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"Trans people should not be allowed to use women’s showers and changing rooms, proposed NHS guidance says" - Darlington Nurses draft new guidance.

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MrBungle · 03/12/2024 13:47

Is this a reasonable response to the Darlington Nurses issue? (males in female changing spaces)

Wes Streeting requested the Darlington Nurses drafter the guidance.

https://archive.ph/BNTtH (Link to Telegraph article discussing details)

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MyrtleStrumpet · 03/12/2024 14:34

SinnerBoy · 03/12/2024 14:32

Third spaces have been suggested many times, but the TW response is rage and aggression. They're not interested, they want to be in women's facilities and brook no debate on it.

They get off on women being uncomfortable because it's subversive. And they get of on "passing" and being treated as a woman, even if the women are just rolling their eyes and letting it go because they don't want to get into a fight.

PoundlandColumbo · 03/12/2024 14:34

Wellingtonspie · 03/12/2024 14:30

Female. Male. Mixed. Problem solved. Anyone who doesn’t want to use mixed goes in the one their dna aligns with.

I'd be interested to see how this would play out. Will all the handmaids women who insist there's no issue with men being in women's toilets, changing rooms etc choose to use the mixed facilities? I suspect not.

Doliveira · 03/12/2024 14:34

Or use the facilities designed for the DNA you have.

SinnerBoy · 03/12/2024 14:32

Third spaces have been suggested many times, but the TW response is rage and aggression. They're not interested, they want to be in women's facilities and brook no debate on it.

Seekingstyle · 03/12/2024 14:32

Third space is the only way and call it what it is - mixed sex, not gender neutral

GetMyCloak · 03/12/2024 14:31

Changing room use by sex or a third space entirely are the only workable solutions.

I include TM in this, they are often left out of this and it’s assumed that men will be fine to share their spaces with them, but that’s not fair on them either.

Wellingtonspie · 03/12/2024 14:30

Female. Male. Mixed. Problem solved. Anyone who doesn’t want to use mixed goes in the one their dna aligns with.

NordicwithTeen · 03/12/2024 14:30

Everything will have to be able to have a 3rd option - sports, loos, showers, changing rooms. How much do we want to bet the space is taken from female areas of the above?

itsmylife7 · 03/12/2024 14:29

Of course males shouldn't be allowed to use female showers .

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MrBungle · 03/12/2024 14:26

Maybe the title is misleading as well, it should say

"Males not permitted to use Female showers"

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Llttledrummergirl · 03/12/2024 14:05

A third space would be the most sensible and reasonable approach.

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MrBungle · 03/12/2024 14:03

Is a third space the only practical solution to all this? Will that ever be accepted?

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