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Childs dad may be in prison. I am at breaking point

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Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 11:36

At a loss about what to do. I have a 16 month old son and it's just been constant stress from the start but I've always allowed contact as I wanted my son to have his dad in his life.

He was in a toxic relationship with his ex (left me whilst pregnant ) for her and has been until recently and she has just had a baby with him.

For the past 4 or 5 months his ex has accused him of child abuse and domestic violence against her. He was on bail until end of December whilst police was investigating and he had supervised contact with our son for a few hours every week whilst this was happening

Now, I think he has been remanded in prison. However police are saying that and then saying he is not in prison but they know where he is and he is 'safe and well'

I have had no contact from him about what is going on.

I am really struggling to cope mentally I am being kept in the dark I have asked solicitors and my social worker and no one tells me anything
I don't even know what he's been accused of ( he says its all false as she is trying to win the custody case of their children)

I just feel like cutting it all off for good. I've gave him the benefit of the doubt and allowed supervised contact as told by my social worker as I don't know the truth

I have made previous posts about this but just feel like I need advice. Should I cut him off permanently or see what is happening first and see what the truth is.

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Leabee1234 · 06/12/2024 21:20

So his dad has got in touch with me
He is on remand for breaching bail and was in court today for 3 counts. Stalking to cause distress, criminal damage of property under £5000 and a threat to post an intimate photo. In his letter he thought he would be released today if be pleaded guilty but i am pretty sure he could get time for these offences. These offences I have only just found out today.

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Leabee1234 · 05/12/2024 08:38

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 19:47

They can’t disclose where he is because they can’t breach his confidentiality and you have no legal right to know unless he chooses to tell you.

Though if he is on remand it will be court ordered and therefore a matter of public record.

It’s him choosing to stay out of contact. The police, SS etc, cannot tell you where he is unless he gives them permission to do so.

Thank you yes it appears he is choosing not to contact. I will not be looking for anymore information

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/12/2024 19:53

Heronwatcher · 04/12/2024 12:56

Sorry to be blunt but this is an absolute no brainer. Keep out of it. If he sorts himself out and is acquitted then it’s for him to approach you and ask for supervised contact. Be aware that if he’s involved in some sort of toxic nonsense with his ex this may never happen. Until then assume you’ll be going it alone. Your DS is super young so this will have little/ no effect on him I would imagine. I agree normally it’s good to have a relationship with both parents but honestly sometimes it’s better just to keep out of it- and everything suggests this is the latter.

Even if he is acquitted the doubts and suspicions may still be there. Let’s not forget not everyone aquiitted is innocent just like not one everyone convicted is guilty. Miscarriages of justice okay they don’t happen every day but they’re a total rarity either, are they.

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 19:47

They can’t disclose where he is because they can’t breach his confidentiality and you have no legal right to know unless he chooses to tell you.

Though if he is on remand it will be court ordered and therefore a matter of public record.

It’s him choosing to stay out of contact. The police, SS etc, cannot tell you where he is unless he gives them permission to do so.

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 16:18

Anotherparkingthread · 04/12/2024 15:50

He's probably on a psych ward if the police can't disclose where he is.

Do you think so? I did think this. As the police have been saying different things such as he's not in prison and them another was saying we cannot tell you where he is but he is safe and well. However they first said he had been remanded until the new year.

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Anotherparkingthread · 04/12/2024 15:50

He's probably on a psych ward if the police can't disclose where he is.

Beezknees · 04/12/2024 15:31

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:35

If he is found guilty of that there is no way I would want him in my childs life. He always has said either way he will take me to court for access if I cut him.off but I guess if he is guilty that would be supervised. However police are saying no crime has been committed but rhen another police station were saying he has been remanded for breaching bail.So police are even telling me different things

He will not take you to court for access. These men always say they will as a form of control. They are liars. When it comes down to it they don't care enough about their kids to spend the money and time actually doing it. Believe me, I've been there.

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 15:28

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 15:17

He's gong to take you to court for access?

Hahahah - he can't even be bothered to get in touch to find out how his small child is.

Even if he is not convicted for offences against the (other) ex and her child, he left your baby in a car park - and lied about it to you (only a few seconds etc etc) . So how would you ever allow him unsupervised access?. And how great do you think that is for your child?

It isn't the police's and social workers job to tell you where he is. He is an adult who is CHOOSING not to make contact with you. The only person 'keeping you in the dark' is him.

It is outrageous that he is not bothering to keep in contact with your child (he would be allowed to, if on remand) but everything he has done is outrageous, and none of it desirable in a child's life, or yours.

Thank you. I agree. I find it strange he hasn't contacted me as he seen his son every week before this but something isn't sitting right with me. I am stopping contact until I know my son would be safe. I don't want any involvement so I am cutting him off now

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ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 15:17

He's gong to take you to court for access?

