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To think this attack on London Jewish schoolchildren should have been headline news

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ThisPerkySheep · 04/12/2024 08:06

I have been waiting for this story to go mainstream, and I’m shocked that it hasn’t.

So far, it seems only the Daily Mail has reported on it - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142235/amp/Jewish-children-terrified-thugs-London-bus-rocks-Israel.html.

When are we going to start taking the threats against Jews in the UK seriously and actually do something about it?

Thugs throw rocks at bus with Jewish children and yell 'f*** Israel'

Students at JFS in Kenton, north London, were travelling on buses operated by Uno, when the vehicles were set upon by a group of teenage thugs at a bus stop in Edgware, on Wednesday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142235/amp/Jewish-children-terrified-thugs-London-bus-rocks-Israel.html.

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TriesNotToBeCynical · 04/12/2024 09:45

ByMerryKoala · 04/12/2024 09:19

God, the gas lighting on this thread is turbo charged.

So, the anti-Semitism should be ignored because 1) it's just a facsimile of anti-Semitism. 2) if it is anti-Semitism it's best for Jewish people to pretend it isn't because a) it will be worse for them because they will be more fearful b) it might encourage other people to pretend that they are anti-Semitic.

Shame on the lot of you.

Edited

I didn't say it shouldn't be reported, and dealt with if possible. I just said it perhaps wasn't national news, because such misbehaviour is so common. When more serious attacks or attacks by adults occur I should very much like to hear about them.

neverthmore · 04/12/2024 09:44

Fuck sake, some of the posters on this thread, minimising an overtly racist attack with ' Well, that's just kids for you!'

Presumably in the 70s and 80s these posters would also have been waving away racist attacks on south Asian and black heritage kids with a sprightly intoned, 'Children will be children!'

Or maybe they wouldn't. Maybe its just attacks on Jews they refuse to see as racist. Its probably the latter, isn't it?

Deathraystare · 04/12/2024 09:43

I suppose the media thought Greg Wallace was more news worthy. He is not but still...

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 04/12/2024 09:43

Fuck me, that’s your take on this? Kids who’ve likely been nowhere near Palestine and have no part in the horrific events going on there are attacked as they leave school, purely because of their religion and your response is ‘I’m sure they’ll get over it’. What’s wrong with you?

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This. When I was about 8 we lived in N Ireland (dad was in the army) and to get to school our bus (army kids only) had to drive through a small majority catholic town. On several occasions we had adults throwing bricks and metal piping at windows, often breaking them. It was fucking terrifying every time it happened.

SunQueen24 · 04/12/2024 09:42

It’s an absolutely abhorrent act, but I don’t think it’s fair to say nothing is done in response. In the UK I get the impression that all bigotry, racism and acts of violence are taking seriously. There is more tolerance here than elsewhere in the world.

Echobelly · 04/12/2024 09:39

As a Jewish parent I must say I am glad my kids aren't at a Jewish school right now (they were in primary). This is an awful attack and must have been very frightening.

I feel it important to separate this kind of incident from justified protest against the actions of the Israeli government. One of my problems with the daily mails of this world is they tend to use nasty incidents like this to try to silence protest and brand it all as antisemitism. Netanyahu has made all Jews and Jewish sites around the world targets with his warmongering, sadly.

Annabella92 · 04/12/2024 09:38

Yes it should be reported but its not going to be because it doesn't serve the interests of power who plan to continue importing foreign populations - and guess what? This also imports their ethnic conflicts to our soil.

These poor children must have been so frightened. I don't know how we can deal with these tensions.

HappyTwo · 04/12/2024 09:35

Poor kids how terrifying for them.

Lettherebejustice · 04/12/2024 09:34

For anyone who hasn't read the article i have highlighted this below. This is shocking and unacceptable!

A witness revealed: 'They were also swearing at us, saying, 'Fck Israel, nobody likes you. Fck off you btches.'*
Another youngster who was involved in the incident said some of the children ran off the bus to escape the attack, while others cowered under their seats.
They were 'completely terrified', they said, adding that the thugs were seen filming the incident on their phones.

Switcher · 04/12/2024 09:33

Some people have hate in their hearts. They will be punished one day.

TENSsion · 04/12/2024 09:33

toucheee · 04/12/2024 09:26

You think anti-Muslim attacks are headline news?

Stop playing off communities against each other.

The attack on the Jewish school kids was deplorable, as is any racist attack on any community.

I didn’t say they weren’t deplorable. I didn’t say attacks on any groups are ok.

I said some groups are deemed more newsworthy.

