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Teacher treating children too young

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Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 21:40

My child is in a year 3 class, the teacher now sings a song to get them to sit on the carpet and has organised a book advent for this week. The children are 7 and 8, I feel they are far too old to be sung to sit on the carpet. Aibu to talk to the headteacher?

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Foostit · 02/12/2024 00:00

If this isn’t a wind up then I feel sorry for your DC’s teacher and for your DC…

oakleaffy · 01/12/2024 23:59

Violinist64 · 01/12/2024 23:18

I totally agree.

I'm glad others noticed that!

Mumofteenandtween · 01/12/2024 23:58

I wish I could sing about stuff at work…

So far I have…. (To the Skye Boat song tune)

Going to dial into a dull meeting
It will last for hours
can I read BBC news online
Without anyone noticing
Oh yes I can!
I really can!

And now I’m stuck!

Redglitter · 01/12/2024 23:58

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:25

I didn't say it was harming anyone, more that I expected a teacher to not be singing to 8 year old. I would of thought an experienced teacher would have more age appropriate strategies.

How about you do your job & leave the teacher to do theirs

LesterMin · 01/12/2024 23:57

Aside from anything else I'm baffled by the idea that they're too old.

7 and 8 is still really young and as a teacher hearing year 3s be sang to wouldn't have seemed out of place to me.

All the way up to year 6 teachers were using the call and response attention grabbers like "1 2 3 eyes on me" and singing doesn't feel much different to that?

The children sing in music class and in assemblies and school plays. They sing recycling songs when learning about the environment.

I taught year 5 and 6 and while some children preferred not to sing themselves, singing really wasn't anything any of them ever indicated feeling too old for, even in inner city classes with high levels of deprivation where children often were a lot more grown up.

Adults sing too. Why is singing childish?

I don't even know where to start with book advent. Are 8 year olds too old for books or advent calendars?

Tallulah1972 · 01/12/2024 23:57

If it works and creates a calming environment, then I want to know what the song is!

ILoveVeg · 01/12/2024 23:55

"Are you, now? You misspelt ‘presumptuous’, seem to think ‘of’ and ‘have’ are interchangeable, and used ‘moreover’ incorrectly. On what do you lecture?"

That's what I thought too.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 01/12/2024 23:55

7/8 year olds will be singing at Brownies and Cubs. This will include songs to indicate a change in "sections" of the meetings.

Songs are a great way to remember and take in information. It's part of why Horrible Histories was so popular as a teaching aid, there are adults who know history facts due to those songs

You haven't explained how a book advent is too young. It sounds perfect.

oakleaffy · 01/12/2024 23:55

Westofeasttoday · 01/12/2024 23:52

You know what you’re right. I said the head and Ofsted but I don’t think that’s strong enough. 999 maybe too?

Agreed.
It's abusive to get children to settle down and be read to.
What IS the teaching profession coming to.
Just shocking. 📚

Jellybeanz456 · 01/12/2024 23:55

Behave yourself singing a song to children never done any harm!!! And if it gets the children onto the carpet in an easy Manor with as little messing about as possible then keep singing is what I say!

Singing will not stop your child's age development.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/12/2024 23:54

JingleB · 01/12/2024 23:33

@WearyAuldWumman - that’s a great book!

I love it.

I used to get boys complaining when we reached the penultimate chapter: "That's not possible! Tyke can't be..."

oakleaffy · 01/12/2024 23:53

CwmYoy · 01/12/2024 21:49

And this, gentle reader, is what causes teachers to quit.

Really stupid question.

@Someonehelpmeagain Our teacher when we were 10 yrs old, on a Friday afternoon {If we were lucky!} would read to us in last lesson we absolutely LOVED it.

We were allowed to put our heads in our arms on the table- it was great.

Westofeasttoday · 01/12/2024 23:52

RafaistheKingofClay · 01/12/2024 23:13

I’d log it with 111 too. Just in case.

You know what you’re right. I said the head and Ofsted but I don’t think that’s strong enough. 999 maybe too?

