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To ask how you juggle childcare and work?

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Stillgardening9 · 04/12/2024 10:21

will be returning to work next year following on from maternity leave. I am looking for a new job as current job isn’t suitable which is a struggle in itself. Struggling to think about how much of a job it will be to manage childcare and working full time - if I work 9-5 it will be hard going to pick up DC from nursery and then getting home and sorting tea etc. I am hoping to work from home - would it be unreasonable to assume I can look after a toddler whilst I work? Alternatively, I could work 4 days then I could still have an extra day where we can go to playgroup and do things but money is a big factor in this. Could I have your experiences?

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NewName24 · 13/12/2024 17:01

It seems you don't know what sarcasm is @GivingitToGod . Neither os @TrippTover 's posts were sarcastic.

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 13:51

TrippTover · 13/12/2024 12:03

There was no sarcasm in my post. I think you’re confused. Hope your day gets better! 💫

Another sarcastic post

TrippTover · 13/12/2024 12:03

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 10:31

I'm unsure why you felt the need to provide this sarcastic response?
And IMO, everyone's post is worthy of posting

There was no sarcasm in my post. I think you’re confused. Hope your day gets better! 💫

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 10:31

TrippTover · 13/12/2024 09:38

Was this worth posting? I didn’t say anything that goes against what you said 😵‍💫

Also surely you mean several million?

Edited

I'm unsure why you felt the need to provide this sarcastic response?
And IMO, everyone's post is worthy of posting

TrippTover · 13/12/2024 09:38

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 09:31

Several people juggle with working FT including school holidays and have to find a way, even if it means you have to source separate cc during school holidays. Your setup serves your family well, others have to make it work with what is available. Needs must

Was this worth posting? I didn’t say anything that goes against what you said 😵‍💫

Also surely you mean several million?

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 09:37

Justus6 · 05/12/2024 18:53

You cannot do a job and look after a toddler at the same time I tried you work suffers 100% and your stressed to the max. Def not worth it. It's better the child is in childcare.

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WFH and caring for kids DOESN'T work
Simply not possible

GivingitToGod · 13/12/2024 09:31

TrippTover · 05/12/2024 19:07

I work term-time, I really can’t imagine our household working if I had to work in the school holidays. It’s like 13 weeks isn’t it? Well, I can imagine it but it does not sound calm or fun.

I work part time and a big proportion is evenings. DH works from home so no commute/can finish an hour early and so as I leave for work he stops work and starts looking after the kids.

After school club one night a week.

Nursery for DD

Several people juggle with working FT including school holidays and have to find a way, even if it means you have to source separate cc during school holidays. Your setup serves your family well, others have to make it work with what is available. Needs must

Suzuki76 · 12/12/2024 17:49

kiraric · 11/12/2024 17:26

I assume that's because your childcare availability isn't good.

We honestly don't have huge issues - ours are primary aged. The school wraparound is great, there are plenty of holiday clubs that run 8-9 to 5-6pm, for the insets or Christmas holidays when there is nothing, we take leave

You assume correctly. Holidays clubs run until 4pm, breakfast club has been full since DS started reception and we can't both take leave at Christmas as not everyone works in a shutdown office so one of us ends up using a big chunk in December. This is why I now work 9.30-2.30.

GivingitToGod · 12/12/2024 10:37

Smorgs2014 · 07/12/2024 09:04

I job share with a woman who works from home with 2 kids under 4 - it's a nightmare - I am constantly having to work more than my hours to pick up the work she isn't getting done. I want to be supportive but honestly, please don't do this, it doesn't work it just causes stress for everyone and leaves small children bored and miserable.

WFH with 2 kids under 4??????? How can this ever be allowed?

GivingitToGod · 12/12/2024 10:34

fitzwilliamdarcy · 11/12/2024 17:20

I assume your husband's employer employs women who have children. I'm also assuming that they've had to make their work flexible. Your DH needs to do whatever they're doing.

People at my workplace WFH with toddlers to save money on childcare and it's created so much resentment with the rest of us who are picking up their slack when they're AWOL for half the day. Don't do it!

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Its not possible to work and care for children. No wonder people feel resentful

kiraric · 11/12/2024 17:26

Suzuki76 · 11/12/2024 17:01

To be honest I found it wasn't really the nursery years that were an issue - except the inevitable illnesses. It was open 51 weeks a year and ours was very flexible (also only £6 an hour). It's KS1 that we have struggled with! 13 weeks school holidays (and inset days) is brutal.

I assume that's because your childcare availability isn't good.

We honestly don't have huge issues - ours are primary aged. The school wraparound is great, there are plenty of holiday clubs that run 8-9 to 5-6pm, for the insets or Christmas holidays when there is nothing, we take leave

Parker231 · 11/12/2024 17:26

fitzwilliamdarcy · 11/12/2024 17:20

I assume your husband's employer employs women who have children. I'm also assuming that they've had to make their work flexible. Your DH needs to do whatever they're doing.

People at my workplace WFH with toddlers to save money on childcare and it's created so much resentment with the rest of us who are picking up their slack when they're AWOL for half the day. Don't do it!

We had a policy no wfh with under 10 year old children. If you were found out, it’s five days a week in the office.

GivingitToGod · 11/12/2024 17:24

Ablondiebutagoody · 04/12/2024 10:25

You can't wfh and look after a toddler.

My experience is dropping ds at nursery around 8am and picking him up just after 5pm. Then squeezing in dinner, play, bath etc. It actually gets harder at school when they start doing stuff in the evening. Not ideal for anyone but needs must.

