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AIBU to be mildly irritated at this situation on Christmas Eve?

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FoxyArsedCountryPissWhore · 04/12/2024 14:34

I have two kids under 3. My family generally have a family get together on Christmas Eve, they live 90 minutes drive away. This year, instead of holding it at relative A’s (clean, spacious) home, they want it held at relative B’s home. Relative B is elderly, lives alone, has dementia, but absolutely could and would attend the get together at relative A’s house, were it held there. Relative B struggles hugely to manage a house and really frankly cannot really care for themselves and needs much more support. This has been much discussed within the family and I’ve mentioned this repeatedly with no action. I’m too far removed both physically and in terms of familial relationship to relative B to support
myself.

Relative A would like to host but the rest of the family are insisting it be at B’s house. There are two things that mean that taking my kids will be tricky: B’s house is filthy, like health hazard filthy, and the timing of the get together, late on Christmas Eve. It’s an awkward time for both kids, they’ll be tired and the oldest will be very excitable and probably a bit silly as 3 year olds are often on Christmas Eve, and baby will fuss for a nap. I have asked if the time could be moved to better accommodate the children, but no. B’s house is so dirty that I couldn’t even put baby down anywhere. I can see this event being nothing but stressful if I’m honest.

I’m feeling a little pressured as if I’m being the bad guy by saying we’ll do our own thing on Christmas Eve.

Two AIBUs really:

AIBU not to go?

AIBU to be a bit irritated at the rest of the family’s lack of flexibility in insisting it’s at B’s house?

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RampantIvy · 06/12/2024 19:52

NannaKaren · 06/12/2024 10:15

visit and drop gifts to the others earlier on Christmas Eve then stay home and enjoy your little ones.
someone should push for any support for the relative with dementia - I feel for them 💔

Spending 3 hours plus on the roads with 2 small children on what could possibly be the busiest day of the year for traffic is utter madness.

LlynTegid · 06/12/2024 10:18

Decline and do so now, don't wait a week or so. You are being kind and considerate to the person with dementia to visit at some other time.

NannaKaren · 06/12/2024 10:15

visit and drop gifts to the others earlier on Christmas Eve then stay home and enjoy your little ones.
someone should push for any support for the relative with dementia - I feel for them 💔

PullTheBricksDown · 06/12/2024 08:51

Honeycrisp · 06/12/2024 07:52

It's always fine to refuse things that are completely small child unfriendly.

Especially on Christmas Eve, which most people would agree is a peak day of excitement for small kids.

Honeycrisp · 06/12/2024 07:52

It's always fine to refuse things that are completely small child unfriendly.

toucheee · 06/12/2024 07:27

FoxyArsedCountryPissWhore · 04/12/2024 16:49

Thanks all. We’re definitely not going to go. Too stressful and difficult. We’ll have a relaxed Christmas Eve evening at home instead. Appreciate the input.

Right choice not to go. Also they could be putting undue pressure on B if she gets embarrassed at not being able maintain the house (understandable at her age). My elderly mum struggles with her house and has cleaners but if she didn’t and the house was not clean, having guests would make her very stressed. If my mum couldn’t afford cleaners I would either clean her house or pay for cleaners for her.

I think your relatives will envy you your chilled Christmas Eve, but they have made their bed.

Cherrysoup · 06/12/2024 07:20

Wouldn’t do a Christmas Eve trip with a 6 hour return journey even as just adults, that’s a bit mad. I wonder if the family are going to clean the house up before the get together?

steponacrackbreakyourmothersback · 06/12/2024 07:12

We alway go to a relatives on Xmas eve it's a lovely family get together. Before kids it started at 7, since kids kids it now starts at 4 and we generally leave around 7pm

jeaux90 · 06/12/2024 07:11

Lone parent too here OP. Life is exhausting enough without this shitshow on Xmas eve.

Have a lovely chilled one at home!

I also had my father pass from Dementia a couple of years ago, nothing used to stress him out more than hoards of people in his house. Equally though he'd get confused when we were elsewhere or he'd visit my home so you can't really win with that one.

SouthMumof2 · 06/12/2024 07:03

Definitely wouldn’t be going.. I think a 3 hour round trip with 2 little ones on the most exciting night of the year for them is odd anyway. Like another post said, stay home and do all the lovely bits..watch the news for the sleigh tracking, laying out mince pies for Santa, carrots for reindeer
Just arrange a date before or after Christmas to see family. My family is quite big and a tight squeeze in anyone’s house so we our having our get together this weekend in a nice restaurant… takes the pressure off massively

jennikr · 06/12/2024 06:39

With little kids you have a good excuse to not do anything you don't want to do - just say they're too tired or make up another excuse and have a nice Christmas Eve at home.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 05/12/2024 20:49

I'd make this the start of Christmas Eve's at home while your kids are young OP, as taking them out anywhere on Christmas Eve as they get older, will only result in tiredness and temper tantrums as all the excitement gets too much for them.

mathanxiety · 05/12/2024 20:43

ForegoneConfusion · 04/12/2024 16:13

It's not ideal for small children to be on 3hr round car trips on Christmas Eve. I wouldn't go on Christmas Eve, but I'd arrange to pop in some time over Christmas with some nice food and drink. In fact, could you offer to take the relative out for an afternoon? They might appreciate that if they live alone.

