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My Host told me not to go somewhere.

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Mearabade · 06/12/2024 00:54

Me and my cousin had a big argument over this. I still think she was being totally unreasonable, but she made me feel like I was being unreasonable.

She asked me to stay with her for a weekend earlier this year.

She lives in a different country to me, so it's a long journey over to see her.

I went over. My aunty (not her mother) lives near her, so i said that I would pop up to see my aunty while I was there.

My cousin got really angry and told me that she didn't want me to go to see my aunt, that i was there to see her.

My cousin seemed to think that because I was staying with her, that she could control my every move.

I said I was going up to my aunt.

I came back to my cousins house. My cousin was really angry and shouted at me to get out of her house. My cousin seemed to be angry that I "went against her".

I was shocked at her anger and I left. I just thought that she was so over the top.

I left her house day early.

We sent each other one long angry message each, and then haven't spoken to each other since. As I'm just shocked by her behaviour.
She was so extreme.

What I gathered from her message is that she seemed to think I was using her for a place to stay.

Not true. And after experiencing her anger I wish I'd stayed in a hotel.

What I wrote back to her is

"While it was nice of you to let me stay with you, I'm an adult and you can't tell me or any other adult not to go anywhere!".

What do you all think.

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2Sensitive · 06/12/2024 04:55

She's had a fall out with that aunt and wanted you to side with her!

TheYeaSayer · 06/12/2024 04:49

The "looks what you made me do" is classic domestic abuse.

I was going to say the same. “You made me do (bad thing) to you!” Very common part of abuse. I remember DDs awful ex pulling this on her.

Leave it be. Cut this family member loose if she doesn’t apologise. Her poor child.

arcticpandas · 06/12/2024 04:49

I am concerned about her child because she's clearly unhinged / suffering from mental illness. Can you signal her behaviour to another relative close by who can check in on her?

XWKD · 06/12/2024 03:52

The "looks what you made me do" is classic domestic abuse.

She's a lunatic.

I have an aunt that used to get jealous about me visiting other people when I stayed with her as a child.

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/12/2024 03:37

ToWhitToWhoo · 06/12/2024 02:50

YANBU; this is outrageous of your cousin. The only explanation (not excuse) that I can think of is: Has your cousin possibly had a falling-out with your aunt? It slightly reminds me of my maternal grandmother who used to have serious quarrels with some of her relatives, and would then try to prevent my grandfather and mother from seeing them. My mother lived as an adult in a different country from her parents, and every time she visited, it would seem that her mother had made up with one relative but quarrelled with another. She once locked my mother in the house to prevent her from getting out to visit the relative who was currently out of favour! However, she never pulled this 'you made me shout!' type of stunt; that's really extreme.

If your cousin has not had a quarrel with your aunt, but is just ultra-offended at your seeing anyone but her, that is even more outrageous.

I am sorry to derail slightly but I am shocked that you think that "you made me shout" is worse than locking someone in a building! Your mother was literally held captive, thats a "doing time" level of crime!

ToWhitToWhoo · 06/12/2024 02:50

YANBU; this is outrageous of your cousin. The only explanation (not excuse) that I can think of is: Has your cousin possibly had a falling-out with your aunt? It slightly reminds me of my maternal grandmother who used to have serious quarrels with some of her relatives, and would then try to prevent my grandfather and mother from seeing them. My mother lived as an adult in a different country from her parents, and every time she visited, it would seem that her mother had made up with one relative but quarrelled with another. She once locked my mother in the house to prevent her from getting out to visit the relative who was currently out of favour! However, she never pulled this 'you made me shout!' type of stunt; that's really extreme.

If your cousin has not had a quarrel with your aunt, but is just ultra-offended at your seeing anyone but her, that is even more outrageous.

Ponoka7 · 06/12/2024 02:40

How old is her child? Are we talking about a new Mum here?

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/12/2024 02:25

That's the worst I've ever seen her.

That suggests that you have seen her being OTT but not that bad in the past? Or that she has kicked off but not at you?

PyongyangKipperbang · 06/12/2024 02:23

Something not right there.

The fact that she assumed that the whole weekend would be you spending it with her, the fact that when you "defied" her (her interpretation, not mine) she went off on one and then blamed you for "making" her shout at you in front of her child...... she has issues. She clearly thinks that if someone does something she doesnt like or want, she is entriely justified in shouting at them and that is far from normal. Yes it is exactly what abusers do.

Either there is a back story with the Aunt, she has serious MH issues or is an out and out narcissist abuser.

Have you contacted your aunt and told her what happened and asked her opinion? Given she is very close geographically, she may have more of an idea of what is going on there.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 06/12/2024 02:22

Is the aunt from the same side of the family? If so couldn't she have come to cousin's house to visit? Either way very weird from the cousin

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 06/12/2024 02:18

Is there a backstory about problems between the aunty and the cousin? Have they fallen out, it’s the only rational reason why your cousin would behave in this very odd manner?

Garlicwest · 06/12/2024 01:44

She said look at what you made me do. That's insane. The kindest way to characterise it is 'childish' but the truth is, this is what abusers say (and some of them believe). It's a good thing you're not hugely close with this cousin, OP, I'd give her the widest possible berth from here on.

Even if she comes back and gives you the apology you deserve, I'd say treat her with caution.

Mearabade · 06/12/2024 01:43

mathanxiety · 06/12/2024 01:40

"You made me shout at you..."

Has there ever been any indication up to now that your cousin is a raging narcissist?

That's the worst I've ever seen her. She was very nasty. I didn't like her behavior at all.

