealt with the situation, it would have gone straight up to social media or straight to the local police!

JaninaDuszejko · 07/12/2024 13:39

I'd still contact the police (on 101) and let them know who did it and explain that although you've got your cuttings back you thought it better be recorded in case someone else has plants stolen.

I maybe live somewhere less crime ridden than London but we had an issue with milk bottles being stolen. Neighbours reported it to the police and when the perpetrator was caught it turned out he had committed several crimes previously and since the milk was the third he ended up in prison. So even though it may seem minor to the CF wreath baker others on here the police will act on it.

Fraaahnces · 07/12/2024 13:30

Looks like you’re going to have to make your own wreath. Would be a pity to waste it. Wonder if there are any nearby courses so that you can learn how?

ANonEMouseYouSir · 07/12/2024 13:28

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HazelTiger · 07/12/2024 13:25

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Lordy me, the dull squad are busy today

Talkinpeace · 07/12/2024 13:19

12FreeRangeEggs · 06/12/2024 18:24

She left with the Holly and me shouting “excuse me, that’s my holly”. Her argument for not turning over the Holly was that she had foraged a lot from the neighbouring common and wooded area and she didn’t know what was mine and what was from the common.

Which is also illegal

Flossflower · 07/12/2024 13:19

OP, are you sure she just hasn’t taken the best bits and returned what she doesn’t want?

MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 13:09

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😂

BitOutOfPractice · 07/12/2024 13:04

@ANonEMouseYouSir i have no idea why that word popped into my head. I’ve not used it for at least 30 years. Seemed apt though 😬

HazelTiger · 07/12/2024 13:03

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MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 13:02

I'm going to question whether dumping some holly on a person's drive constitutes "fly tipping"?

ANonEMouseYouSir · 07/12/2024 13:01

BitOutOfPractice · 07/12/2024 11:36

@Havalona you accuse people of being "So over the top with reactions" and yet you are "falling around in stitches of laughter"? You see no irony? You will, however, be relieved to hear that I merely rolled my eyes in an understated way at your tomfoolery.

OP, I cannot believe this woman's brass neck - especially when challenged. CFery indeed.

Anyone who uses the fantastic word "tomfoolery" needs a quote. Just love that word.

@12FreeRangeEggs so you can get them done for thieving AND flytipping now 😁! Cheeker beggers.

lineylines · 07/12/2024 12:54

12FreeRangeEggs · 06/12/2024 23:22

Errr I’ve just got my Holly back.

Watching Netflix together and DH received a security camera notification. Thinking it could only be a car thief at this time of night he checked the footage and we saw a man in a baseball cap walk on the driveway, empty a bag of Holly onto the driveway then swiftly retreat 😲

Sounds like you might have ended up with more holly than you started with?

Result!

Ever thought of running a wreath making workshop from your kitchen? 😁
I'd come!

JingleB · 07/12/2024 12:46

She’s a CF to take foliage for a commercial business.

For personal use it’s much more a grey area and foraging rules may apply - ie she can’t come after you’ve said no, but she didn’t necessarily have to ask permission before she took some from your hedge. It depends whether “planted deliberately” applies, as a lenient view is often taken when it comes to hedgerows etc while picking your flowers from a flower bed would be illegal.

Either way, anyone wanting to ring the police over a sack of holly is in need of a nice strong cup of tea and a lie down. We had to wait three days for a car theft.

Londonmummy66 · 07/12/2024 12:45

Iloveburgerswaymorethanishould · 06/12/2024 23:38

There’s some lovely holly (with loads and loads of berries) on a bush near my work. I was going to pinch a sprig (literally to put in my house and only one). This has made me realise that it actually belongs to someone and I feel awful!!! I’m probably going to get shot down and I’ll take it! I just didn’t think for one moment the owner would mind!!!! So if nothing else happens regarding yours being stolen (and that’s exactly what it is!!), you’re stopped someone else from doing the same!! Going to sleep now and think about how I need to rewire my mind!! Thankyou!!

The problem is that if everyone who walks by takes just one sprig there won't be any left for the person who actually owns it!

Gravitasdepleted · 07/12/2024 12:34

So fly tippers as well as thieves.

MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 12:31

godmum56 · 07/12/2024 12:15

There is no need to call 999. 101 would be adequate but of course I'd report it.

For some holly clippings left on your drive?
My neighbours had two cars stolen from their drive and it took a week for police to follow it up.

user1471538283 · 07/12/2024 12:30

I'm so pleased you've got it back but I was going to suggest you going to here "business" and going mental about it being your holly.

WaterGreenAndBlue · 07/12/2024 12:28

Massive holly tree in the field ( public council owned) and we took a little to help out wreath making brownies, it looked a little lopsided at the bottom, but has since grown back.

It is a giant tree to be honest..Honestly.
And does look lovely when you walk past it many years later.

I felt a bit guilty, although other locals regularly take the willow to basket weave, so no one objects.

But who would steal from a garden ??

But people do.

My sister has a walled garden, with a small apple orchard of very old established trees.
She does work away a lot, but spends a lot of time with her family each year, either picking the fruit, or picking the fallen fruit. She cooks with it, makes wine, and gives lots away.
On one return home, every apple from every tree was missing, including the fallen apples.

People had broken in to the garden, it’s walled with locked gates, and stolen the lot !!!

godmum56 · 07/12/2024 12:15

MaisieMacabe · 07/12/2024 11:49

I agree. I think sometimes people have lost all sense of proportion.

There is no need to call 999. 101 would be adequate but of course I'd report it.

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