Biden has pardoned his son because his conviction was a "miscarriage of justice".

The thing is that all of it should be too bad for our leaders, but it’s not, because they keep doing this shit and people keep excusing it. Trump has done awful things but that should never excuse another who has done awful things, just because they’re not as awful.

This is what happens when we insist on having a goodie and a baddie and the choice is shit or shitter, the shit one is goodie because the shitter one is baddie. All of it needs to be called out, it’s all bad.

We saw it on here when Starmer accepted a load of gifts, some people wouldn’t here a word said against him and insisted it’s not a problem because they just can’t hear a word said against Labour. Why not just be fair and say it’s wrong but you still believe in him on the whole?

It shows Biden lack of integrity. That Trump lacks integrity too means there are two presidents lacking integrity. It doesn’t cancel it out.

Yes, that they trusted a Trump more than Harris, despite this. Which is very damning of Harris.

Like others I can see why, he’s old and leaving office, it won’t affect him personally for long and he’s lost multiple other children, and he probably doesn’t give a shit about making a good impression any more.

But it’s a terrible look and Hunter Biden is a right piece of work. It’s not like he’s a poor old basically decent guy who unfortunately ended up in prison after one bad decision. I don’t think I would do it even as the parent.

It says a lot about the way American selects its presidential candidates. And the democrats if their voters didn’t realise Biden had stood aside. But blaming the voters for voting the wrong way is hardly democratic.

Sums it up, perfectly.

Any trump supporter outraged over anything regarding the Bidens is an off-the-charts hypocrite.

I’d say it says more about the voters, being that the alternative wasn’t a convicted felon or rapist.

If you can't beat em, join em.

At this point this entire thread is essentially feeding a single troll. Let’s all just go on about our business, and Untidy Bear will soon get bored.

I think it says a lot about the values, moral compass, priorities, and IQ level of the people voting. Wasn't the top search after the election something like "was Biden not running for president?"

No he isn't. He's the president elect. Biden is the President.

Whatever else Trump is, he is the democratically elected President. Voters decided he was better than the alternative. Which says quite a lot about the alternative.

This.

No I'm not. You're supporting powerful men abusing their position. No apples and oranges about it.

But but but but Trump

It's a poor argument and it's the only argument.

Of course you understand, you're blinded to a point where you actually think right wing shills pop up on UK forums when there's no elections for the next 5 years.

A threat to democracy! Don't worry about it, Trump has assured his voters they won't have to vote again - so that's goodbye democracy.

Name a country that isn't...

What did they put Biden through?

The current president just pardoned a criminal because he's his son, how much worse can it get than that? 😂

Electing a rapist and convicted felon. Although doubtless those convictions will “go away” once he’s in office.

Said rapist and convicted felon then pardoning and releasing numerous homicidal “hostages” who stormed Capitol Hill 4 years ago. He won’t even be able to claim he’s blinded by fatherly love, just doin’ it for the LOLZ and to stick it to the opposition.

What Joe is doing is bad but I’d say the above is worse.

@TheTidyBear
Nepotism? Are you saying this in all seriousness? Trump and his daughter and her husband have left the US looking like a laughing stock. I'm not even going into the countless illegal personal profiteering by him and his family.

I completely understand why Biden is pardoning his son.

To be honest, this is what you get when you promote a lawless leader. And I mean Trump. The rules have changed. Anything goes. There's going to be a criminal as the US head of state.

Goodness, you sound rather upset.

Well given that you're empathising with powerful men abusing their position, I thought I'd join in.

You’re drawing a false analogy. As I said, apples and oranges…

Nepotism?? Ever heard of Jared & Ivanka, Lara Trump, the trump sons?

Or maybe some of are aware that this kind of nepotism is a threat to democracy an inexcusable because of someone else's actions.

Seems like you're the one spreading the hate.

Trump has already made it clear that all investigations into his crimes are over. He has pardoned himself. He’s promised to pardon all the J6 rioters. He previously pardoned his daughter’s criminal father in law and has now made him ambassador to France. It’s the shit US system of politicised ‘justice’ plus presidents having this power like an absolute monarchy which is crazy but it’s hardly new. Clinton pardoned his half-brother.