Greyrocked · 04/12/2024 09:33

caramac04 · 04/12/2024 09:28

I hadn’t read or heard about this and am horrified.
How anyone can think it’s acceptable to deliberately harm and frighten children?
Targeted for being Jewish???? WTAF!
Behaviour like this needs to be stopped and punished along with educating the perpetrators.
It makes me shudder to think this could escalate.
Hitler gradually removed the rights of Jewish people to move around freely, work, live and socialise.
Then he graduated to genocide.
We cannot stand by and marginalise people with beliefs different to our own.
Jewish people are not the threat.

No one thinks Jewish people are a threat. I absolutely do think the far right are a threat. I also think they are impacting governments around the world and our own population. We should be standing for liberal, democratic values which include the right to self determination, the right to practice your religion without fear, the right to live in peace with all, the right to a family life.

The very same beliefs that mean I am very concerned about Palestinians is the reason I am appalled by Jewish school children being attacked. I honestly think this is a really common view. People who are genuinely concerned about Palestine are absolutely not okay with Jewish people being attacked or scared either! No one should be living in fear. Full stop.

LBFseBrom · 04/12/2024 09:31

I'd read about it a couple of times and I don't read the Mail if I can help it.

It is simply appalling, I hope at least some of those who perpetrated the offence were identifiable.

HopeMumsnet · 04/12/2024 09:31

Hi all,
Thanks to those who have reported the posts that concerned them on this thread, as you can see we have removed a fair few. We're content for the thread to continue however we would politely request that everyone reads the newspaper article itself prior to posting, as it appears to clear up possible misapprehensions.

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 04/12/2024 09:29

You’re 100% right.. these poor children.

caramac04 · 04/12/2024 09:28

I hadn’t read or heard about this and am horrified.
How anyone can think it’s acceptable to deliberately harm and frighten children?
Targeted for being Jewish???? WTAF!
Behaviour like this needs to be stopped and punished along with educating the perpetrators.
It makes me shudder to think this could escalate.
Hitler gradually removed the rights of Jewish people to move around freely, work, live and socialise.
Then he graduated to genocide.
We cannot stand by and marginalise people with beliefs different to our own.
Jewish people are not the threat.

wombat15 · 04/12/2024 09:27

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/12/2024 09:20

It's appalling and should not be tolerated. This thread should just be humane responses but out come the ill informed, full blooded racists, and their liberal (racist lite) enablers. Some of you should be ashamed by your attempts to normalise or minimalise this behavior. It's violent racism pure and simple. Jewish people ARE subjected to double standards.

It absolutely shouldn't be tolerated and those who threw the stones should be prosecuted. The fact that it isn't headline news is not evidence of antisemitism though.

toucheee · 04/12/2024 09:26

TENSsion · 04/12/2024 08:48

Hmm I can think of examples where it would be if the demographics different.

You think anti-Muslim attacks are headline news?

Stop playing off communities against each other.

The attack on the Jewish school kids was deplorable, as is any racist attack on any community.

Tess150 · 04/12/2024 09:25

How terrifying being a child on that bus and someone throwing huge rocks at it and then seeing them come on board. The story also talks about a group of school girls having bottles and plates thrown at them from a balcony and one child suffering injuries to her head and face.

How can anyone be trying to justify these things? I'm completely against what's going on in Gaza but these are kids in a completely different country who have no say or influence on what is happening there.

These sorts of incidences might be so common as to not be newsworthy - but that in itself is pretty depressing IMO.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 04/12/2024 09:20

It's appalling and should not be tolerated. This thread should just be humane responses but out come the ill informed, full blooded racists, and their liberal (racist lite) enablers. Some of you should be ashamed by your attempts to normalise or minimalise this behavior. It's violent racism pure and simple. Jewish people ARE subjected to double standards.

ByMerryKoala · 04/12/2024 09:19

TriesNotToBeCynical · 04/12/2024 09:16

I agree anti-semitism shouldn't be tolerated, I just think that this sort of objectionable behaviour by kids against anyone they can identify as "other" is so common it isn't going to get reported every time.

God, the gas lighting on this thread is turbo charged.

So, the anti-Semitism should be ignored because 1) it's just a facsimile of anti-Semitism. 2) if it is anti-Semitism it's best for Jewish people to pretend it isn't because a) it will be worse for them because they will be more fearful b) it might encourage other people to pretend that they are anti-Semitic.

Shame on the lot of you.

Fevertreelover · 04/12/2024 09:18

Racist attacks happen every day. Why should this one need more coverage?

User37482 · 04/12/2024 09:18

Anti-semites have become emboldened. If it’s not anti-semitism why are Jewish people in western countries being attacked?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 04/12/2024 09:16

ByMerryKoala · 04/12/2024 09:11

And they didn't use to jump on the bus and shout "Fuck Israel" afterwards either.

I agree anti-semitism shouldn't be tolerated, I just think that this sort of objectionable behaviour by kids against anyone they can identify as "other" is so common it isn't going to get reported every time.

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