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Anyone else feeling totally ripped off by a Black Friday 'bargain'?

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Pliudev · 03/12/2024 18:34

I probably am being U because if I'd read the small print this might never have happened. I splashed out on buying a suede jacket for my DS as his only present. It cost well over £100 but was reduced by £18 for B F. It arrived today. I was horrified to find a plastic bag, 12" x14" on my doorstep and the jacket stuffed inside. The suede is stiff and smelly and the jacket isn't the shape it appeared on the website. It came from Pakistan, though that isn't a problem, but it was unexpected as no mention of it was made in their website which says it's a UK family firm. Anyway, I've opened a dispute on PayPal but the company said they won't refund because it was 'in the sale' and offered me £20 as a goodwill gesture. I'm pretty hard up this year and this has sickened me. I feel so foolish.

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KrisAkabusi · 03/12/2024 23:54

LigamentBandy · 03/12/2024 22:28

@Gabitule the returning to china was never your responsibility , the seller was taking the piss, knowing you wouldn't post due to the cost . Glad you got sorted

That's not strictly true. If it's in the terms and conditions when you buy that you have to pay return postage, then they are covered. It's how a lot of shady businesses work- hide the fact that its coming from China, knowing its too costly to return.

There's some exceptions, but if you're dealing with a dodgy company, you won't get far with them.

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/a-retailer-is-charging-for-a-return-do-i-have-to-pay-atS1g7a9Phub

A retailer is charging for a return – do I have to pay? - Which?

More stores are beginning to charge customers to make returns on online orders, but how does this affect your consumer rights?

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/a-retailer-is-charging-for-a-return-do-i-have-to-pay-atS1g7a9Phub

WigglyVonWaggly · 03/12/2024 23:27

Yes, you are legally allowed to return an online purchase, even one on sale. It’s specifically to protect people from parting with their money in good faith for an item they’ve never seen. It doesn’t apply to shops - that’s up to them if they do and it goes beyond your statutory rights if they do - because you saw the item in person when you decided to buy it. So don’t worry! PayPal will help.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 03/12/2024 23:24

I wonder if you've bought from a dodgy company, OP, one of the ones that are constantly advertising on Facebook with .co.uk website addresses, and don't admit they are based in China or Pakistan or wherever. It might be worth looking at Trustpilot for negative reviews. If it is one of those companies, they may just ignore your request to return the item, ask you to return the goods at your own cost, or they may offer a partial refund and let you keep it.
However, I hope that Paypal come good and refund you.

Latenightreader · 03/12/2024 23:13

Last year I bought a plug in hob I needed slightly cheaper than usual, and this year I bought a couple of Lego sets and three board games, all of which I had in my basket and all of which were great bargains. I was very nearly sucked into spending more money though, just pulled myself back in time…

mosteensr · 03/12/2024 23:02

Inthechillyhoursandminutes · 03/12/2024 21:46

Yes, feeling totally ripped off by John Lewis.

I had waited ages for a new phone (mine broken) and ordered it on the 22nd, figuring that if they dropped the price further for BF the 7 day Price Promise would kick in.

Instead they dropped the price on the 1st Dec.

They did the same on a TV I was considering. Just glad I didn’t buy that too.

Have learned my lesson though. No more BF purchases from John Lewis for me.

Yes John Lewis have got very sneaky recently. Their old price promise meant that if they reduced the price of anything on their website within thirty five days of you having purchased it they would refund the difference. They’ve now reduced that to seven days but have dressed it up as having improved their pricing by claiming to match other places. However, they say they’ll match places like ARGOS but only if the item you want is actually in stock. This means that if ARGOS has run out of the item for example, JL can and will justify selling it at a higher price and therefore ARE knowingly undersold.

I have lost confidence in them to be honest after years of shopping there.

tachetastic · 03/12/2024 22:51

People will probably correct me, but I think Camel Camel Camel is great for checking how prices on Amazon have changed over the last year and so whether you are getting a good deal. Fingers crossed this links to a page showing price variations for a popular vacuum cleaner but you can then search for any item.....

