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Dad refusing to accommodate SEND daughter's needs at wedding

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Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 14:49

Please help.

My children are close in age. One has SEND. Dad is getting married in January and has refused to accommodate SEND child's needs. But has agreed for NT child to go.
Do I let NT go and keep SEND one with me? Or refuse to let either of them go on principal?
Backstory: there is domestic abuse, coercive control and a history of manipulative and verbal abuse towards both children from Dad.
TIA

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IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 03/12/2024 11:44

Tittat50 · 03/12/2024 11:04

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine I change my child sex and approximate age across threads sometimes ( within a year or 2) because I try not make things too identifiable. I like keeping my user name. Other people might also be doing this sometimes.

Probably not within the same thread, though.

Balloonhearts · 03/12/2024 11:29

I'd find a video on YouTube of a full wedding ceremony. The longest, most boring and unchild friendly one you can find and show it to NT child just 'so she knows what to expect'

Lots of talking to your friends on the phone where DDs can hear about how fucking boring weddings are and how long and how you hate sitting still and silent for so long then having to make drunk conversation with even more boring relatives, how the girls will be the only children there. Also mention that wedding cakes are disgusting fruit cakes so there won't even be any good grub but XH is trying to make it sound fun for them but it won't be.

Then ask if they're SURE they want to go. Or would they rather do xyz fun activity that can only be done on that date.

Tittat50 · 03/12/2024 11:18

@maddening I think sometimes when there's not a great deal of contact it's safer to not rock the boat. If he's one of those controlling types, trying to block things or formalise visitation can make it worse. I only know this from all threads I've read and multiple documentaries on TV where the worst abusers force access, they get it and it is all just to upset the ex or show them who is in control.

From all I've seen the kids and mums are not adequately protected by the law right now. ( I'm no expert I appreciate).

I think she's playing the right way in this particular situation she has.

maddening · 03/12/2024 11:11

Backstory: there is domestic abuse, coercive control and a history of manipulative and verbal abuse towards both children from Dad.
TIA

Why does he have any contact at all?

SunQueen24 · 03/12/2024 11:08

Tittat50 · 03/12/2024 11:04

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine I change my child sex and approximate age across threads sometimes ( within a year or 2) because I try not make things too identifiable. I like keeping my user name. Other people might also be doing this sometimes.

Me too.

Tittat50 · 03/12/2024 11:04

@IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine I change my child sex and approximate age across threads sometimes ( within a year or 2) because I try not make things too identifiable. I like keeping my user name. Other people might also be doing this sometimes.

Fabbyfloofloo · 03/12/2024 10:33

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 03/12/2024 09:43

I don't think I've ever been so distracted that I forgot the sex of my firstborn child.

It's a Christmas miracle! 😂 😂

It's ok, I've reported this and explained my distraction. Hopefully admin will be able to change it to daughter 🙏

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IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 03/12/2024 09:43

Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 20:02

Hahahaha! That was a complete slip after trying to multi task. I have two daughters.

I don't think I've ever been so distracted that I forgot the sex of my firstborn child.

loropianalover · 02/12/2024 23:17

AllIsMerryAndBright · 02/12/2024 22:05

From your dad or their dad? I'm confused.

Very clearly their dad. OP has given lots of updates.

AllIsMerryAndBright · 02/12/2024 22:05

From your dad or their dad? I'm confused.

Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 20:54

ClawedButler · 02/12/2024 15:21

Totally beside the point, but does the bride-to-be have any clue what sort of irretrievably repellent c*nt she's about to marry?

😂 😂

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Caerulea · 02/12/2024 20:52

Good decision OP :)

Have you had any support to help deal with his abuse? This is one of those situations where it's obvious to anyone with brain outside of the relationship what needed to be done but you will still be so affected by his treatment of you it's impossible to see the obvious stuff.

Have a lovely lovely day with your small ppl & maybe try to find a way to work through theclouded thinking he's left in his wake.

Fwiw...anyone who excludes their own child due to them being ND is a cunt of the highest order.

Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 20:42

Thank you for all the responses. I was so torn today and felt in an untenable position. The majority verified what I was already thinking - that both children shouldn't attend. I appreciate your honesty, and now feel like a weight has been lifted.

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DogInATent · 02/12/2024 20:41

Caerulea · 02/12/2024 20:09

Thank you!! I'm stunned this isn't being brought up more. Add to your list the part where he sent abusive messages to the SEND daughter.

OP - why are you facilitating this at all?

The number of people suggesting one daughter should go after they've been told the backstory is quite frankly insane. But not at all unusual for MN.

AnotherEmma · 02/12/2024 20:15

Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 20:02

Hahahaha! That was a complete slip after trying to multi task. I have two daughters.

You can report the thread and ask MNHQ to edit the title if you want.

Caerulea · 02/12/2024 20:09

DogInATent · 02/12/2024 15:35

Backstory: there is domestic abuse, coercive control and a history of manipulative and verbal abuse towards both children from Dad.

There is no court order in place. However, due to issues previously we do handovers in a public place.

SEND doesn't stay overnight at dad's as she can't cope with the inflexible, strong rules at dads.

Sorry, I can't get passed all of these issues to see why you'd want to facilitate sending either child to the wedding. Or facilitating any non court ordered contact.

Thank you!! I'm stunned this isn't being brought up more. Add to your list the part where he sent abusive messages to the SEND daughter.

OP - why are you facilitating this at all?

Fabbyfloofloo · 02/12/2024 20:02

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 02/12/2024 17:12

Your son has become a daughter in a very short space of time!

Hahahaha! That was a complete slip after trying to multi task. I have two daughters.

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 02/12/2024 19:15

Don't allow this bastard to abuse your children. Keep them away from him. He wan't to divide them, that is so harmful.

FestiveFruitloop · 02/12/2024 18:30

Haven't RTFT, but even going by your first post their dad doesn't even deserve them in his life, never mind at his wedding, he sounds an absolute arse. But how sad for your DC, I'm so sorry.

Victoriancat · 02/12/2024 18:04

Honestly sounds like he doesn't want her there at all tbh, he sounds a complete arse!

StripeyDeckchair · 02/12/2024 17:59

Well if both children want yo ho I'd tell him to accommodate SEN child's needs otherwise, as wedding ceremonies are public events open to all, you will take both children to the ceremony and then leave.
I would also make sure the most gossipy members of the family/friends knew exactly why I was doing this prior to leaving.

WoolySnail · 02/12/2024 17:58

I think he's put you in an impossible situation on purpose so that you have to be the bad guy whatever you choose. Of course neither should go. Its just a game/powertrip to him. So protect your children by keeping them away and don't give a toss what other people think. As long as you do what's best for your DC it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks x

2catsandhappy · 02/12/2024 17:54

I wonder if you could maybe swerve the whole thing?
Possibly book, say, a Premier Inn cheap night?
Write it up on a calendar and count down days. Pack a little suitcase with favourite teddies and story book.
'6 more sleeps until our adventure!'
Or trip to the zoo/experience/beach, pack a picnic with treats.
'Which toy wants to go to the zoo/beach?
Distraction, give them their special day.

I see why he is your ex. You are deserving of much better.
I hope it works out well for you and your dd.

cansu · 02/12/2024 17:42

Sounds like there is already a little to sort out without a wrangling over a wedding. I would step back. If the NT child wants to go make it happen. If the send child hasn't seem him in a year and doesn't want to stay over tell them you will do something else nice with them.

SunQueen24 · 02/12/2024 17:37

You’ve still not really said what accommodations your child would need either or how you envisage it working for them?

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