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To say that the TV Licence should be abolished?

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Appalonia · 04/12/2024 19:12

When I look at what I watch on TV these days on the BBC, it's really only Strictly, repeats of TOTP and Glastonbury . There's nothing else that interests me. I listen to Trevor Nelson on R2, but that's it. I watch Netflix, Amazon much more and some shows on ITV, C4 or Sky Arts. And a lot of interviews on YouTube and podcasts. I also object to how the BBC posits itself as the voice of truth and neutrality, but it really isn't these days, on so many issues.

Why are we forced to pay for a service that has had its day and is no longer fit for service?

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Notmoog · 05/12/2024 14:22

TaylorBrown · 05/12/2024 14:07

Oh well 500000 people have cancelled it so it wouldn't surprise me if that's why they unfroze it. Struggling to pay all the peedos pensions. Ate they still paying huws 300000? Ran by a bunch of corrupt SOs

I should imagine that figure will ramp up as more people realise you don't need to pay it at all

TaylorBrown · 05/12/2024 14:07

Changingplace · 05/12/2024 13:59

No, it’s just rising with inflation like everything rise, except it’s had a freeze for about the past four years.

Oh well 500000 people have cancelled it so it wouldn't surprise me if that's why they unfroze it. Struggling to pay all the peedos pensions. Ate they still paying huws 300000? Ran by a bunch of corrupt SOs

Changingplace · 05/12/2024 13:59

TaylorBrown · 05/12/2024 12:31

They're putting it up again for the people who pay because there is more not paying it. Government ran so obviously they need to do whatever to screw the payer to keep it.

No, it’s just rising with inflation like everything rise, except it’s had a freeze for about the past four years.

Changingplace · 05/12/2024 13:58

Snorlaxo · 05/12/2024 04:29

Yanbu Op. BBC Channels should be a subscription service that sells its best dramas to other streaming channels for revenue. Sick of paying for channels that I don’t use.

And herein lies one of the issues in that people don’t understand how the BBC already operates.

Absolutely loads of BBC dramas are sold to streamers and around the world via BBC studios, so are formats - Strictly is sold all round the world, you’ll find Peaky blinders and Luther on Netflix for example.

If you don’t watch bbc then cancel your licence.

Dreamskies · 05/12/2024 13:21

Don’t pay for it then? Remove your coax and watch your ITV shows on ITVX or whatever it’s called.

zaxxon · 05/12/2024 13:20

I really like the BBC content - have seen & heard some fantastic programmes this year. Happy to keep paying the licence fee.

ITvX and Channel 4 catch-up are all bur unwatchable with the ads. There's lots of stuff there I'd like to see, but I won't go near either any more.

As for news, there's no such thing as a genuinely impartial take. The moment you make a choice about what to show and how (because you can't show literally everything), you're opening yourself up to accusations of bias. Since the BBC seems to get accused about equally by left and right, it's probably about as centrist as it can be.

arethereanyleftatall · 05/12/2024 12:49

I won't be paying come renewal time.

The misogyny this year has been unbearable and I won't be contributing my finances to that.

Whammyammy · 05/12/2024 12:41

It's an absolute rip off. I stopped paying it years ago and don't watch the rubbish they put on bbc, and all the perverts they've employed and protected over the years.

Can't believe people still pay it in this day and age, must be hard-core eastenders fans.

TenderChicken · 05/12/2024 12:37

YANBU, I haven't had a TV licence for well over a decade now. We just don't watch live TV and for the amount of content that I want to watch, Netflix had always seemed a much better deal.

TaylorBrown · 05/12/2024 12:31

They're putting it up again for the people who pay because there is more not paying it. Government ran so obviously they need to do whatever to screw the payer to keep it.

Notmoog · 05/12/2024 12:30

sanityisamyth · 05/12/2024 12:24

I don't. I don't want to watch adverts.

don't the BBC advertise their own services?

sanityisamyth · 05/12/2024 12:24

Starzinsky · 04/12/2024 23:33

I never watch normal tv, just wish they would add adverts and scrap the fee.

I don't. I don't want to watch adverts.

Dotjones · 05/12/2024 10:02

It should be abolished. I used to support it, when there were only four channels available to most people it made sense to have it. It's just not necessary anymore.

For a while I thought there should be a lower licence fee, say £10 a year, to support its news output. But the BBC news is so biased now. (PSA: any news provider who has to tell you they are impartial almost certainly isn't.)

The only way the licence fee could possibly be tolerable to me would be if it granted access to the entire back catalogue of the BBC. Every episode of every series available on demand, not just the tiny selection they put on the iPlayer. That's never going to happen, so just scrap the whole thing. It can still be a voluntary subscription service if there are enough people who want to pay for it.

BeretInParis · 05/12/2024 09:43

The BBC's general programming is excellent. My DH and I tend to watch BBC1 and BBC2 the most - out of all the channels.

Its news provision is biased and actually jeopardises our country's security and values in some cases. Actively not what the licence fee to our state broadcaster should be doing.

I'd like the journalistic and programming aspects of the BBC be split out under a subscription model so I can actively support and consume the high quality aspects of the BBC and let the news elements flounder without support.

JennyForeigner · 05/12/2024 08:38

I've never been anti-BBC. Don't really watch it, do listen to the radio in the car and value the international stuff and so on. CBeebies is a hill I would die on and happily pay the license fee for alone, but I can't imagine they will now need to remake number blocks.