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0CFVBTCGR?context=search&active=amazon

martinisforeveryone · 03/12/2024 22:50

Oreosareawful · 03/12/2024 20:51

They all come with a two pin plug! 😆

Ours have usb cables to charge. So does our torch.

It might be useful to some https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/ watches Amazon prices and sends alerts.

Sorry just read back and saw it already mentioned.

viques · 03/12/2024 22:48

LivinInYourBigGlassHouseWithAView · 03/12/2024 22:26

FFS. It's on their home page at the top! Plus they always used to refund price differences if discounts took place within a couple of weeks of the original sale.

I know! But one told me it didn’t apply to online sales and the other said it only applied to outside company price matching. I tell you, I am earning that £10 the hard way by reinforcing John Lewis staff customer service training!

Gingernaut · 03/12/2024 22:43

Preg1989 · 03/12/2024 20:54

Just to say, don’t be put off by this - an adapter can be picked up for £2-3, making your purchase still a good deal. Boots, Superdrug etc will have one.

Every Oral B brush I’ve bought has a 2 pin plug. My new Philips is keeping up with the times and has a USB charger.

Thanks

I did see the Philips toothbrushes on sale as well, but the Oral B ones were recommended by colleagues and my dentist

2boyzNosleep · 03/12/2024 22:37

Pliudev · 03/12/2024 19:21

I already told them and that was when they said I wouldn't get a refund. But I've just e mailed them and quoted Mumsnet so they should be quaking in their boots! Thanks to everyone for their advice. I've been trying to convince myself it doesn't really matter in the scale of things, as it's only money but we all know that's not true, especially at this time of year.

Honestly I think you've been scammed rather than falling for a black Friday deal.

Check the website- I bet it doesn't come up on Google. Then Google the company name and trust pilot- you'll see the real reviews for the 'company'.

I also bet that they have nothing but 5 star reviews and lots of positive comments on social media (there's loads of fake websites on facebook). Oh, and it's always a company based in the UK, top quality etc, website looks legit.

I fell for a similar scam, they send you a cheap item to say you recieved the item and make it harder to raise a dispute!

I fell for something similar, ordered a lovely thick memory foam play rug, got a hairband from China! Since then, I've noticed so many fake websites on Facebook, all with amazing reviews!

Dibbydoos · 03/12/2024 22:35

Just closing a cruise deal and it's a corker imo.

But I agree @Pliudev Black Friday etc is a big disappointment, just like most sales are. The best bargain I found was packet noodles for 9p a packet at Aldi 🤩

tachetastic · 03/12/2024 22:30

Pliudev · 03/12/2024 19:21

I already told them and that was when they said I wouldn't get a refund. But I've just e mailed them and quoted Mumsnet so they should be quaking in their boots! Thanks to everyone for their advice. I've been trying to convince myself it doesn't really matter in the scale of things, as it's only money but we all know that's not true, especially at this time of year.

This is more the site you should be showing them, better still the law itself but this might be clearer:

Online, mail and phone order sales
Online, mail and telephone order customers have the right to cancel their order for a limited time even if the goods are not faulty. Sales of this kind are known as ‘distance selling’.

You must offer a refund to customers if they’ve told you within 14 days of receiving their goods that they want to cancel. They have another 14 days to return the goods once they’ve told you.

You must refund the customer within 14 days of receiving the goods back. They do not have to provide a reason.

https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refunds#:~:text=Online%2C%20mail%20and%20telephone%20order,that%20they%20want%20to%20cancel.

Accepting returns and giving refunds: the law

When you do and do not have to offer a refund, repair or replacement, unconditional refunds for online purchases, and penalties for deceiving customers

https://www.gov.uk/accepting-returns-and-giving-refunds#:~:text=Online%2C%20mail%20and%20telephone%20order,that%20they%20want%20to%20cancel.