That sounds really difficult when the OP has a baby and a 3yo.

mathanxiety · 05/12/2024 20:42

Absolutely skip this event.

Even at A's house, it sounds stressful, but B's house is a ridiculous idea.

The only good thing that will come of this is that everyone will see how appalling B's living conditions are and get motivated to do something about it.

Pompeyssy · 05/12/2024 20:32

Good decision OP, I wouldn't dream of bringing children into that environment.
Not suitable for children and not appropriate for your relative with dementia.

Have a lovely evening at home.

FoxyArsedCountryPissWhore · 05/12/2024 20:24

Pearshaped20 · 05/12/2024 19:34

I think aside from your young children being better at home Xmas eve to do pre Christmassy things. The thing I find difficult to comprehend is a hoard of people turning up to a horse with someone who has dementia. I know when my mum had dementia she found it hard to cope with lots of people, noise, being out of her routine. Even on Xmas day where previously she would enjoy herself, once dementia took hold she would only manage dinner and an hour or so and then wanted to go home Something that can also occur is Sundowning Syndrome and can cause additional confusion, sadness, anger and can be brought on by overstimulation. Does she normally have lots of people over. I think your family need to think about what they're wanting to achieve with a gathering at her house

Entirely agree.

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HowDidYouGuess · 05/12/2024 19:43

Just a plain no, doesn't work for us....we want to stay home this Christmas Eve. No need to lie. Just state what you are doing and wish everyone a lovely time. I wouldn't definitely not go and I would definitely not feel bad about it.

Pearshaped20 · 05/12/2024 19:34

I think aside from your young children being better at home Xmas eve to do pre Christmassy things. The thing I find difficult to comprehend is a hoard of people turning up to a horse with someone who has dementia. I know when my mum had dementia she found it hard to cope with lots of people, noise, being out of her routine. Even on Xmas day where previously she would enjoy herself, once dementia took hold she would only manage dinner and an hour or so and then wanted to go home Something that can also occur is Sundowning Syndrome and can cause additional confusion, sadness, anger and can be brought on by overstimulation. Does she normally have lots of people over. I think your family need to think about what they're wanting to achieve with a gathering at her house

SUBisYodrethwhenLarping · 05/12/2024 19:28

I see you have decided not to go

But my thought when I read it was about B finding it easier to use the bathroom etc in their own home as everything is there ready to be used

Maybe a commode or change of clothes if there is an accident

If none of these are relevant I think it could just be that the children of B just want them to have and enjoy one last Christmas in their own home

NavyTurtle · 05/12/2024 19:26

Nope. Not happening in my world. Just say you will leave them.all to it.

fuzzywuzzywombat · 05/12/2024 19:09

Make it a house cleaning party for relative that obviously needs help. This would be a fantastic gift to them all the relatives can participate. You can put your baby in a travel cot. How is it you've all let it get like this?

Starlight7080 · 05/12/2024 18:58

Stay home . Make your own traditions and enjoy it being a bit more relaxing for all of you . Especially with such young children

Judecb · 05/12/2024 18:51

With 2 kids of this age you are are entitled to do your own thing. Christmas can be stressful enough. Maybe plan to take your elderly relative out for lunch after Christmas, so they get to see your kids.

justasking111 · 05/12/2024 13:03

WoolySnail · 05/12/2024 10:58

This ⬆️ My Aunt and cousins were always trying to make my Nan participate in 3 day long get togethers which she simply didn't want- no matter how well intentioned.

I couldn't be doing with that these days.

Even when we were young it was accepted that grandparents, great aunts enjoyed lunch, a cup of tea, piece of cake and homeward bound .

Forced jollities are exhausting.

WoolySnail · 05/12/2024 10:58

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 04/12/2024 16:46

I know a very elderly couple who sound a bit like Relative B. They love seeing everyone at Christmas, but only for about half an hour. Then it's all too much for them, and the small children drive them demented, however much they love them, they can't go and nap when they want to or watch 'their' programmes on TV, yet everyone insists on congregating at their house for Christmas because 'it might be their last'. They'd really prefer everyone to drop in for a cup of tea and a mince pie and then go away again. Any chance that Relative B might feel the same? It's about to become obvious, anyway.

This ⬆️ My Aunt and cousins were always trying to make my Nan participate in 3 day long get togethers which she simply didn't want- no matter how well intentioned.