This thread has been a realisation that my views have changed. It's too expensive and yes, I do now resent paying in an era of choice for what is basically a massive monothilic block of rubbish content.

spuddy4 · 05/12/2024 08:31

xTheLoudLeaderx · 05/12/2024 06:22

I’ve always paid but this year money has been so tight. I seen someone on twitter talking about how they’d not paid for 15 years so I cancelled mine.
It’s a fee I can’t afford and I think you should have the option to pay it or not.
The wording is as thought it’s for all tv channels but isn’t it just the BBC ?

I haven't paid mine for years either. Just went online and declared I don't watch tv and that's it. I don't understand why people would pay it in this day and age because there's so many ways to watch tv now so it should be abolished, it's massively outdated.

x2boys · 05/12/2024 08:13

Alphaalga · 05/12/2024 03:42

It's disgusting that you have to pay the BBC just for owning a device capable of receiving its broadcasts, whether you watch them or not.

It's even more disgusting that you have to pay the likes of Laura Kuenssberg's grossly overblown salary for all her years tory-loving lies and propaganda.

It's even more disgusting again that you're being forced to fund an organisation that has provided refuge and cover for so many paedophiles and other sexual predators for so long.

Ditch this unfair stealth tax now and let these national gaslighters pay their own stinking way.

That's not true ,you are allowed to have a TV ,as many watch streaming channels, and game etc
You only need a licence if you watch live TV

Lovelysummerdays · 05/12/2024 08:00

xTheLoudLeaderx · 05/12/2024 06:22

I’ve always paid but this year money has been so tight. I seen someone on twitter talking about how they’d not paid for 15 years so I cancelled mine.
It’s a fee I can’t afford and I think you should have the option to pay it or not.
The wording is as thought it’s for all tv channels but isn’t it just the BBC ?

I think it’s if you watch live tv from any channel and if you access iplayer.

Notmoog · 05/12/2024 08:00

username299 · 05/12/2024 04:27

You're persued for the licence fee because to not pay it is breaking the law.

I don't agree that the BBC is a State propaganda service and I enjoy their programmes and news service.

That's not true.
It's against the law to watch live tv or iplayer.
Otherwise you don't need a license.

Lovelysummerdays · 05/12/2024 07:59

I used to love the bbc. I’m still a fan of some stuff, the nature programmes, the space programmes, bbc bite size are really educational and good for kids. I watch have I got news for you and some dramas.

I think once dc are older I’ll cancel licence though I never watch live tv and will just use a paid service of my choosing.!

Londonrach1 · 05/12/2024 07:57

xTheLoudLeaderx · 05/12/2024 06:22

I’ve always paid but this year money has been so tight. I seen someone on twitter talking about how they’d not paid for 15 years so I cancelled mine.
It’s a fee I can’t afford and I think you should have the option to pay it or not.
The wording is as thought it’s for all tv channels but isn’t it just the BBC ?

It's all tv channels... We paying by month now. I hope they stop the license. I hate paying it but we do have a TV.

Notmoog · 05/12/2024 07:53

Alphaalga · 05/12/2024 03:42

It's disgusting that you have to pay the BBC just for owning a device capable of receiving its broadcasts, whether you watch them or not.

It's even more disgusting that you have to pay the likes of Laura Kuenssberg's grossly overblown salary for all her years tory-loving lies and propaganda.

It's even more disgusting again that you're being forced to fund an organisation that has provided refuge and cover for so many paedophiles and other sexual predators for so long.

Ditch this unfair stealth tax now and let these national gaslighters pay their own stinking way.

Good news is that's not true.
Think about all the devices that are capable of receiving tv. Your tv, tablets, 'phones etc. etc.
You don't need a license just because you have equipment capable of getting tv.
You need a license if you access live tv. or iplayer.
Ditch it.

xTheLoudLeaderx · 05/12/2024 06:22

I’ve always paid but this year money has been so tight. I seen someone on twitter talking about how they’d not paid for 15 years so I cancelled mine.
It’s a fee I can’t afford and I think you should have the option to pay it or not.
The wording is as thought it’s for all tv channels but isn’t it just the BBC ?

Pat888 · 05/12/2024 06:19

Why don't you just cancel it then and use Disney etc -

Strange thread

username299 · 05/12/2024 05:40

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 05/12/2024 04:59

You're telling me that the BBC is currently a Labour mouthpiece, spewing nothing but state propaganda like Chinese TV

Ok, first of all, I have not said the BBC is currently a "Labour mouthpiece". There is a difference between party governance, and State. The fact you don't appear to recognise this makes me question if it's worth engaging with you, because unless you can grasp the fact that tools of State, Armed Forces for example, can still be utterly beholden to and carry out the demands of the State, whilst remaining Politically indifferent, then the point about the BBC being a tool of State will remain lost to you.

For "evidence", what more do you want than the Head of Government inadvertently admitting that a BBC employee was, in fact, a UK State intelligence asset? How about the BBC's broadcast role in WWII, not just the propaganda aspect, but the role in assisting SOE agents, foreign resistance operatives, broadcasting signals on the behalf of the RAF and so on. It is quite literally an asset of the UK State, always has been, and always will be unless it is decoupled from the State and becomes genuinely independent.

So what you're saying is that the current government have no control over institutions of the State, for example the army or police and they run by themselves. Are you talking about the deep state?

That the BBC is full of agents of the state pretending to be journalists and producers that have no political affiliation.

That the BBC does not represent the government's views but the views of state institutions.

That the BBC assisted the UK during the WW2 and it should not have done that and remained impartial.

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