But I'd only seen her about one weekend a year before that. So I hadn't seen her consistently

The way she said "you made me shout at you".

I just thought, isn't that the way that an abusive person speaks to people.

Like they shout and scream at someone, then they say the other person made them do it.

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mathanxiety · 06/12/2024 01:42

Or any indication she has BPD?

mathanxiety · 06/12/2024 01:40

Mearabade · 06/12/2024 01:16

No i literally just popped up to see my aunt for about an hour, and then went back.

I don't know. Everything she said was so bizarre and unreasonable. And extreme.

When i was there with her she shouted at me to get out of her house. She shouted at me . I never raised my voice at her. I just left after she said it.

After i left, She also then sent me a really long message on facebook. It was an extremely long message

In part of The message she said

"I could forgive you for what you did this weekend, but the fact that you made me shout at you in front of my child, I will never forgive or forget"

Is that not really weird behaviour? I just find it really weird. Her behaviour doenst make sense.

"You made me shout at you..."

Has there ever been any indication up to now that your cousin is a raging narcissist?

FloofPaws · 06/12/2024 01:39

That's very bizarre most people would love a guest to have some alone time elsewhere as it's exhausting having guests ... is there a problem
Do you think in her life?

Cornflakes44 · 06/12/2024 01:39

Do you worry about her mental health? As it doesn't sound a normal reaction. Unless for some reason she hates that aunt and she doesn't want to visit her.

Mearabade · 06/12/2024 01:38

Onthesideofthespiders · 06/12/2024 01:25

She asked you to come and stay… why? Is there a back story there?
Did she need you for some reason or expect/plan a wee weekend just the two of you?

The only reason I can even think why she’s react that way is if she invited you specially for a weekend just the two of you and she planned it accordingly for whatever reason, maybe she needed some support or something?

Did you tell her before you went that you planned to see your aunt? If I was staying with someone for the weekend, I’d let them know beforehand that I was going to have a coffee with my Aunt just so they’d know the plan. It’s only polite.

I’m not assuming you did anything wrong, it’s just such an odd reaction that I’m trying to figure out why.

She asked me to come and stay because we roughly saw each other about once a year before that. We are both working and busy in different countries,so that's why it was about once a year.

And she said "it would be good to catch up". And she asked me over. And I said I would go over. And we arranged a weekend to go over.

No, I didn't say that i was going for coffee with my aunt. I wouldn't think I'd need to tell someone that, as she only lives up the road.

That's where I differ in opinion to my cousin I guess. She thinks I should only see her when I go to see her.

But I know that this same cousin has gone to visit our mutual relatives in another country, stayed in one of their houses, and then she went round to see other relatives in other houses while she was there. She didnt jsut stay in one house all weekend, So it was fine when she did it.

I think it's normal if you go over to another country and there's another family member nearby , just to pop up to say hello

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Fraaahnces · 06/12/2024 01:36

Nobody “makes” anyone shout… they choose to do this. I suspect she is lonely and possibly finding motherhood difficult. Not your fault though.

Mearabade · 06/12/2024 01:33

Sia8899 · 06/12/2024 01:22

It does sound very extreme - that she won’t forgive or forget. No one can MAKE someone shout at them. All you can really do is reach out and see if she will offer clarification or an apology

I honestly don't know what was going on with her.
She was that angry and extreme that I was honestly a bit frightened of her.

I remember that I did reply to her at the time , "no one can make you shout. You chose to shout ".

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LigamentBandy · 06/12/2024 01:32

@Mearabade you think what you think, she thinks what she thinks, you both think you are right.
(As I've said before on here.)
None of us know the full details so can't factually answer.

Onthesideofthespiders · 06/12/2024 01:25

She asked you to come and stay… why? Is there a back story there?
Did she need you for some reason or expect/plan a wee weekend just the two of you?

The only reason I can even think why she’s react that way is if she invited you specially for a weekend just the two of you and she planned it accordingly for whatever reason, maybe she needed some support or something?

Did you tell her before you went that you planned to see your aunt? If I was staying with someone for the weekend, I’d let them know beforehand that I was going to have a coffee with my Aunt just so they’d know the plan. It’s only polite.

I’m not assuming you did anything wrong, it’s just such an odd reaction that I’m trying to figure out why.

Isittimeformynapyet · 06/12/2024 01:23

It's hard to believe a cousin could act this way! Does she have previous for being mental?

You can't reason with that behaviour OP. Just extracate yourself and leave it for now.

Sia8899 · 06/12/2024 01:22

It does sound very extreme - that she won’t forgive or forget. No one can MAKE someone shout at them. All you can really do is reach out and see if she will offer clarification or an apology

Thunderpants88 · 06/12/2024 01:20

Mearabade · 06/12/2024 01:16

No i literally just popped up to see my aunt for about an hour, and then went back.

I don't know. Everything she said was so bizarre and unreasonable. And extreme.

When i was there with her she shouted at me to get out of her house. She shouted at me . I never raised my voice at her. I just left after she said it.

After i left, She also then sent me a really long message on facebook. It was an extremely long message

In part of The message she said

"I could forgive you for what you did this weekend, but the fact that you made me shout at you in front of my child, I will never forgive or forget"

Is that not really weird behaviour? I just find it really weird. Her behaviour doenst make sense.

Reply “excuse me. You are an adult. I did not MAKE you do any such thing. You chose to become angry about a totally reasonable situation and you chose to yell. Don’t you dare put that on me. Maybe consider anger management therapy because you were out of control and it is more than a little concerning. Do not contact me again until you are ready to apologise for treating me so poorly”