Hahahah - he can't even be bothered to get in touch to find out how his small child is.

Even if he is not convicted for offences against the (other) ex and her child, he left your baby in a car park - and lied about it to you (only a few seconds etc etc) . So how would you ever allow him unsupervised access?. And how great do you think that is for your child?

It isn't the police's and social workers job to tell you where he is. He is an adult who is CHOOSING not to make contact with you. The only person 'keeping you in the dark' is him.

It is outrageous that he is not bothering to keep in contact with your child (he would be allowed to, if on remand) but everything he has done is outrageous, and none of it desirable in a child's life, or yours.

SpryCat · 04/12/2024 14:44

He has always said he would take your to court to fight for access.
I doubt it he couldn’t keep it in his pants before his son was born and then got someone else pregnant.
He left your son in the car at a supermarket and staff had to call police.
He’s not exactly father of the year and doesn’t sound like he that bothered about his children.
You don’t need to stress about him, it’s highly unlikely he would get access unless supervised and that’s sometime in the future If he bothers at all.

JustAFear · 04/12/2024 14:40

Stop chasing him. None of this is your responsibility, or really even your business. Why are you phoning multiple police stations to find out what is happening? They shouldn’t be releasing any information to you, it’s nothing to do with you.

Sit back, look after your child.

Put in a child maintenance claim, it’ll find it or it won’t, at some point he’ll be out of prison and you want that claim to be pre-existing.

If he gets in touch, then you allow supervised contact. If he’s this much of a nightmare I’d take it to court for it to be court ordered supervised contact.

Mrsttcno1 · 04/12/2024 14:39

There’s nothing you can or need to do right now. If he’s not in contact with you then it’s not as if he’s asking to see you or his child so right now it’s a non-issue.

Police aren’t going to give out information to anyone who doesn’t absolutely need it or have a legal right to have it, so calling the police isn’t going to get you anywhere.

For now, forget about it and live your life as usual. If or when you hear something else then you can make further decisions then.

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:35

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 14:26

He left you while you were pregnant
He involved himself in fathering another child while your baby was still tiny
The charges against him are serious and substantiated enough for them not to have been dropped over all these months
It may be that he is found guilty of abuse and child abuse-would you want that in your child's life?
He is not bothering to contact you or take an interest in your baby. People on remand are allowed phone calls, letters etc.

I honestly don't know why you would pursue this. I would be doing my best NOT to have him in my child's life. Setting your child up for a lifetime of disappointment, forgotten/ cancelled visits, a father who can't be bothered with them, or worse, a Dad in prison.

Let go.

If he is found guilty of that there is no way I would want him in my childs life. He always has said either way he will take me to court for access if I cut him.off but I guess if he is guilty that would be supervised. However police are saying no crime has been committed but rhen another police station were saying he has been remanded for breaching bail.So police are even telling me different things

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SpryCat · 04/12/2024 14:35

Stop trying to get in touch with his ex as you know she doesn’t like you so nothing good would come of it if she did speak. Your son is your only priority and I would be making sure he is protected as it could be all true, he left you when you were pregnant. All you’ve seen is him visiting your son and not him having him one to one. He left you for someone else whilst you were pregnant without giving a thought to you and unborn baby, you say his relationship with ex was toxic but was it really? Or are you being fed lies to keep you sweet in case he wants to come back? You have a gorgeous son and should realise by now he did you a favour by leaving as he is a cheat and a liar and had he stayed you could be you the one having to go to the police to report abuse of your son.

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:34

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 14:27

Is he the one that left the child in the car at a supermarket and the staff called the police?

Yes he is. that's when I stopped the unsupervised contact and allowed just supervised contact and then it's just been one thing after another. He has been saying his ex is trying to stop contact as she is 'crazy and bitter' because they split up and is making up.all these lies. Of course I'm not going to believe that. I just don't know the truth I don't know any information and as I said I've just been kept in the dark

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Whammyammy · 04/12/2024 14:31

Jeez. Cut thst loser off

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 14:27

Is he the one that left the child in the car at a supermarket and the staff called the police?

ClicketyClickPlusOne · 04/12/2024 14:26

He left you while you were pregnant
He involved himself in fathering another child while your baby was still tiny
The charges against him are serious and substantiated enough for them not to have been dropped over all these months
It may be that he is found guilty of abuse and child abuse-would you want that in your child's life?
He is not bothering to contact you or take an interest in your baby. People on remand are allowed phone calls, letters etc.

I honestly don't know why you would pursue this. I would be doing my best NOT to have him in my child's life. Setting your child up for a lifetime of disappointment, forgotten/ cancelled visits, a father who can't be bothered with them, or worse, a Dad in prison.