ILoveVeg · 01/12/2024 23:50

twoshedsjackson · 01/12/2024 23:47

At the last school in my long career, the staff held an informal award ceremony after the pupils were safely dismissed at lunchtime on the last day of term.
One coveted trophy was "The COTY Cup", a fine pink bone china cup and saucer with gold lettering, COTY being an anagram for "Complaint of the Year", where the merits of instances of monumental nitpicking were forwarded, seconded and put to the vote. A running record was kept though the school year, and documentary evidence gave valuable supporting evidence, thus I would urge you most earnestly to put this in writing; extra points were awarded for solecisms of grammar and spellings.
When class rolls were assigned, it was generally considered that having certain parents in your contact list gave you an unfair advantage.........
Seriously, someone working in education should be aware that music, especially singing, is one of the few cerebral activities which engage both sides of the brain.
Heaven help us all if OP gets wind of action songs....

Love this!

twoshedsjackson · 01/12/2024 23:48

Hoist by my own petard!
Acronym, not anagram!

RafaistheKingofClay · 01/12/2024 23:47

LynetteScavo · 01/12/2024 23:41

Oh blimey, the next thing you know the teacher will get out their guitar! You really should raise this with the HT before things get out of hand.

And I very much hope no child is ever given a sticker in KS2! You need to watch out for that OP.

Oh no, not the guitar.

twoshedsjackson · 01/12/2024 23:47

At the last school in my long career, the staff held an informal award ceremony after the pupils were safely dismissed at lunchtime on the last day of term.
One coveted trophy was "The COTY Cup", a fine pink bone china cup and saucer with gold lettering, COTY being an anagram for "Complaint of the Year", where the merits of instances of monumental nitpicking were forwarded, seconded and put to the vote. A running record was kept though the school year, and documentary evidence gave valuable supporting evidence, thus I would urge you most earnestly to put this in writing; extra points were awarded for solecisms of grammar and spellings.
When class rolls were assigned, it was generally considered that having certain parents in your contact list gave you an unfair advantage.........
Seriously, someone working in education should be aware that music, especially singing, is one of the few cerebral activities which engage both sides of the brain.
Heaven help us all if OP gets wind of action songs....

ILoveVeg · 01/12/2024 23:43

"I would of thought"........

Naturally you expect your child to develop a good knowledge of English grammar.......

SeaUrchinHat · 01/12/2024 23:43

OP. A university lecturer you say? Busy doing your job to a high standard? I doubt it, because otherwise you wouldn’t have time for trivial nonsense like this. Perhaps you work at the high-ranking university my DD has just graduated from, where the standard of staff was worse than terrible and absolutely not worth four years of tuition fees. But yeah, you just carry on whinging about songs and bloody book Advents and teachers who are making an effort to support their pupils.

LynetteScavo · 01/12/2024 23:41

Oh blimey, the next thing you know the teacher will get out their guitar! You really should raise this with the HT before things get out of hand.

And I very much hope no child is ever given a sticker in KS2! You need to watch out for that OP.

WrongWrongWrongAgain · 01/12/2024 23:40

Arseynal · 01/12/2024 23:37

YANBU OP. There is a checkout operator in my Lidl who sings incessantly and although he’s actually very nice and helpful it is behaviour that should have been nipped in the bud at six, and he’s 30 if he’s a day. Singing is for toddlers and babies. Not adults and certainly not big boys and girls of 7. Especially during the working day when they should either be working quietly at their desks or engaged in the Teams meetings. Idk what book advent is but there is no need for books for children of 7 years old. They have done their phonics so why are they doing an activity with books??

You bugger. You nearly had me!

ilovesushi · 01/12/2024 23:39

I still don't know what a book advent is. It sounds like something I might like though. Can anyone shed any light? I could start tomorrow just one day late.

Arseynal · 01/12/2024 23:37

YANBU OP. There is a checkout operator in my Lidl who sings incessantly and although he’s actually very nice and helpful it is behaviour that should have been nipped in the bud at six, and he’s 30 if he’s a day. Singing is for toddlers and babies. Not adults and certainly not big boys and girls of 7. Especially during the working day when they should either be working quietly at their desks or engaged in the Teams meetings. Idk what book advent is but there is no need for books for children of 7 years old. They have done their phonics so why are they doing an activity with books??

JingleB · 01/12/2024 23:33

@WearyAuldWumman - that’s a great book!

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/12/2024 23:32

Someonehelpmeagain · 01/12/2024 22:41

I didn't realise you have to work at your child's school to be allowed the right to complain.

I don't even know what a book advent is but it's got "book" in the title so sounds like a good thing.

Do you just object to the teacher doing something frivolous, like singing, with small children? An average class of 7/8 year olds will cover a range of abilities and aptitudes, some may still struggle to sit and concentrate for long. I can remember learning times table songs - great fun.