Do you teach your child to hit back?

But it's the same when you're dealing with a human being. Obviously, you try to avoid violence. However, if someone is on you and attacking you then you need to try to get them off you. Shouting for help doesn't always work.

The same if someone is attacking a child that you're responsible for. If a yell doesn't work, then do your best to get them off the victim whilst causing the least amount of damage.

When animal attack me of course the animal attack for kill so I will be try to kill it too and after I be kill the owner for being stupid enough to not look after his dangerous pet

What a nonsense comment. The only reason I would need a weapon/violence would be to get the dog off my child - if they'd clamped on etc. My main aim would be to get my child out of the situation and to safety. We live in an area with wild boar, I tell my dd to back away, or climb a gate or wall, if one decides to attack. I wouldn't suggest she try to fight it - violence in most situations leads to further violence.

A question to the posters that believe violence is never the solution....

If an out of control dog attacked you or your child and you had something to hand you could use as a weapon, would you stand by watching your child or yourself get mauled and wait for help or would you use necessary violence?

If the latter, why is it different when the attacker is a human? Is it because their human rights are more important than your own despite the fact they made a conscious decision to attack you?

Don't you expect the lessons you teach your DC to be taken into adult life? If the only conflict resolution you have taught your DC is violence, then that is what they will do as an adult.

Children are not adults. It could work the other way too - a kid who thinks they can exert power through violence and bully people, gets hit back once and realises they can't do that as there are consequences. Finds another path.
I'd rather my kids had a good chance at defending themselves. We've never smacked dc, dc are not violent at all but have stood up to bullies and stood up for their friends.

Such weak people on this thread. Even if I end up losing, I'm fighting back.

Self defence is generally admissable as a last resort. If somebody attacks me I'll defend myself and I'd much prefer that to standing there and getting pummeled. I used to do Thai boxing and I had to use it one time against a drunken woman who went for me. It stopped her in her tracks and left me with just a minor cut on my cheek. Had I not defended myself I'd likely have been injured.

Taking no nonsense doesn't equate to hitting.

Violence only begets violence.

But yes, you may be surprised to hear that teens do kill one another.

Don't you expect the lessons you teach your DC to be taken into adult life? If the only conflict resolution you have taught your DC is violence, then that is what they will do as an adult.

@SidhuVicious Theres always one school with poof leadership and Catholic schools, as we all know, are not all beacons of excellence in a number of ways. In general, children viciously hitting each other is not a factor in a well led school.

My sister told each of her three kids (two girls and a boy) to take no nonsense from anyone. If they were ever hit then they were to hit back harder.
All three have grown up to be very confident, successful adults.

And lol at all the 'one punch kill' comments. 😂 How often does this actually happen with children?

How many children accidentally kill others vs giving the bully a bloody nose/black eye? I mean, if you're really this risk averse I can only assume you don't drive to work and will be trying your damnedest to ensure your children never learn to drive.

This is completely untrue. The worst bullying I've seen was in a posh catholic private school.

Fact remains that bullies will almost always pick the easier target. Even if they beat up the kid that fights back the chances are good that they'll think twice next time.

No. I taught mine one punch can kill.

Not to hit back because you will be in trouble for fighting (at school)

Taught to avoid conflict, leave, run away if possible.

Now, he knows how to defend himself getting his guard up.

Awful and isn't the norm elsewhere so obviously there is a systemic issue.

Even if there were fighting I and my sons would do as set out by @Runnersandtoms

Ok so if you avoid the city when England play, you’re no doubt avoiding it because of how those fans tend to behave with their fighting and general anti-social behaviour.

Take how they behave in your city, add more English people into the mix, and that’s your average UK city on any weekend night (or weekday, come to think of it).

I am in a European capital. Do I see fights the way you described no I don't.

The only that I would avoid city is when England come over to play 🤷‍♀️

So you don’t live in or enter any city or town in the UK at night? Because fights and confrontations happen all the time and I genuinely don’t know where someone lives that they have no knowledge of this.

I don't live in a place where this is the norm at all. I wouldn't be going near any place that did.

Do you live somewhere very rough?

My kids are teenagers. And as adults in an aggressive situation they would do the same thing. Walk/run away, use defensive measures (my 18 year old has black belt in karate) call the police, speak to a security guard/pub manager etc. Getting involved in a pub fight will get both parties thrown out of and barred from any decent pub. I literally cannot believe that so many people think retaliation to unprovoked violence is the solution. As others have said above a single unlucky punch could cause a death and the courts won't give a shit that the victim started it. I've warned my 14 year old son about exactly this as he is a gentle giant who literally wouldn't know his own strength.

How old are your kids?

IIRC, you wrote in one of the opening pages of the thread that your kids school were proactive in dealing with bullies etc.

How do you think your kids will approach situations outside of school when they’re older? Pub fights, people starting on them for no reason…whatever the scenario, there will be no teachers to tell, no adult to go to (as they will be the adult). How do you think they’ll manage in those situations?

The fact that you say 'game on' is very telling.

Personally I would feel no pleasure at all in feeling justified in being violent. I guess that's why kids are like that, because its clear some parents actually relish the idea of their kids punching someone else.

My kids, like me would be horrified at the idea of getting into a fight.

I once watched a child in the playground spinning round and round. As they spun, they accidentally smacked a child who was running past. The running child stopped, turned round, and punched the spinning one in the face, splitting their lip.

Guess what the puncher had been taught by their idiotic parents? To hit back if anyone hits you.