To be miserable about how badly i smell?

Sure max strength am and pm.

This is a brilliant product to add to laundry. IMO better than the Dettol antibacterial liquid etc.
And yes, wash with powder not liquid or pods.
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Look to your diet first point of call and water intake

Does your house have a mould/damp issue?

Otherwise, I would check whether anyone else can smell it? Ask someone you trust will be honest.

And don't let your GP fob you off. I went 20 years without a diagnosis because my "blood tests were normal". Turns out the blood tests they run are very rudimentary and cannot possibly pick up everything

Sounds daft but try using white vinegar instead of fabric conditioner for a while it will neutralise any smell that's on your clothes, if you have an extra rinse option on your machine just give them an extra rinse after the vinegar rinse

I don't use a tumble dryer.

But agree with you that you need to review how you launder your clothes. Maybe sure you dry clothes in a warm well ventilated space as well.

Persimmon soap neutralises the nonenal odour, I used this during meno when usual deodorant didn't work, it really works can get it on Ebay or amazon

I once thought I stunk really bad. I went straight to the doctors and she reassured me I smelt lovely - it turned out I had a severe sinus infection. The smell was horrific but it was all in my nose and nobody else could smell it.. and I asked absolutely everyone and drove them mad over it.

It’s worth thinking about.

Try Salt of the Earth unscented spray and spritz it all over. But also maybe bring a change of t-shirt/underwear with you to change after lunch (if you wear plain coloured tees no one will notice) so you can freshen up and not feel uncomfortable in the afternoon

Synthetic materials are terrible for my BO. Definitely stick to cotton clothes, OP.

Someone else once recommended AKT antiperspirant which is supposed to be an amazing apparently as a natural antiperspirant for helping.

Could be a food intolerance.

My DD is 11 and smells bad when she has dairy. She's now dairy free and the BO smell has gone. No other intolerance symptoms.

Might be worth cutting out certain things to see if that makes any difference?

Firstly, can you wash your hair every day? Second, make sure to wash your clothes on high enough heat. Try washing after one wear at first to see if that helps. Also, wash bedding once a week. Make sure you use enough detergent.

When using soap on your body, use bar soap, as shower gels are not as effective.

Trying rubbing coconut oil under your arm pits before putting deodorant. The coconut oil that is sold for cooking and it is hard. It actually works to kill bacteria and I use only that for deodorant most of the time. The only time I use deodorant is if it is super hot and I will be walking a lot. The coconut oil works extremely well for me alone, so i imagine it should work well combined with deodorant. And I have asked my husband and children to let me know if it is not working (just in case I cannot smell myself).

I wondered that. Do look at your diet, op, everything we eat and drink comes out in our sweat. I know you said you don't sweat excessively but everyone sweats somewhat. Do you consume a lot of red meat, for example. In years gone by it was part of a staple diet, even in school dinners, and people often did smell strongly, 'gamey', including those who kept themselves, their hair and clothes, very clean.

It has also occurred to me that you may not smell as badly as you think. There is a condition called, "Olfactory reference syndrome (ORS)", in which people believe they smell badly even though others did not perceive any smell. Has anyone else told you you smell? I know nobody likes to tell someone that but I think if you have people in your life with whom you are close, you could ask and they would be honest because they'd see how distressed you are. Please do that.

I do feel for you and hope you find a solution.

Are you overweight? It could be you aren’t cleaning in between any folds of skin or drying them properly.

Washing clothes and not drying them properly is likely to be a factor.
Make sure your bedding and towels are clean.

Random one but do you vape? Or take any form of nicotine? I’ve heard that can really mess up your sweat glands and make you sweat a lot more than normal.

So it all be the type of bacteria you can smell.

wash your armpits with soap ad shave them so less surface area for bacteria o grow. Then use ‘salt of the earth’ deodorant.
its a salt stick that you wet to apply and it creates a salty environment that the bacteria cannot grow in. It really is the best one I’ve used out of normal sprays etc.

next thing- make sure you shower and apply before bed too. And have fresh pyjamas. Shower and soap in morning, reapply deodorant. Then I would use some dusting powder from lush (talc free) on your torso to keep it dry. Wear natural fibres so they breathe.

also consider whether there is a hormonal change going on coz they can make you smell eg when you’re postpartum you smell differently.

fresh clothes every day including bra. And dry clothes in a tumble dryer so they aren’t musty. I use white vinegar as fabric softener to keep musty smell out.
also I’d clean out your wardrobe with white vinegar and check you haven’t got some damp in it/behind it which is going on your clothes and then smelling during day. Pop in those mini dehumidifiers.

A few thoughts:

1. Wear 100% cotton only underwear
2. Use an anti bacterial soap when showering and a flannel (irish spring soap is a good one and wont dry your skin)
3. Take a very high quality probiotic like Symprove - when your good bacteria is out of balance it causes bad bactreria to thrive
4. Look at your diet - is there lots of health veg/fibre etc, do you have food intolerances etc
5. Definitely look into your clothes not getting fully dry quick enough- that causes a horrible smell of musty dampness

How hairy are you? My husband suffers a bit bit often the smell is in his armpit hair and not on his skin as it seems to hold onto bacteria. And weird question but what is your earwax like? My husband has very thick oily wax and I barely have any and it’s dry - apparently it is a thing that there is an association with earwax and body odour.

Cottom feels cold and chill against the skin at this time of year- Merino wool is warm and lovely, but expensive .

Acrylic can definitely hold a pong- to do with bacteria {I googled}

My Whippet's natural wool bedding doesn't smell, but her acrylic blanket needs frequent washing as it smells of her popcorn feet otherwise.

I used persimmon soap when I had issues like this due to menopause, it neutralises the nonenal odour

Are you wearing clean clothes every day?

Underwear, t shirt etc. Anything that's next to your skin needs to be clean on every day.

Unless you're very active in which case you may need to change more frequently.

Hello, I remembered a similar post to yours a few years back and it made me look it up again.

There is a condition called Trimethylaminuria that may be worth reading up on.

This organisation offers support and a helpline: https://metabolicsupportuk.org/condition/trimethylaminuria/

Good luck x

Clothing hanging around drying DEFINITELY can smell musty.

One can't beat a good bright windy sunny day for making laundry smell fresh - sun dried, sheets cracking in the wind- they smell gorgeous.

I don't use fabric conditioner either.

I have definitely smelled mustiness on people and always assume it's their clothes.

@fireworksinthesky3 are you sure you actually smell and this isn't an anxiety/psychological issue?

Has anybody else confirmed they can smell it too?

If it's your clothes trying washing them with a capful of disinfectant in the wash. I often do this as we don't wash clothes on such high temperatures any more. You don't need expensive stuff, and the smell of the disinfectant doesn't linger, but I find it does get rid of odours.
And dry thoroughly in the tumble dryer.