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Mearabade · 04/12/2024 22:10

I've watched a bit of it over the years.

I was watching a couple of this year's episodes, and I just thought that the trials have gotten so much worse.

Yesterday they had Oti mabuse, one of the contestants, stand in a sarcophagus. They poured sand into it, up to her neck, so her whole body was covered in sand, and she couldn't move at all.

She had a tiny head space for air. Then they filled that head space with giant cockraches, ants and large worms.

I was watching it and thinking,

"When did watching people being completely tortured on TV become acceptable."

Is it not going too far?

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vodkaredbullgirl · 05/12/2024 19:20

Roll on to tonight's episode.

Whatalife88 · 05/12/2024 19:03

I bet you're fun at parties. Imagine comparing celebrities getting hundreds of thousands of pounds for doing a few tasks for 3 weeks to people in certain countries who are actually tortured, or Sara Sharif who was tortured by her own family. Most of the celebrities say they'd do it again so it can't be that bad. Bugs are a phobia, they're actually nothing to be scared of, it's not like they're being waterboarded or having knives pulled on them. You're being precious and I'd hate to live with someone as boring as you.

Pomegranatecarnage · 05/12/2024 18:45

I have never been able to watch it! It’s horrifying.

tilypu · 05/12/2024 18:43

BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:57

Look, love, I’ve been on this planet for 71 years and lived in a variety of places in the UK - do you not think I might have heard it at least once if it was still in contemporary use?

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But it is still in contemporary use.

Have you heard the words 'peedie' 'slester' or 'spaigie'?

They are also in contemporary use in the UK.

And TBF - you've seen it used on Mumsnet. Surely that's contemporary use in the UK too?

Whaleandsnail6 · 05/12/2024 18:00

Mearabade · 05/12/2024 11:34

'Nothing the humans have to endure is cruel"?

It's astounding how people adapt to see torture as normality.

Because it's on a tv show and the contestants are paid, they think it's OK.

If I put a child in a sarcophagus and poured sand up to her neck, so she can't move her legs or arms.

If I then pour giant burrowing cockroaches, and mealworms and ants all over her face.

And I make her scream.
She's screaming and I'm laughing at her.

Am I being cruel to that child?

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The contestants are not children. They are fully consenting adults, with a good enough understanding of what will happen to them before they go into the situation. They have an immediate out if they start and do not like it...it is not torture and your comparison of this to torture is insulting to people who undergo torture.

You say its cruel as it "terrifies people" I went in a dungeon with scare actors...once in there I found it terrifying -are the owners of merlin cruel and torturous for having such an attraction? Or as an adult, should I take responsibility for the fact I knew what to expect and chose to go into the attraction?

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 17:14

Yes, me too.

Edited to add that I’m Irish though and not British, to be fair to pp.

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 17:11

Yes it worked there .

I never even knew that some people thought that "gotten" was unusual.

It's used all the time, where I live!

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Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 17:10

I think it worked this time.

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 17:06

Yes, sorry, link doesn’t seem to work. You can search it anyway.

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 17:05

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 17:03

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedantscorner/4002174-Gotten-Why

It’s discussed here for example @Blossomtoes. A number of Scottish posters say they use it regularly.

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That link doesn't seem to open for me

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 17:04

I think that "gotten" is a great, descriptive word.

It sounds good. It's better than the simple "got".
In my opinion.

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Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 17:03

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 16:56

These threads come up regularly and people from Scotland, NI and N England always come on to say things like their granny has always used it. You could do a search if you want. You’ll find British people saying it hasn’t died out in their region, I know you will.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedantscorner/4002174-Gotten-Why

It’s discussed here for example @Blossomtoes. A number of Scottish posters say they use it regularly.

Garnetcherrycola · 05/12/2024 17:02

Mearabade · 05/12/2024 12:32

I'll pour giant burrowing cockroaches all over your face and see if you think it's fun!

The ants bite and hurt people.

One contrstant had a leech suck a load of blood out of her.

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the whole "they signed up for it and have given consent" thing completely flew over your head didn't it? 🥱 go be batshit somewhere else x

BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:57

Mearabade · 05/12/2024 16:49

Do you know everyone in the UK then?

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Look, love, I’ve been on this planet for 71 years and lived in a variety of places in the UK - do you not think I might have heard it at least once if it was still in contemporary use?

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 16:56

BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:44

Not in any part of northern England I know and not by my bloke’s extensive family in N Ireland. I’ve literally never heard it spoken by a British person except in the context of “ill gotten gains”.

These threads come up regularly and people from Scotland, NI and N England always come on to say things like their granny has always used it. You could do a search if you want. You’ll find British people saying it hasn’t died out in their region, I know you will.

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 16:55

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 16:41

I’m in ROI and It’s widely used here and not a new thing.

Regarding the UK, as far as I know it’s used in NI, parts of Scotland and parts of Northern England.

It’s a useful word to have. It’s not used in quite the same way as ‘got’ is and it’s useful to be able to make that distinction in speech.

#teamgotten

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PottedPlantCrazy · 05/12/2024 16:54

May I ask why you’ve tuned in over the years?

if you’ve been thoroughly disgusted and not entertained in the slightest, have you done anything productive about it? Ofcom? Contacted ITV? Etc.

(Apologies if this reads as rude, genuinely asking) x

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 16:49

BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:24

Shakespeare’s been dead for 400 years. It’s not in contemporary use in the vast majority of the UK.

Do you know everyone in the UK then?

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BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:44

Not in any part of northern England I know and not by my bloke’s extensive family in N Ireland. I’ve literally never heard it spoken by a British person except in the context of “ill gotten gains”.

Rainbowandgrey · 05/12/2024 16:41

I’m in ROI and It’s widely used here and not a new thing.

Regarding the UK, as far as I know it’s used in NI, parts of Scotland and parts of Northern England.

It’s a useful word to have. It’s not used in quite the same way as ‘got’ is and it’s useful to be able to make that distinction in speech.

BIossomtoes · 05/12/2024 16:24

Shakespeare’s been dead for 400 years. It’s not in contemporary use in the vast majority of the UK.

tilypu · 05/12/2024 16:07

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 05/12/2024 12:49

'Jugador?' That's Spanish though, not English. We could go on all day bringing up words from another language!

Also, 'gotten' is a word yes, but it's not an English one, it's American.

I'm not bothered if people use it, I probably use Americanisms myself some days, but let's not pretend it's English, because it's not.

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Good job on missing my point entirely!!

And yes, gotten is English. Some people seem to think it's American English, but it never died out in some areas of the UK.

Was Shakespeare pretending when he used it?

tilypu · 05/12/2024 16:04

BakedBeansforabrain · 05/12/2024 13:05

Only in the USA

In British English, the past participle of the verb get is got. In American English, people say gotten.

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That's not true.

I've already said it has been in common use in certain areas of the UK all my living memory, and I'm over a half century old. It's in the king James bible. It's used by Shakespeare. Just because it has fallen out of use in some areas doesn't make it not an English word used in the UK.

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Mearabade · 05/12/2024 13:28

BakedBeansforabrain · 05/12/2024 13:05

Only in the USA

In British English, the past participle of the verb get is got. In American English, people say gotten.

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The past participle of Got also used to be gotten in the UK.

It just faded out of popularity a bit, and some people now use the shorter, "got".

Look up the history of the word.

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