Let go.

Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:18

nfkl · 04/12/2024 13:46

"I've always allowed contact as I wanted my son to have his dad in his life."
It is not about what you want. It is about how things are.

I don't know if you have this urge because your own childhood was not great and you wanted different for your child, or if you pine for this man because you're in love, or because you don't want to admit your child is not the result of a loving relationship with a good man, but of some ons or brief situationship with a lowlife. And it's really ok to feel this way or to have had these aspirations.

But you need to stop and look at things as they are: the father of your child is accused of abuse and violence up to the point he was incarcerated. On top, he seems to have never been in a solid committed relationship with you.

So, you give your head a solid wobble, handle your dreams and your grief on your own, and you stop projecting these fantasies on a suspected abuser. Even if the accusations are false, I really wouldn't push to make a dad/son relationship happen. It's up to the father to act as a father, not to you to facilitate it for him.

I know I am terribly rough, and I actually would like to give you a big hug, but it's how it is.

I certainly am not in love with him. I just guess I never expected this to happen and all of this mess to happen whenever I've seen him with our son he seemed like a loving father and my son did love him and I guess I just encouraged thar relationship. But now yes there's too much going on and my focus is my son

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Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:17

Keleshey · 04/12/2024 13:43

Are you in contact with any of his family? could you ask them what's going on?

If not then what about his ex who he has a baby with? perhaps being in touch with her would be a good thing anyway so that your DS could have a relationship with his half sibling?

Ultimately with little information I don't think I would cut contact but keep it supervised (if/when he shows up). Keep asking around for information so that when you do make a decision it will be an informed one.

I am very much of the belief that a child deserves contact with both of their parents unless they prove to be a danger (either physically or psychologically). Denying your child his right to see his father based on rumour and speculation could be quite damaging and cruel but I absolutely do understand your concerns, I've been there myself!

His ex hates me. She always has. She has blocked me off everything.i tried contacting her mother as I was very upset and concerned to ask what was going on and her mother then ignored and blocked me.

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Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:16

Keleshey · 04/12/2024 13:43

Are you in contact with any of his family? could you ask them what's going on?

If not then what about his ex who he has a baby with? perhaps being in touch with her would be a good thing anyway so that your DS could have a relationship with his half sibling?

Ultimately with little information I don't think I would cut contact but keep it supervised (if/when he shows up). Keep asking around for information so that when you do make a decision it will be an informed one.

I am very much of the belief that a child deserves contact with both of their parents unless they prove to be a danger (either physically or psychologically). Denying your child his right to see his father based on rumour and speculation could be quite damaging and cruel but I absolutely do understand your concerns, I've been there myself!

Hi yes I am in contact with his family. The police are also telling them nothing. His family don't even know what's going on. I don't know if he has breached his bail and gone near his ex or contacted her but we haven't heard anything and the police will not tell us anything. So I'm just kept in the dark. But for now I will leave it and yes I won't allow contact until this is sorted if it is ever sorted and until i know the truth

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Leabee1234 · 04/12/2024 14:14

Iloveagoodnap · 04/12/2024 11:55

If he's not contacting you and you can't contact him then you don't need to do anything (other than put in a child maintenance claim if not already done so). Try not to stress about it - this is not your problem to solve, it's up to him to get in touch with you about contact with his child. In the mean time tell your SW you don't know where he is and currently have no contact with him and that you will inform them if this changes. Then just try and enjoy your baby and the Christmas period x

Thank you I didn't think I could put a claim in if he's actually in prison which I assume he is. No idea what's going on

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oakleaffy · 04/12/2024 13:49

Sounds a waster .
Cut off this mess.

nfkl · 04/12/2024 13:46

"I've always allowed contact as I wanted my son to have his dad in his life."
It is not about what you want. It is about how things are.

I don't know if you have this urge because your own childhood was not great and you wanted different for your child, or if you pine for this man because you're in love, or because you don't want to admit your child is not the result of a loving relationship with a good man, but of some ons or brief situationship with a lowlife. And it's really ok to feel this way or to have had these aspirations.

But you need to stop and look at things as they are: the father of your child is accused of abuse and violence up to the point he was incarcerated. On top, he seems to have never been in a solid committed relationship with you.

So, you give your head a solid wobble, handle your dreams and your grief on your own, and you stop projecting these fantasies on a suspected abuser. Even if the accusations are false, I really wouldn't push to make a dad/son relationship happen. It's up to the father to act as a father, not to you to facilitate it for him.

I know I am terribly rough, and I actually would like to give you a big hug, but it's how it is.

Christmascrumbling · 04/12/2024 13:46

You have a duty to safeguard your DC and on the information supplied all you can do is cut him off. Don't take risks with your childs safety, especially when you aren't being forced to by a court.