LigamentBandy · 03/12/2024 22:28

@Gabitule the returning to china was never your responsibility , the seller was taking the piss, knowing you wouldn't post due to the cost . Glad you got sorted

LivinInYourBigGlassHouseWithAView · 03/12/2024 22:26

viques · 03/12/2024 21:50

I am in correspondence (smiley face) with John Lewis atm , over a pathetic £10.00, which is the amount they reduced an item on Friday that I bought on Thursday. Two people/partners have said that refunds only apply to price differences from other suppliers, despite a clear message on their website and in the store that it applies to items bought within the last seven days. Grrr.

FFS. It's on their home page at the top! Plus they always used to refund price differences if discounts took place within a couple of weeks of the original sale.

Anyone else feeling totally ripped off by a Black Friday 'bargain'?
OolongTeaDrinker · 03/12/2024 22:23

I’ve learnt my lesson over the years and only get BF deals on things I’ve had my eye on for a while so I know if they are a decent actually discounted price. This year I got some Lego sets for DCs Christmas gifts, a steam mop, some facial oils, and a carpet cleaning machine for big discounts.

lazyarse123 · 03/12/2024 22:19

I am really pleased with my bf deal.
I have had my eye on a lego model but it was £390, ridiculous I know but I've been wanting it for a year. Anyway I checked Argos and it was £260. So having recently retired I treated myself for working for 50 years and never putting me first.

Gabitule · 03/12/2024 22:13

@Pliudev I had a similar experience. The seller knew they had to refund me, unfortunately the item had been shipped from China, and I was expected to return the item to China, which would have cost a fortune. In the end I managed to get my money back from my bank by proving that the item was not as described (it was substantially different in brand, colour, etc). You have various protections if you used a credit card or debit card (or PayPal, obviously). I hope your seller is in the uk and that will make for a quick and cheap return

fivebyfivebuffy · 03/12/2024 22:03

I was pretty happy with my orders but I didn't get much

Filled my Amazon basket ages ago and checked the prices and total was £190
Checked again on Black Friday and total was £135
Got a new electric toothbrush - are they like sofas and never full price?!
Basically stocked up on boring stuff I needed like cat litter and floor cleaner Blush

borntoblossom · 03/12/2024 22:01

I didn't buy it but I was going to order a Dominoes pizza last week, opened the app and was so annoyed with the 'Black Friday' banners offering 50% off, as if this offer isn't available every bloody day of the year, because they double the price of the pizzas so they can pretend to discount them. And it's still very overpriced.

I was so annoyed I didn't buy it and made myself a meal instead haha. Need to boycott them permanently really for all that nonsense.

JustTwoLostSouls · 03/12/2024 22:00

MargaretThursday · 03/12/2024 18:45

I was keeping an eye on a piece of tech ds wanted on Amazon.
It was listed for around £150.

About a week before Black Friday it went up to £215.
On Black Friday it was listed as 30% off: £150 reduced from £215

Wonder how many people thought they'd got a bargain.

My boss bought a laptop for £700 last year, They had the exact same laptop for sale in the Black Friday sale for £865 two weeks later, He got an email advertising the 'sale' lol

lovemetomybones · 03/12/2024 22:00

I got one amazing thing which is still a deal now. Bobbl hats (which I have one which cost £45 and the Bobble extra) some styles are £5 each and the bobbles are £1. Utter bargain bought a few for birthday presents in the new year!

Grmumpy · 03/12/2024 21:56

If PayPal don’t sort it out try your credit card comp for a chargeback refund although PayPal should sort it out.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 03/12/2024 21:53

Onlyonekenobe · 03/12/2024 20:54

It goes in your shaver socket...in your bathroom....!

I don't have a shaver socket so mine gets charged in the kitchen. It's a shame they aren't all USB chargers now

Bellie710 · 03/12/2024 21:52

Wasn't Rosely London was it?

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