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Why is my money his money?

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Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 00:23

So DH lost his job about a year ago and despite loads of applications hasn't got anything yet. He has been using savings to pay his share of our expenses but his savings have run out. Today ( refused to talk to me about it before) he talked to me about this and asked if I will pay for everything, rent and bills, from January whilst he tries to get work. I'm not keen at all, possibly can manage it but it will be a stretch. But what really irritated me was he asked me about some money I have in a ninety day notice account and to organise moving it because it will come in useful. I just looked at him in complete disbelief. It's savings that I have worked really hard for and I'm absolutely not using it. It's almost like an instinctive thing, first of all I think of it as my money where as DH refers to all money as "our money." Secondly I can't remember the concept of "our money" applying when he was earning tonnes. We have always had separate accounts. It was just the presumption in his voice that really triggered me. I may consider lending him some money on the understanding I get it back ( he won't be keen) but he just seems to think I'm happily going to fund our entire lifestyle without a murmur of protest. Am I being unreasonable to want to keep my savings to myself?

OP posts:
Brokeandold · 04/12/2024 18:00

I left my old job last year , I had some money in my account to cover a couple of months. I applied and got a job working for Royal Mail over Christmas , night shift . It wasn't a long term plan but we needed my wage. I’m now in another job, have been for 8 months
There are jobs out there, seasonal jobs, so you can work if you want too
I don't understand why people aren't working, I have kids so I could do the school run whilst working nights. My DH works shifts so you make it work .

NobleWashedLinen · 04/12/2024 18:00

Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 00:27

Thank you for your reply. We aren't married and I think he needs to contribute.

If you aren't married then of course YANBU. Getting married means pooling your finances for better or for worse and most certainly whichever partner is bringing in more money it all gets shared. It was confusing that you called him DH in the OP.

Absolutely you should ring-fence your own resources now for the time being.

The question is - is he just a boyfriend or is he a genuine partner? Do you have kids together? If this is a partnership then maybe you might need to subsidise him because he won't be entitled to any benefits for as long as he is living with you, but the flip side of that is that he cannot expect to be subsidised for long and will have to take whatever unpleasant minimum wage job is available rather than waiting around for a well-paid perfect opportunity. If he's just a boyfriend and can no longer afford the lifestyle he wants then he may need to move out because you don't need a cocklodger in your life.

AnnieSnap · 04/12/2024 17:59

Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 00:27

Thank you for your reply. We aren't married and I think he needs to contribute.

You referred to him as DH (darling husband) so you can see why we concluded you are married 🙄 I think YABU because what choice is there assuming that he has genuinely been seeking work and the bills have to be paid. That is unless you are prepared to separate from him.

I would certainly be having a conversation with him about his view of ‘his money’ when he earned more than you, but it sounds like you weren’t on your uppers at the time, whereas he is. If he has used up his savings to pay his way. What more should he do? Maybe you need to take a long, hard look at your relationship. It doesn’t seem as if you see it as a true ‘team’, with each being there for each other when times are difficult!

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/12/2024 17:58

Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 08:19

Sorry. When he was working he earned a lot more money than me, so he paid our rent and I paid our bills, we shared our food bill and incidental bills, petrol, going out etc. . He paid around a third more than me. Since he lost his job he has used his savings to carry on paying the rent and I carried on paying our bills and picked up all food bill, put petrol in the car, any going out we do (which isn't very much). The rent has stayed more or less the same, tiny increase which I pay, all our bills have gone up. So up to now I have probably been paying the same as him and probably more if I added up every thing.

"I will cover all the bills if you cover all of the housework. Here is a list of everything I do in the house, you need to do it as you are at home all day. You sign on to get JSA and sign up to agencies to get any sort of work in the meantime. Until that happens, I will not cover everything"

Harsh but needed. He is navel gazing and contributing nothing, that HAS to stop.

DiduAye · 04/12/2024 17:53

Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 00:27

Thank you for your reply. We aren't married and I think he needs to contribute.