This entirely, I could have written this myself. Like being on a hamster wheel, constantly running and feeling exhausted. I always worked FT, single parent.
CC costing a fortune, no spare cash etc etc. As PP said, needs must!
Take care of yourself and NO, you can't WFH with a baby/toddler

fitzwilliamdarcy · 11/12/2024 17:20

I assume your husband's employer employs women who have children. I'm also assuming that they've had to make their work flexible. Your DH needs to do whatever they're doing.

People at my workplace WFH with toddlers to save money on childcare and it's created so much resentment with the rest of us who are picking up their slack when they're AWOL for half the day. Don't do it!

Suzuki76 · 11/12/2024 17:01

kiraric · 11/12/2024 08:34

@Greeneyegirl I kind of think this too.

I think it only becomes hard if you can't use proper childcare for all of your working hours - for cost or availability reasons

Or if you won't do so - because you feel guilty or something so won't use the full hours. E.g. if you run yourself ragged to pick up at 5 when your nursery is open till 6.

To be honest I found it wasn't really the nursery years that were an issue - except the inevitable illnesses. It was open 51 weeks a year and ours was very flexible (also only £6 an hour). It's KS1 that we have struggled with! 13 weeks school holidays (and inset days) is brutal.

kiraric · 11/12/2024 08:34

@Greeneyegirl I kind of think this too.

I think it only becomes hard if you can't use proper childcare for all of your working hours - for cost or availability reasons

Or if you won't do so - because you feel guilty or something so won't use the full hours. E.g. if you run yourself ragged to pick up at 5 when your nursery is open till 6.

Greeneyegirl · 11/12/2024 07:25

I think people make it sound much harder than it is. We wake at 7. DH gets ready for work, I chuck sweats on and get up DD and get her ready for nursery. DH works out the house and leaves at 7.20. I leave at 7.25, drop DD at nursery at 7.30, I'm home by 7.35. I then have an hour and a half at home before I need to log on. I can chill, do housework, prep dinner. WFH 9-5.30. Pick up DD 5.35. Shes had all three meals plus snacks at nursery so it's another little snack and a cuddle for an hour, bath at 6.30 and then into bed. Nursery do everything for you. They're our easy days.

Anonimouse12345 · 09/12/2024 09:18

It’s a nightmare.

I do backshift so start at 2pm and work late. DH collects children.

I don’t think WFH is realistic.

Welshmonster · 09/12/2024 09:16

Your partner needs to adapt. It’s the 21st century. Make sure you pay your national insurance as you need to have 35 years to get your state pension so women are disadvantaged later on in life. Partner can apply for flexible working. Don’t accept excuses. I know two paramedics who both work long shifts and have to make it work.

BlueSkies1981 · 08/12/2024 08:06

so just to add it’s hard work but you do what you have to do! My daughter is now an adult 🫣 but I worked pretty much full time all of her life and had to juggle childcare and a very full on job in social care. This was before working from home was a thing… it’s hard work but you will find your way!

Smorgs2014 · 07/12/2024 09:04

I job share with a woman who works from home with 2 kids under 4 - it's a nightmare - I am constantly having to work more than my hours to pick up the work she isn't getting done. I want to be supportive but honestly, please don't do this, it doesn't work it just causes stress for everyone and leaves small children bored and miserable.

Devon23 · 06/12/2024 16:30

Consider a career change, childminder? That way you can take care of your child and get paid at the same time by looking after a few more. The pays good.

AnnoyinglyOptimistic · 06/12/2024 15:20

Currently on maternity leave, returning to work in March, regular 9-5 hours but flexible start/finish if necessary and make up hours outside of core hours. WFH full time.

Prior to mat leave this time around, DD1 (aged 2) was in nursery Mon/Thu/Fri, with her GPs Tues morning and with her GGPs Weds morning - both until roughly 1pm. Tues & Weds afternoons she was with me; she napped for 2 hours during which time I worked and I was able to either work while she was awake and played or complete work with no urgent deadline after she was in bed at night. Nursery is 5 minutes from the house so drop off at 08:55 and pick up at 17:05. My manager aware and happy with the arrangement.

When I go back, DD1 (will be 3 by then) will be doing Mon/Thu/Fri and Weds morning in nursery, and Tues morning with GPs. DD2 (9 months) will be doing Mon/Thu/Fri in nursery and Tues morning with GPs along with DD1. I will have DD2 all day Weds, and both children Tues afternoons.

I'm able to make it work, largely because I can juggle my workload and catch up outside of core hours if necessary. My FIL is also on hand to take the children along with him when he's walking his dogs as well if I'm inundated with work.

I don't have a plan in place yet for when DD1 starts school but will cross that bridge when I get to it. I know I'm very fortunate to have a flexible working arrangement but endeavour to not take liberties so it'll be a case of striking a balance. Personally I don't find it too difficult working while my children are with me.

ChaoticCrumble · 06/12/2024 08:37

A good nursery will offer kids dinner and the little ones will only need a snack after at home, so all you need to worry about re food is yourself just as you would after a normal day's work. It may be better to seek fuller time work where you will have more opportunities than to bend yourself to be part-time everything where your husband lives as normal and you find yourself on a lower wage.

I say this as a point of hypocrisy as I did in fact drop a day to go part time, but I did still work and kids went to nursery. It's actually much easier when they're nursery age than when they;re school age.

Mamabear487 · 06/12/2024 07:53

I wfh 3 days a week 9-3 and drop one kid at breakfast club at 7.30 and the other to the childminders for 8. It’s impossible to get anything done with my toddler around (he’s just turned 3) and I absolutely hate it when I have no child care and he has to be home while I’m working. You need to source proper childcare if you plan to wfh. And for your own sanity