To think this attack on London Jewish schoolchildren should have been headline news

I am looking into a Jewish daycare for my new baby..

The daycare is on a site which includes a synagogue, rabbinic college, reform judaism hq plus the nursery. Coincidentally I visited the site 4 years ago as it also has a mikveh which I immersed in as part of my conversion requirements. There was a guard but I don't recall the level of security that it currently has..

Not only is there a guard at the gate, but you have to sign in on an iPad and a sticker with your photo is autogenerated. You have to wear the sticker and when you leave, the security guards makes sure that the sticker is disposed off. It is literally tighter than airport security.

Tbh this isn't new, my dh is from the same school those kids went to and he said kids from a nearby school used to throw pebbles at his window too. It is a very fraught difficult situation, my dh still has a lot of sympathy for the palestinian cause despite the way he was treated which is different from many of his peers who are ardent zionists. In a sense people like him are the loneliest.

So much whatabouttery on this thread

And knife crime isn't?

Yes but how actually is this relevant to the actual events in London?

Or are you telling me that hate attacks on British Jews including children will immediately cease if Israel surrender to Hamas?

So, not just stone throwing. Absolutely terrifying bigoted thuggery.

I haven't mind excuses for the attacks so don't lecture me on it. What do you mean I don't know what happens? I do know of stabbings that haven't been headline news.

Yes. The police said "'Stones were thrown at the bus before a group of other students got on and made antisemitic remarks towards those on board." A parent reported it.

I'm not minimising it. I absolutely agree that it's terrible and the perpetrators should be prosecuted. However giving even stabbings aren't always headline news it's hardly surprising this isn't either.

Where on earth did I say or suggest that?

My point was that a lot of the liberal left wing types who like to champion diversity often hold anti semetic views

Please don't start with 'this' racism is worse than 'that' racism b!&&!cks.

You don't know what happens any more than anyone else does. However I do know that making excuses for attacks on Jewish children makes you either stupid, anti-semitic or, more likely, both.

You think I'm not very bright to think that most crimes are not headline news in the UK?! Even stabbings of children are not always headline news nowadays unfortunately. You live a sheltered life if you don't know that..

@Echobelly

Outside of London Jewish children are usually at regular schools including Church of England ones.

There are Muslim and Hindu state schools too but again not everywhere.

Personally id like to see all schools integrated as it is better to have a society that supports each other and doesn't see different religions as odd, being taught alongside each other is a good first step. Specialist religious education can take place outside of school hours eg as happens with madrassahs. I am aware of the historical context of the Church of England schools particularly in rural areas but it's not insurmountable

It’s awful. These children have nothing to do with anything that is happening in Israel - they are British children - and anyway, they are children so not responsible for any actions of adults.

If you traumatise children like this they’re more likely to be radicalised when they’re adults too.

We need to promote an inclusive culture so that all British children grow up feeling they belong and are safe here - and will therefore feel a sense of attachment to their country as adults.

I just think communities are better placed to create a positive culture about religious differences in their locality.

The schools involved here could make a big difference to the attitudes of their own pupils.

Then you're not very bright.

Did you read the article or are you accidentally minimising the criminality?

…in reply to someone saying that it wouldn’t be reported for other religions either.

I think that all the people who think that stones thrown at a school bus would normally make headline news are quite ignorant too though.

It absolutely should be headline news. There are so many ignorant people who blame innocent citizens of this country for something happening abroad.

It's not a daily occurrence but unfortunately not very rare.

The thing with racism towards Jewish people is it often comes from the left as well as the right....in a way that racism which affects other minorities doesn't. A lot of the anti racist protests which happened recently had lots of anti Zionist signs..

Yet these children are being teased and others are being slaughtered. Israel needs to seriously broker peace now.

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So what? How does a bunch of animals attacking a school bus facilitate peace being brokered?

Or are you saying until it happens, it's fair game on Jewish kids?

Such a shame you are feeling that way.

Is this in London or perhaps another big city?
I only ask because I can't imagine that kind of attitude prevailing in the coastal town I am in. We have a very diverse community due to a large refugee intake over 20 years but very little division.
Community leads have made a big effort to hold public events for all cultures such as cooking and tasting events, craft and music. It's been really good to share tastes and unique traditions.

I wonder if that could that work between schools in a city to eradicate this kind of hostility that seems to pervade when people grow up not understanding each other.

It is grotesque, but acts of violence against all minorities usually are. There are attacks directed towards Muslim and Traveller/Gypsy children all the time (and I'm sure lots of others), and no one bats an eyelid, it's considered par for the course. Certainly not true that the Prime Minister talks about it, if that was the case that would be his only topic.