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To think access to the Internet should be free?

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PassingStranger · 02/12/2024 16:43

Why do we have to pay something that we all need to use now.
Should Internet be free?

Does anyone remember in it's infancy you paid a subscription and for dealing up too. It might have been so much a minute?

It's such a big part of our life now. Even benefits have to be claimed online?

OP posts:
PaperRecycledCrafter · 02/12/2024 20:04

Many people keep the data centres running smoothly

Storing the emails & other data

PaperRecycledCrafter · 02/12/2024 20:01

Secondly, the internet is currently not free, because there are huge costs for building new infrastructure & maintaining the existing infrastructure for Business & Residential customers.
There is an army of field & office engineers, customer service, sales, administratior, planners, HR, payroll staff, managers, cleaners, caterers, security, CEOs & people keeping everything running 24x7x365

RosieLeaf · 02/12/2024 20:01

When you say free, you mean, taxpayers?

TimeForATerf · 02/12/2024 20:00

Who do you think will pay to maintain the infrastructure for this free internet broadband that’s a human right.

bonkers.

I am convinced MN has been infiltrated with bots. I’ve never read as many ridiculous posts as I have this last week or two.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 02/12/2024 19:55

BESTAUNTB · 02/12/2024 16:47

I know what you mean but as long as libraries and hubs offer free internet access so that people can apply for benefits, I think it’s ok as it is.

What about applying for jobs, too? 😂

MermaidEyes · 02/12/2024 19:55

Whammyammy · 02/12/2024 16:51

Did Jeremy Corbyn offer free Internet?

Jeremy Corbyn for Prime Minister!!

PaperRecycledCrafter · 02/12/2024 19:52

There was a TV programme too about visitors from Papua New Guinea. I believe the only thing they asked to have from the Western World was for 2 of their tribe to be trained as doctors. They said their food, water & land was free

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jungle-tribe-members-come-wales-2252789

Jungle tribe members come to Wales

MEMBERS of one of the world’s remotest tribes had the culture shock of their lives during an eye-opening visit to Wales.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jungle-tribe-members-come-wales-2252789

coffeesaveslives · 02/12/2024 19:49

PencilsInSpace · 02/12/2024 19:09

He calls for public authorities to provide internet access free of charge for those unable to afford it, as well as providing training in basic digital skills training for all citizens and protecting online access from arbitrary interference by states and private companies.

That all sounds reasonable and quite different from what OP seems to be suggesting.

Doesn't that already exist? It certainly does around here.

dreamer24 · 02/12/2024 19:40

Undisclosedlocation · 02/12/2024 16:47

We need housing - should that also be free?😂

And clothes? Food? You could say that about anything really!

Serencwtch · 02/12/2024 19:39

Who would pay for it though?

The NHS, police & other public services are not 'free' they are tax payer funded. Would you want NHS & police services cut in order to fund 'free' internet?

bloodredfeaturewall · 02/12/2024 19:38

MissRoseDurward · 02/12/2024 19:36

He calls for public authorities to provide internet access free of charge for those unable to afford it, as well as providing training in basic digital skills training for all citizens

Someone still has to pay for it. Where are the public authorities getting the money?

you can get this in many libraries.

bloodredfeaturewall · 02/12/2024 19:36

why?
for the price of a landline you can get a sim only contract with pretty much unlimited data & minutes.

MissRoseDurward · 02/12/2024 19:36

He calls for public authorities to provide internet access free of charge for those unable to afford it, as well as providing training in basic digital skills training for all citizens

Someone still has to pay for it. Where are the public authorities getting the money?

coffeesaveslives · 02/12/2024 19:28

I’d love to go back to a time like that where we are not constantly bombarded with ads, sponsored links that direct you to god knows where. But free access is never going to be possible.

Isn't that what adblockers are for?

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 02/12/2024 19:18

I absolutely agree that the internet is essential nowadays. But how to cover the cost of it without charging individuals is another question. We don't get free water, shelter, heating or food, all of which are also essential.

StMarie4me · 02/12/2024 19:14

PeloMom · 02/12/2024 16:44

We all need water, electricity etc too and have to pay for those. How’s internet different?

Exactly!

PencilsInSpace · 02/12/2024 19:09

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/12/2024 17:51

I agree it's become an essential serice, but as PPs have said so are utilities/energy and we expect to pay for those

As for "Birmingham University's report says ...", it's the kind of ideology I'd expect from those involved in academia. A fond idea no doubt, but not really one which intersects with the real world

Edited to add the Birmingham Uni's piece: https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/news/2023/internet-access-must-become-human-right-or-we-risk-ever-widening-inequality

Edited

He calls for public authorities to provide internet access free of charge for those unable to afford it, as well as providing training in basic digital skills training for all citizens and protecting online access from arbitrary interference by states and private companies.

That all sounds reasonable and quite different from what OP seems to be suggesting.

PastaAndProse · 02/12/2024 19:05

PassingStranger · 02/12/2024 17:08

Someone has written about free Internet being a human right. Will see if I can find the link.

Who cares. People write nonsense all the time Confused

Vaxtable · 02/12/2024 19:03

How do you expect the cost of laying cables, providing hubs and keeping the show on the road to be covered? A magic money tree?

CranfordScones · 02/12/2024 18:56

PassingStranger · 02/12/2024 17:08

Someone has written about free Internet being a human right. Will see if I can find the link.

Just because they write it, even if it is on the internet, doesn't make it an indisputable fact.

For people saying "capitalism" - you pay for things under communism too, and usually in more than just money.

LeggyLinda · 02/12/2024 18:26

In its early days the internet was free (to a certain extent). I mean you still had to pay the connection charges, but the content, services and communication platforms that utilised it were free.

I’d love to go back to a time like that where we are not constantly bombarded with ads, sponsored links that direct you to god knows where. But free access is never going to be possible.

If anything, I would like it to be more accessible and safe. Especially as these days so much seems to be dependent upon it - banking, shopping, government services, etc. I’d love it if there was something simple that allowed vulnerable/non-tech fluent people use it. I work in IT field and have relatives that fall into that category. So looked into it - every possible solution adds either complexity or cost.

I love the new interconnected world (though preferred it when it was niche). But now that it is mainstream, it needs to be usable by the masses.

with Christmas approaching, I’ve seen complaints ranging from no longer being able to browse a shopping catalogue through to not being able to check a utility bill from elderly friends. All of them have no connectivity issues - they have and can afford the infrastructure. So the lack of free internet is not the problem. It is the usability and unfamiliarity of this “new world” being the norm that is the problem.

I bet I’m not the only person who spends a large portion of my life frustratingly helping partners/parents/grandparents or disabled relatives achieve the most basic of tasks. Can’t even get a doctor’s appointment or repeat prescription here without an app. Smartphones are not currently compatible with elderly/stroke survivors for example.

JingleB · 02/12/2024 18:25

PassingStranger · 02/12/2024 17:20

Please read my post properly. There's an article by Birmingham University to make the Internet a human right.

Can't people read.💤

Our reading comprehension is just fine, thanks.

Your writing on the other hand...

As for human rights - food, clean water, shelter, warmth and facilities for good hygiene are all a little more pressing and no one's handing those out for free. I repeat, have you not encountered capitalism before?

Ginmonkeyagain · 02/12/2024 18:07

Ummm...... you absolutely do pay to use radio spectrum. Paid your mobile phone bill recently?

Allfur · 02/12/2024 18:04

in the same way we don't pay to use radio waves

Spaffitupthewall · 02/12/2024 18:04

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