You've referred to him as your DH which means dear husband hence people presuming. marriage

Tigermummy123321 · 04/12/2024 17:51

Is this post a genuine post? There's so many weird holes in it, and such a lack of concrete info that I can't help but think you are taking the P with a fake post. You seem to have left lots if crucial info out , or perhaps it's just a really vague and not particularly well written post. First, you call him DH and then it transpires he isn't your husband. Then you say that he used to earn loads but you split everything "50/50 proportionally" - what does that even mean? Then you add in much later that he is doing nothing in the house in terms of housework. You haven't written if you have children or not. And is he on benefit or not. Then you write that he suggests 'you can get a job'. When someone Then asks if neither of you are working you then say you are working full time but can get another job. As if anybody on this earth wouldn't work or do the housework and suggest instead to the partner working full time already that they get a second job. You're either a fake post or just totally incapable at writing a post with the relevant info. I mean, do you even have children? How has he used Al his savings in one year when he was earning 'loads' as well? And apparently paying 50%

hcee19 · 04/12/2024 17:41

I wouldn't hesitate....He is your husband , l cannot believe what l have just read. You share both the good and, bad times. How sad you feel resentment towards him, asking for help.

MustWeDoThis · 04/12/2024 17:37

housethatbuiltme · 04/12/2024 10:37

But I wouldn't be crying for anything of his... thats the WHOLE point.

I have my money, I don't want his. He has his. That is literally the entire point of keeping it all simple and separate.

I didn't marry him to be a bloody gold digger and feel zero entitlement to his pension etc... I certainly won't cry and demand money thats not mine and its bizarre people even think like that.

The only bizarre behaviour here is yours - Scrooge.

MustWeDoThis · 04/12/2024 17:36

Autumntrees1234 · 03/12/2024 00:23

So DH lost his job about a year ago and despite loads of applications hasn't got anything yet. He has been using savings to pay his share of our expenses but his savings have run out. Today ( refused to talk to me about it before) he talked to me about this and asked if I will pay for everything, rent and bills, from January whilst he tries to get work. I'm not keen at all, possibly can manage it but it will be a stretch. But what really irritated me was he asked me about some money I have in a ninety day notice account and to organise moving it because it will come in useful. I just looked at him in complete disbelief. It's savings that I have worked really hard for and I'm absolutely not using it. It's almost like an instinctive thing, first of all I think of it as my money where as DH refers to all money as "our money." Secondly I can't remember the concept of "our money" applying when he was earning tonnes. We have always had separate accounts. It was just the presumption in his voice that really triggered me. I may consider lending him some money on the understanding I get it back ( he won't be keen) but he just seems to think I'm happily going to fund our entire lifestyle without a murmur of protest. Am I being unreasonable to want to keep my savings to myself?

I'll never understand couples who do not financially support one another- It's abusive. What's more, it's legally half his if you are married. What if it was the other way around? Or does this only apply when it's a man who needs money? What would you do if he financially supported you?

I'm sorry, but I think it's disgusting he's used yours and his money for the past year, and now it's all gone you will not use -yours and his- money to play your part. It's disgusting you can see he is struggling and would rather you both ended up with bad credit. It will bite you, too. Poor guy. Do you actually love him!?

housethatbuiltme · 04/12/2024 10:37

Enough4me · 04/12/2024 00:12

@housethatbuiltme your DH debts reduce his total capital. In a divorce settlement your capital is compared with his in a settlement to reach a fair conclusion. In effect, if he has a massive pension you'd benefit, sadly it sounds like your DH has significant debt which likewise affects you both financially (he'll need a fair amount of capital after a divorce). You can cry to a judge that you want more from a settlement, but you can't pretend he has more capital (so you take more away) when he clearly has debts.
Thems the breaks in marriage!

But I wouldn't be crying for anything of his... thats the WHOLE point.

I have my money, I don't want his. He has his. That is literally the entire point of keeping it all simple and separate.

I didn't marry him to be a bloody gold digger and feel zero entitlement to his pension etc... I certainly won't cry and demand money thats not mine and its bizarre people even think like that.

Meadowfinch · 04/12/2024 08:47

Anotherworrier · 03/12/2024 19:53

Oh for god sake… everyone voting YNBU would t be if the female was the unemployed one.

@Anotherworrier That would be true if it was a couple of months and he was going for everything available. But it's been a year and he's doing very little. Very different

uptheculdesac · 04/12/2024 06:50

OP so let me get this straight, he said YOU could get another job and you have applied for a couple?

Did I read that right?

He wants you to work a second job and do all the housework and pay for everything whilst he applies only for jobs he really really wants?

Is this what you mean he is expecting?

Enough4me · 04/12/2024 00:13

@mathanxiety RTFT

Enough4me · 04/12/2024 00:12

@housethatbuiltme your DH debts reduce his total capital. In a divorce settlement your capital is compared with his in a settlement to reach a fair conclusion. In effect, if he has a massive pension you'd benefit, sadly it sounds like your DH has significant debt which likewise affects you both financially (he'll need a fair amount of capital after a divorce). You can cry to a judge that you want more from a settlement, but you can't pretend he has more capital (so you take more away) when he clearly has debts.
Thems the breaks in marriage!

savethatkitty · 03/12/2024 22:34

Nothing says 'unattractive' more than a man child who doesn't want to work, is lazy & expects to be funded by someone else.

mathanxiety · 03/12/2024 22:29

Threelittleduck · 03/12/2024 20:16

I'm not sure why everyone thinks there are loads of jobs about. Only a fee weeks ago my DD had been out of work for months. She started off applying for jobs she wanted but was then applying for anything, cleaning, retail, care work but got nowhere. Finally she did get a job she wanted but it wasn't easy.
Surely if he's going for lots of interviews and applying he's trying. He can't contribute if he's got no money.
Housework is a separate thing. Tell him if he's home all day he does the housework. Tell him he's responsible for cooking in the evening.
I find your posts a bit confusing tbh. You are annoyed he's not contributing and isn't working, you don't want to support him financially. Then you say you love him and feel sorry for him. Surely if you love him you'd be happy to support him until he's working again.

She can love him very deep down but simultaneously feel very annoyed that he's taking the piss. Love doesn't mean you turn yourself into a mug.

tediber · 03/12/2024 21:24

My money is his and his is mine. We've always been that way even years before we were married. Why, because we are a team and I'd never see him struggling or him me.

To be fair though after a year or even way before I'd be like wtf. This is ur real problem! I'd be expecting him to go out and do anything to earn money, just eat takeaway deliveries, courier job. Are those jobs not fairly easy to get as I think some are technically self employed.

He also shld be doing pretty much everything household related!

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 03/12/2024 21:07

If he says 'yes we could do that or I could get a job...' my first question would be 'Why haven't you then?' He sounds lazy, and appears to have turned into a cocklodger OP. If you own your home, then I would put it on the market, that might be enough to galvanise him. Or, if you rent, start looking for something cheaper, and give notice, if you don't want to be bailing him out for EVER!! Personally, I can't help wondering if he's actually even employable, after a year off without managing to land a job of some sort.

mathanxiety · 03/12/2024 20:55

Enough4me · 03/12/2024 00:25

In marriage the finances need to be shared to a degree. Do you want him to go into debt? Would you consider leaving him?

Paying all the bills is one thing. Paying for his coffees or visits to the pub or hobbies is another thing entirely.

Fraaahnces · 03/12/2024 20:36

He can pull beers, drive an uber, deliver meals, work at Mc Donald’s, etc.., there are loads of jobs. He doesn’t have the luxury of waiting for the perfect one because he has no fucking savings.
He can’t sit on his arse like the princess and the pea referring to the OP’s money as “ours” when he doesn’t lift a finger all day.

Threelittleduck · 03/12/2024 20:16

I'm not sure why everyone thinks there are loads of jobs about. Only a fee weeks ago my DD had been out of work for months. She started off applying for jobs she wanted but was then applying for anything, cleaning, retail, care work but got nowhere. Finally she did get a job she wanted but it wasn't easy.
Surely if he's going for lots of interviews and applying he's trying. He can't contribute if he's got no money.
Housework is a separate thing. Tell him if he's home all day he does the housework. Tell him he's responsible for cooking in the evening.
I find your posts a bit confusing tbh. You are annoyed he's not contributing and isn't working, you don't want to support him financially. Then you say you love him and feel sorry for him. Surely if you love him you'd be happy to support him until he's working again.

Pinkbonbon · 03/12/2024 20:05

Anotherworrier · 03/12/2024 19:53

Oh for god sake… everyone voting YNBU would t be if the female was the unemployed one.

No we wouldn't. Did you even read the post?

Let's reverse shall we?

His partner (unmarried) has not worked in a year. Nor does she ever do anything in the home.
She has asked him to dip into his savings to support her. There is no sign of a job on the horizon or that she intends to do her share in the home.

Nope. She can fuck right off.
Man or woman, makes no difference

SalsaLights · 03/12/2024 20:02

Anotherworrier · 03/12/2024 19:53

Oh for god sake… everyone voting YNBU would t be if the female was the unemployed one.

Disagree - I have seen quite a few threads on MN where the OP has bemoaned the fact that her partner has asked her to work or start contributing, and she's been handed her arse on a plate by hundreds of posts telling her to get a job.

Anotherworrier · 03/12/2024 19:53

Oh for god sake… everyone voting YNBU would t be if the female was the unemployed one.

Mickey79 · 03/12/2024 19:47

Are there any shared children?